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Postby Minoa » Wed Oct 11, 2017 7:55 am

Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41586442 and https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-41578997

There has been a massive fallout over allegations about film producer Harvey Weinstein. A number of high-profile actresses have come forward with evidence that Weinstein had committed sexual assault and harassment. Consequently, his wife Georgina Chapman is leaving him. Not only that, but his film company has fired him, and BAFTA has suspended his membership.

I think this is a very serious betrayal of trust that could have massive repercussions on Hollywood, in a similar way to how Jimmy Savile, Rolf Harris and Stuart Hall betrayed the trust of the BBC with their sexual assault shenanigans, and the BBC had to take as much the blame as Savile, Harris and Hall.

What are your observations on this major Hollywood controversy?
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:02 am

A rich and powerful man has been sexually harassing people for years and getting away with it because of his wealth and power? No doubt human society will be shaken to its very foundations.
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Postby Dooom35796821595 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:36 am

Ifreann wrote:A rich and powerful man has been sexually harassing people for years and getting away with it because of his wealth and power? No doubt human society will be shaken to its very foundations.


Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!
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Postby The Novakian Empire » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:58 am

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Ifreann wrote:A rich and powerful man has been sexually harassing people for years and getting away with it because of his wealth and power? No doubt human society will be shaken to its very foundations.


Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!

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Postby The Novakian Empire » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:01 am

Why are there so many bills that sexually harass people?
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Postby MERIZoC » Wed Oct 11, 2017 10:17 am

I think this is a very serious betrayal of trust that could have massive repercussions on Hollywood


lol are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.

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Postby Topoliani » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:08 am

The Novakian Empire wrote:Why are there so many bills that sexually harass people?

I don't know, but I guess I better keep my eyes on Bill Gates and Bill Nye
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:13 am

MERIZoC wrote:
I think this is a very serious betrayal of trust that could have massive repercussions on Hollywood


lol are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.

Well generally speaking most major businesses will try to make it hush hush so not to screw them over.
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Postby The Parkus Empire » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:27 am

Polanski still does alright and a lot of celebrities still love him, so I don't think much will come of it in the long run.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:29 am

Gig em Aggies wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:
lol are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.

Well generally speaking most major businesses will try to make it hush hush so not to screw them over.

You kind of expect the businesses to coverify up. Nbc, the ny times, and the Manhattan DA's office otoh, not so much.

Harvey needs to go to jail.
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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:42 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Gig em Aggies wrote:Well generally speaking most major businesses will try to make it hush hush so not to screw them over.

You kind of expect the businesses to coverify up. Nbc, the ny times, and the Manhattan DA's office otoh, not so much.

Harvey needs to go to jail.

Most likely scenario is he will go to jail for a few months if not a couple of years then get out on probatio/parole and be required community service or classes to avoid further time or even a massive fine all together to avoid jail
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Postby Hirota » Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:48 am

MERIZoC wrote:
I think this is a very serious betrayal of trust that could have massive repercussions on Hollywood


lol are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.
It's not just Hollywood. The screenjunkies exec was sacked this week for similar allegations. Joss whedon was embarrassed over some revelations over his private life +albeit not to the same scale).

I did like how several prominent actors and actresses are coming out saying they heard the rumours, but still was happy to go along with working with him and appearing with him. Take Lena Dunham for example, outspoken feminist, heard the rumours about weinstein,but put it all to one side for "the greater good."

Makes you wonder how many of these virtue signallers are either complete douchebags, or complicit in their douchebaggery.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:50 pm

Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A rich and powerful man has been sexually harassing people for years and getting away with it because of his wealth and power? No doubt human society will be shaken to its very foundations.


Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!


Honestly, which Bill?

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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:52 pm

The Parkus Empire wrote:Polanski still does alright and a lot of celebrities still love him, so I don't think much will come of it in the long run.


And Polanski, well, with him it was basically proven he was a sex offender and bad, bad man, not just allegations. That said, I do believe Harvey Weinstein did the things he was accused of.

And for all you Bojack fans, Weinstein here reminds me of Hank Hippopopolous.

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Postby Albrenia » Wed Oct 11, 2017 12:55 pm

From what I've seen, Mr. Weinstein is a creep and I hope he pays for what he's done with some serious jail time and losing his fortune.

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The Novakian Empire wrote:Why are there so many bills that sexually harass people?

Billy Carter only liked beer.
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MERIZoC wrote:LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.


I've always heard that Hollywood is a nest of demons. There is no virtue, no moderation, no humility, and no restraint in Hollywood.

Hugh Heffner finally taking his throne in Hell- and the gratuituous salutes and adoration he got -is just one example of the perverts and twisted men they idolize. That whole "Pizza Gate" conspiracy theory has legs, given Hollywood's tendancy to decadence going back a hundred years. Given their full-throated worship of sexual depravity of all types off-screen, I doubt Weinstein will be the last.

Thank God they had enough honor intact to immediately dismiss him. Unlike Bill O'Reily being drummed out for allegedly saying "MMM DAZ SUM HAWT CHOCK-O-LOT" to a black employee, we have actual evidence that these accusations happened, and proof of actual crimes on Winstein's part. It's funny the guy was a major power player for Hillary. He and Bill must have had a great time.

This said, Weinstein is innocent until proven guilty.
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United States of Red Dawn wrote:
The Novakian Empire wrote:Why are there so many bills that sexually harass people?

Billy Carter only liked beer.


Billy Carter was a good dude.

Billy Clinton, Cosby, O'Reilly, Maher, well, not so much...

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TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.


I've always heard that Hollywood is a nest of demons. There is no virtue, no moderation, no humility, and no restraint in Hollywood.

Hugh Heffner finally taking his throne in Hell- and the gratuituous salutes and adoration he got -is just one example of the perverts and twisted men they idolize. That whole "Pizza Gate" conspiracy theory has legs, given Hollywood's tendancy to decadence going back a hundred years. Given their full-throated worship of sexual depravity of all types off-screen, I doubt Weinstein will be the last.

Thank God they had enough honor intact to immediately dismiss him. Unlike Bill O'Reily being drummed out for allegedly saying "MMM DAZ SUM HAWT CHOCK-O-LOT" to a black employee, we have actual evidence that these accusations happened, and proof of actual crimes on Winstein's part. It's funny the guy was a major power player for Hillary. He and Bill must have had a great time.

This said, Weinstein is innocent until proven guilty.

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Major-Tom wrote:
United States of Red Dawn wrote:Billy Carter only liked beer.


Billy Carter was a good dude.

Billy Clinton, Cosby, O'Reilly, Maher, well, not so much...

Ugh, thanks for reminding me that guy is still a thing. :/
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:58 pm

TURTLESHROOM II wrote:
MERIZoC wrote:LOL are you kidding me? This isn't a betrayal of anyone's trust, Hollywood actively protects this kind of activity, and Weinstein is far from the only one.


I've always heard that Hollywood is a nest of demons. There is no virtue, no moderation, no humility, and no restraint in Hollywood.

Hugh Heffner finally taking his throne in Hell- and the gratuituous salutes and adoration he got -is just one example of the perverts and twisted men they idolize. That whole "Pizza Gate" conspiracy theory has legs, given Hollywood's tendancy to decadence going back a hundred years. Given their full-throated worship of sexual depravity of all types off-screen, I doubt Weinstein will be the last.

Thank God they had enough honor intact to immediately dismiss him. Unlike Bill O'Reily being drummed out for allegedly saying "MMM DAZ SUM HAWT CHOCK-O-LOT" to a black employee, we have actual evidence that these accusations happened, and proof of actual crimes on Winstein's part. It's funny the guy was a major power player for Hillary. He and Bill must have had a great time.

This said, Weinstein is innocent until proven guilty.


He has admitted to enough criminal activity to put him in jaIL for quite some time. He only denys the rape, and what he has admitted to qualities as rape in new york.
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Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Ifreann wrote:A rich and powerful man has been sexually harassing people for years and getting away with it because of his wealth and power? No doubt human society will be shaken to its very foundations.


Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!


Clinton? Cosby? O'Reilly? You really should be more specific with your Bills :P


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Billy Carter was a good dude.

Billy Clinton, Cosby, O'Reilly, Maher, well, not so much...


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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Oct 11, 2017 2:47 pm

Shofercia wrote:
Dooom35796821595 wrote:
Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!


Clinton? Cosby? O'Reilly? You really should be more specific with your Bills :P


Thermodolia wrote:I thought he meant Bill Clinton


I thought so too.


Major-Tom wrote:
Billy Carter was a good dude.

Billy Clinton, Cosby, O'Reilly, Maher, well, not so much...


What did Bill Maher do?


He's been accused of similar shit - but really, he's just an arrogant asshole. I agree with him on about everything, and I still dislike him.

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Postby Gig em Aggies » Wed Oct 11, 2017 3:06 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
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Somebody call Bill, he'll know what to do!


Honestly, which Bill?


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