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by Sleet Clans » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:09 am
by Novaya Equestria » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:16 am
The Selkie wrote:Statement of this thread's OP
Alright, people,
take a big step back for a second and calm down, okay?
I thank Zarkenis Ultima for his (her?) time and effort in trying to calm things down around these parts, it was very much needed. I must also apologise for my own absence, I was sleeping and after that, working.
So, regarding Rustyal and Caty...
Yes, I allowed Caty after debating it with Rustyal and thinking about it. Yes, she is unrealistic, far too expensive and rather limited, as the nice people at Your Nation's Warships pointed out, but I would like to remind you, that this is NS. Defying physics? I'm no Naval Engineer and I doubt, that any of you are. Regardless of that, there are measures in place to keep her usage limited and I accepted her under these limitations.
Yes, Rustyal is my Co-OP, because he is an active and constructive player of this RP. Until those against him in that position present a clear and well-founded set of arguments against this appointment, on this thread, that will not change. And if they do, these arguments will be reviewed and discussed in a civilized manner and acted upon accordingly. Until that, he is Co-OP - and that position has nothing to do with his characters.
Now comes the uncomfortable part: Kollin, your application for joining this RP is denied, on the grounds of your behaviour on this OOC. I actually would very much appreciate, if you were to leave this thread altogether. To quote the rules: "Be nice, at least on this OOC."
Legatia and North Arkana, agree, that you disagree, and leave it at that. End of discussion. If not, bans from this RP and retcons. Clear?
Rustyal, Sterkistan, Novaya Equestria, I very much appreciate, that you tried to calm everyone down or left the discussions themselves. Thank you. (That is actually not uncomfortable, but you get, what I mean, I hope. ; ))
For those, who wish to discuss the realism of KanColle, please do so elsewhere.
So, with that being done, I hope, that we can get back to the fun part of this RP - namely RPing itself. Is everybody onboard with that?
(Did I miss anything?)
by Higher Japan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:18 am
NOTICE: As of 14/10, the empress has officially been granted greater control of the government, including military and financial sectors. That is all, have a good day.
by The Selkie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:28 am
Sleet Clans wrote:Hopefully it's not too late for me to join this?
Novaya Equestria wrote:Thanks, Selks. In fact, I contacted one of the mods about this situation.
And yes, you missed something. Novaya told everyone about the perks of a qualified leader: competent, level headed, good leadership, one who knows the strategies and tactics and do's and don't's, and the ability to adapt to any circumstances and to have the plans ready should circumstances happened. After that, the four Novayan warships left: Novaya and Chrysantheme to do their night patrol, and Shinosaki and Shiroiyuki to head to their respective rooms.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:41 am
Technical Data
Displacement: 3,700 tons full load
Length (overall): 420 ft
Width: 40 ft
Draught: 15 ft
Propulsion: 2-shaft steam turbines, 60,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots
Complement: 360
Armament:8 (4 dual) 5 inch guns
Armour: Armor? They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis-
16 (4 quad-mounted) 40mm Bofors autocannons
12 (12 single) 20mm Oerlikon autocannons
6 K-gun depth charge launchers
2 depth charge racks
10 (2 quintuple mounts) 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes
Notes:
by The Selkie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:32 am
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:dID SOMEBODY SAY SHIP-RACISTS?Personnel file - Operational Sector Wide Sea - South West
Name: C.S.S. Thomas Jefferson Page
Type: Destroyer
Class: Charles Read-class
Role: "Blockade-breaker" multirole destroyer
Nation of origin: Confederate States of America
Year commissioned: 1943
Image or description of the ship girl/boy: Smol yeoman farmer
Gender: Female
Character: "Long Tom" is a good-natured little girl who likes gardening. She idolizes the namesake of her namesake, Thomas Jefferson. Always excited to be deployed, she loves to take risks and get her adrenaline pumping. She does tend to get a bit carried away.
Special abilities: She can fire just as many 5-inch shells retreating as she can when advancing.
Technical Description of the vessel: the Charles Read-class was born from the Confederacy's long experiences in dealing with blockades, back to the American Brothers' War of the early 1860s. Destroyers had proven vital in protecting trade in both the 1st and 2nd World Wars. However, the previous Buchanan-class destroyers, which were exceedingly capable multirole ships, were considered too small to punch above their weight. The Charles Read-class, developed alongside the United States' less-armed but lighter and faster Allen M. Summer-class, was meant to rectify that. Something of an experiment in the Confederate destroyer fleet, the Charles Read-class was equipped with 4 twin 5-inch gun turrets, two on the bow, and two on the stern, with the idea being that as the destroyer was both approaching and fleeing from an enemy surface vessel she would be able to fire a large salvo. She was only 2 knots slower than the Allen M. Summer-class, 36 were completed before being superseded by the similar but more compact, faster, and lighter Wilkinson-class in late 1944.
C.S.S. Thomas Jefferson Page was the third vessel of the Charles Read-class constructed, built in Norfolk Naval Yard and commissioned in 1943. She went off to Europe where she would serve until the end of the war. However, in early 1945, the "Long Tom" and one of her sister ships found themselves facing off against 5 German U-boats fleeing from a sub pen. The cat-and-mouse game lasted 2 and a half whole days, with 2 of the U-boats being found and sunk, before one U-boat surfaced, torpedoed the Charles Read-class alongside the Page, and attempted to flee before being disabled by a salvo of fire from the Page. The final U-boat, running on fumes at that point, surfaced to surrender and assist in picking up survivors. Only 10 Confederate sailors perished. Both ships were decorated after the battle by both the Confederate government and the states.
The Thomas Jefferson Page remained in Europe after Germany surrendered, helping supervise the surrender of remaining Kriegsmarine vessels before being re-stationed with the Caribbean Fleet in 1948. After several refits, several patrols, and brief spurts of action providing naval fire support in anti-Communist interventions in the Caribbean, she was decommissioned in 1976.Technical Data
Displacement: 3,700 tons full load
Length (overall): 420 ft
Width: 40 ft
Draught: 15 ft
Propulsion: 2-shaft steam turbines, 60,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots
Complement: 360
Armament:8 (4 dual) 5 inch guns
Armour: Armor? They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis-
16 (4 quad-mounted) 40mm Bofors autocannons
12 (12 single) 20mm Oerlikon autocannons
6 K-gun depth charge launchers
2 depth charge racks
10 (2 quintuple mounts) 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes
Notes:
OOC-section:
RP-sample: I mean I'm in the RP.
Have you read and understood the rules? Anchors Aweigh but it's a Rebel Yell
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Sat Oct 07, 2017 11:37 am
The Selkie wrote:Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:dID SOMEBODY SAY SHIP-RACISTS?Personnel file - Operational Sector Wide Sea - South West
Name: C.S.S. Thomas Jefferson Page
Type: Destroyer
Class: Charles Read-class
Role: "Blockade-breaker" multirole destroyer
Nation of origin: Confederate States of America
Year commissioned: 1943
Image or description of the ship girl/boy: Smol yeoman farmer
Gender: Female
Character: "Long Tom" is a good-natured little girl who likes gardening. She idolizes the namesake of her namesake, Thomas Jefferson. Always excited to be deployed, she loves to take risks and get her adrenaline pumping. She does tend to get a bit carried away.
Special abilities: She can fire just as many 5-inch shells retreating as she can when advancing.
Technical Description of the vessel: the Charles Read-class was born from the Confederacy's long experiences in dealing with blockades, back to the American Brothers' War of the early 1860s. Destroyers had proven vital in protecting trade in both the 1st and 2nd World Wars. However, the previous Buchanan-class destroyers, which were exceedingly capable multirole ships, were considered too small to punch above their weight. The Charles Read-class, developed alongside the United States' less-armed but lighter and faster Allen M. Summer-class, was meant to rectify that. Something of an experiment in the Confederate destroyer fleet, the Charles Read-class was equipped with 4 twin 5-inch gun turrets, two on the bow, and two on the stern, with the idea being that as the destroyer was both approaching and fleeing from an enemy surface vessel she would be able to fire a large salvo. She was only 2 knots slower than the Allen M. Summer-class, 36 were completed before being superseded by the similar but more compact, faster, and lighter Wilkinson-class in late 1944.
C.S.S. Thomas Jefferson Page was the third vessel of the Charles Read-class constructed, built in Norfolk Naval Yard and commissioned in 1943. She went off to Europe where she would serve until the end of the war. However, in early 1945, the "Long Tom" and one of her sister ships found themselves facing off against 5 German U-boats fleeing from a sub pen. The cat-and-mouse game lasted 2 and a half whole days, with 2 of the U-boats being found and sunk, before one U-boat surfaced, torpedoed the Charles Read-class alongside the Page, and attempted to flee before being disabled by a salvo of fire from the Page. The final U-boat, running on fumes at that point, surfaced to surrender and assist in picking up survivors. Only 10 Confederate sailors perished. Both ships were decorated after the battle by both the Confederate government and the states.
The Thomas Jefferson Page remained in Europe after Germany surrendered, helping supervise the surrender of remaining Kriegsmarine vessels before being re-stationed with the Caribbean Fleet in 1948. After several refits, several patrols, and brief spurts of action providing naval fire support in anti-Communist interventions in the Caribbean, she was decommissioned in 1976.Technical Data
Displacement: 3,700 tons full load
Length (overall): 420 ft
Width: 40 ft
Draught: 15 ft
Propulsion: 2-shaft steam turbines, 60,000 shp
Speed: 32 knots
Complement: 360
Armament:8 (4 dual) 5 inch guns
Armour: Armor? They couldn't hit an elephant at this dis-
16 (4 quad-mounted) 40mm Bofors autocannons
12 (12 single) 20mm Oerlikon autocannons
6 K-gun depth charge launchers
2 depth charge racks
10 (2 quintuple mounts) 21 in (533 mm) torpedo tubes
Notes:
OOC-section:
RP-sample: I mean I'm in the RP.
Have you read and understood the rules? Anchors Aweigh but it's a Rebel Yell
TJP is accepted - Legate is yours as well, if I remember correctly, but from a different nation of origin. Not that that's a problem, but where does that come from?
by The Selkie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:24 pm
Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:The Selkie wrote:
TJP is accepted - Legate is yours as well, if I remember correctly, but from a different nation of origin. Not that that's a problem, but where does that come from?
Legate is from my NS nation's lore
TJP is from another lore with a victorious Confederacy in the Civil War.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by North Arkana » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:25 pm
by The Selkie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:47 pm
North Arkana wrote:How far out to see are the Novayan ships? Because if they're out of artillery range, but still within radio range, then Horizon, who is outside, would be able to hear the gunfire in the distance.
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by North Arkana » Sat Oct 07, 2017 1:51 pm
The Selkie wrote:North Arkana wrote:How far out to see are the Novayan ships? Because if they're out of artillery range, but still within radio range, then Horizon, who is outside, would be able to hear the gunfire in the distance.
Uhm... you are aware, that radio range isn't the same range as hearing range, right?
To answer the question, let's say several hundred kilometres - far out of hearing range. The patrol is set to take a while, after all.
by The Selkie » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:02 pm
North Arkana wrote:The Selkie wrote:
Uhm... you are aware, that radio range isn't the same range as hearing range, right?
To answer the question, let's say several hundred kilometres - far out of hearing range. The patrol is set to take a while, after all.
Radio range is to the horizon without atmospheric bounce, while sound carries much farther. If you're within radio contact, there's either a very powerful transmitter on one of the ships showing over the horizon, a relay station between the patrol and the base, or they aren't out of radio range yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation
I play PT, MT and a bit FT. I am into character-RPs.
by North Arkana » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:17 pm
The Selkie wrote:North Arkana wrote:Radio range is to the horizon without atmospheric bounce, while sound carries much farther. If you're within radio contact, there's either a very powerful transmitter on one of the ships showing over the horizon, a relay station between the patrol and the base, or they aren't out of radio range yet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-of-sight_propagation
Alright, although atmospheric bouncing of the signal would be a possibility (relays wouldn't, as there aren't any relays (so far)), go for it. Remember, though, that it is night (NE's ships are on night patrol, after all) and that Horizon would either be sailing alone or with Leopard as a sole escort if she doesn't wait for the group of ships talked to by Rhi to be scrambled.
by New Antonalia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:31 pm
by Sterkistan » Sat Oct 07, 2017 3:01 pm
New Antonalia wrote:Ok, I'll try to get a post up after work. Would anyone mind catching me up to speed until then?
by Kraicia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:18 pm
New Antonalia wrote:Ok, I'll try to get a post up after work. Would anyone mind catching me up to speed until then?
by Parcia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:21 pm
by Kraicia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:22 pm
Parcia wrote:Roster of this night patrol?
by Parcia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:29 pm
by North Arkana » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:33 pm
by Sleet Clans » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:39 pm
Technical Data
Displacement: 1,620 tons surfaced, 2,540 tons submerged
Length (overall): 314 ft
Width: 29 ft
Draught: 15 ft 9 inches
Propulsion: 2 shafts. 4x diesel engines, x2 122 cell batteries, x4 electric motors. (5,800 shp surfaced, 2,700 shp submerged)
Speed: 21 knots surfaced, 11 knots submerged
Complement: 84 officers and enlisted men
Armament:
8x 533mm torpedo tubes (6 forward, 2 aft)
1x 5-inch deck gun
1x 40mm Bofors
1x 20mm Oerlikon
Armour:
15mm conning tower
20mm belt
5mm deck
Notes: Unusually lucky in sneaking around, survived the war and was scrapped in 1970. Nicknamed 'Nevi'
by Novaya Equestria » Sat Oct 07, 2017 7:44 pm
Parcia wrote:Roster of this night patrol?
by Parcia » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:18 pm
by North Arkana » Sat Oct 07, 2017 8:20 pm
Technical Data
Displacement: 2100 tonnes surfaces, 2700 tonnes submerged
Length (overall): 92 meters
Width: 8.2 meters
Draught: 5.2 meters
Propulsion:3 Naval Technical Institute diesel engines, 3730 kW (5000 shp) each
Speed: 20 knots surfaced, 25 knots submerged
2 NTI electric motors, 3730 kW (5000 shp) each
4 144 cell batteries
2 shafts
shrouded propellers
Endurance: 2 hours at 15 knots submerged
Maximum Depth: 240 meters
Complement: 85
Armament: 8 x 572mm torpedo tubes (533mm torpedo compatible) (6 forward, 2 aft)
Armour: none
Notes:Pressure hull capable of resisting HMGs and non-AP autocannon fire
Equipped with passive and active sonar systems
Equipped with air and surface tracking radar systems
Equipped with anechoic tiles
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