by United Islamic Commonwealth » Wed Sep 20, 2017 12:36 pm
by Farnhamia » Wed Sep 20, 2017 1:11 pm
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, are slurs actionable or no? I've seen several contradictory rulings such as "muzzies" and "nigger" being ruled as allowed, but "khafir" was recently disallowed when it was not being used malevolently. I don't mean to question the mods or post in bad faith, I would just like some clarification on the matter for future reference.
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 22, 2017 6:50 am
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, are slurs actionable or no? I've seen several contradictory rulings such as "muzzies" and "nigger" being ruled as allowed, but "khafir" was recently disallowed when it was not being used malevolently. I don't mean to question the mods or post in bad faith, I would just like some clarification on the matter for future reference.
by United Islamic Commonwealth » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:30 pm
by Frisbeeteria » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:41 pm
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:It's the intention and way it is used.
by United Islamic Commonwealth » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:49 pm
Frisbeeteria wrote:United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:It's the intention and way it is used.
That's true of every moderator ruling. We don't have a list of forbidden words per se, but obvious examples such as slang terms for blacks, Jews, and Muslims (among others) will quickly get noticed. If they are used in a derogatory manner, it's highly likely to be reported and acted upon.
I'm sure it's possible to use virtually any offensive word in a way that disarms its power. George Carlin did it in the 70s with his "words you can't use on TV". Hell, damn, ass, bitch, and bastard have all lost most of their power just in the last few decades. I'm sure the upcoming decades will bring new terms to the forefront. In the meantime, it's going to be a judgement call every time.
by The Kiyaku » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:51 pm
by Katganistan » Fri Sep 22, 2017 4:57 pm
by USS Monitor » Fri Sep 22, 2017 8:59 pm
United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Frisbeeteria wrote:That's true of every moderator ruling. We don't have a list of forbidden words per se, but obvious examples such as slang terms for blacks, Jews, and Muslims (among others) will quickly get noticed. If they are used in a derogatory manner, it's highly likely to be reported and acted upon.
I'm sure it's possible to use virtually any offensive word in a way that disarms its power. George Carlin did it in the 70s with his "words you can't use on TV". Hell, damn, ass, bitch, and bastard have all lost most of their power just in the last few decades. I'm sure the upcoming decades will bring new terms to the forefront. In the meantime, it's going to be a judgement call every time.
So, when an anti-Islam region who states their mission is to crush Islam uses the term "muzzies" to refer to us, it is not actionable, but when a Muslim uses the term "khafir" he gets a warning? Would it be better if he had said unbeliever or infidel, despite it being an almost literal translation?
by United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Sep 23, 2017 8:53 am
USS Monitor wrote:United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:So, when an anti-Islam region who states their mission is to crush Islam uses the term "muzzies" to refer to us, it is not actionable, but when a Muslim uses the term "khafir" he gets a warning? Would it be better if he had said unbeliever or infidel, despite it being an almost literal translation?
It's different contexts -- GP vs. NSG. Posturing for regional politics or R/D purposes gets a little more slack than a purely OOC post in NSG would.
by USS Monitor » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:24 am
So, it is alright if I were to go into GP and begin calling people khafir with malicious intent (as the above example was using muzzie) but if I use it in NSG using its literal meaning, I can get a warning?
by United Islamic Commonwealth » Sat Sep 23, 2017 9:32 am
USS Monitor wrote:United Islamic Commonwealth wrote:Isn't GP purely OOC, though?
It often blurs the line between IC and OOC.So, it is alright if I were to go into GP and begin calling people khafir with malicious intent (as the above example was using muzzie) but if I use it in NSG using its literal meaning, I can get a warning?
I don't recommend it. Did you miss the part where the guy using "muzzies" got an unofficial warning?
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