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by Hurdergaryp » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:32 am
by Bakery Hill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:59 am
by Sovaal » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:01 am
by Ifreann » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:47 am
Ifreann wrote:So what happens when people want to reverse their sterilisation?
Bakery Hill wrote:She thinks drug addicts should be treated like animals. She's the scum of the Earth."We don’t allow dogs to breed. We spay them. We neuter them. We try to keep them from having unwanted puppies, and yet these women are literally having litters of children. Well, you know my son that goes to Stanford said ‘mom, please don’t ever say that again, but it’s the truth, they don’t just have one and two babies, they have litters."
by Genivaria » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:12 am
by Gauthier » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:47 am
by Taostic Aesthetics » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:58 am
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:11 am
Bombadil wrote:Frankly I think it's awful to give an addict $300 in return for neutering them, of course an addict will take it. Why not get a kidney while you're at it.. let them all go to Candy Mountain..
AiliailiA wrote:That's fucked. Sterilization is essentially permanent: reversal operations, besides being expensive, usually fail. Just because you're a drug addict now, by the loose definition "need money for drugs that bad", doesn't mean you'll always be a drug addict and therefore not capable of raising kids properly.
Gauthier wrote:I notice that pro-lifers that would throw a fit over contraceptive distribution are distinctly cricket chirp silent on sterilization.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Bakery Hill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:46 am
Gauthier wrote:I notice that pro-lifers that would throw a fit over contraceptive distribution are distinctly cricket chirp silent on sterilization.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:59 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Gauthier » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:04 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Also, why doesn't Gauthier specify what he or she thinks it's about?
by Hurdergaryp » Wed Aug 09, 2017 1:16 pm
Gauthier wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Also, why doesn't Gauthier specify what he or she thinks it's about?
Probably because people assume sterilization will be mostly focused on the underclass, which pro-lifers generally don't give a shit about unless they're trying to get an abortion. I think it's a general fetus fetish.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:19 pm
Bombadil wrote:What we should be doing is giving more drugs to these people and ensuring they breed to drive immunity to addiction..
Male rats exposed to cocaine may pass epigenetic changes on to their male offspring, thereby altering the next generation's response to the drug. Researchers found that male offspring in particular responded much less to the drug's influence
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2 ... 131439.htm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Genivaria » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:21 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Bombadil wrote:Frankly I think it's awful to give an addict $300 in return for neutering them, of course an addict will take it. Why not get a kidney while you're at it.. let them all go to Candy Mountain..
It will clean up the gene pool without resorting to coercion to do so. What's the problem?
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:26 pm
Bakery Hill wrote:She thinks drug addicts should be treated like animals. She's the scum of the Earth."We don’t allow dogs to breed. We spay them. We neuter them. We try to keep them from having unwanted puppies, and yet these women are literally having litters of children. Well, you know my son that goes to Stanford said ‘mom, please don’t ever say that again, but it’s the truth, they don’t just have one and two babies, they have litters."
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Victores » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:31 pm
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:32 pm
Caracasus wrote:Ahh yes, the old crack baby myth and associated moralising raising its head again. I notice that a lot of people stopped giving a shit about that when it turned out that a lot of the damage done to children born of addicts was a) more to do with the material conditions they were raised in and b) about the same as tobacco and not as severe as alcohol.
"Opponents of the organization often argue that it should instead focus on addiction treatment or lobbying for government health care.[5] The organization responds by saying that they do not have the resources to solve "national problems of poverty, housing, nutrition, education and rehabilitation services. Those resources we do have are spent to prevent a problem for $300 rather than paying millions after it happens in cost to care for a potentially damaged child."[4] Weaning one opioid-addicted baby off drugs costs about $500,000.[8]\"
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:39 pm
Mattopilos II wrote:Free Maronites wrote:If more people stopped complaining about how this is a short term solution, or that Barbara Harris is some sort of monster, and actually tried to help reach a long term solution, maybe we'll all live in a better world.
Maybe.
Sounds handwavy and besides the point but okay.
I love how people think "At least she is doing something!" as a defense. It isn't. If I go out and shoot homeless people to "help them", at least I am doing something, yes?
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:46 pm
Gauthier wrote:I notice that pro-lifers that would throw a fit over contraceptive distribution are distinctly cricket chirp silent on sterilization.
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Ifreann » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:49 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:: eugenics :
by Ethel mermania » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:55 pm
by DnalweN acilbupeR » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:12 pm
The Emerald Dawn wrote:I award you no points, and have sent people to make sure your parents refrain from further breeding.
Lyttenburgh wrote:all this is a damning enough evidence to proove you of being an edgy butthurt 'murican teenager with the sole agenda of prooving to the uncaring bitch Web, that "You Have A Point!"
Lyttenburgh wrote:Either that, or, you were gang-raped by commi-nazi russian Spetznaz kill team, who then painted all walls in your house in hammer and sickles, and then viped their asses with the stars and stripes banner in your yard. That's the only logical explanation.
by Bakery Hill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:43 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Bakery Hill wrote:She thinks drug addicts should be treated like animals. She's the scum of the Earth.
Said son is if I'm not mistaken one of the 4 children she adopted from the same drug addicted mother.
I hold the view that obsessing over whether or not your children are biologically yours is dumb and primitive. There are plenty of children out there who need homes, which this woman has proven by adopting 4 of them, and I think we can all agree they're better off with an actual family rather than being cared for by the state.
I might not agree with the rest of the statement but what she does is still right. Allegedly (and I don't have any reliable source for this) a large majority of her "clients" choose the IUD option over sterilization, and they get the same $300 only in smaller increments.
If she was really this evil person out to enforce : eugenics : to get rid of black people, drug addicts or the poor or whatever, she wouldn't have offered alternatives to sterilization in the first place, or at least wouldn't have offered the same amount of money.
In any case she is doing more than you probably are so maybe you should look at yourself before calling her the "scum of the earth".
EDIT: As another poster has noted, whining about how this is a "band-aid" instead of a long-term or more comprehensive solution to the problems related to drug addiction, is dumb. This charity is not the US government.
by Bakery Hill » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:55 pm
DnalweN acilbupeR wrote:Ifreann wrote:What are the colons meant to convey here?
I'm secretly an alt-right antijew bowing to our Lord and Savior, Kek and those were used as substitutes for triple parantheses, you caught me red-handed
They're used to symbolize a stereotype, like for example how one might respond to a picture containing imagery perceived as stereotypically American with " 'merica.jpg " . The colons are like the .jpg . Used either in an ironic fashion or to actually show you agree with the stereotype, although I haven't seen them used too much.
In this particular instance it was meant to ridicule people so easily equating sterilization with eugenics.
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