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by Khalisako » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:02 am
Gim wrote:Inzunza wrote:I'm told that sexual organs determines an individual's sex rather than gender, my source being my significant other who is almost always on Tumblr. Thus, human behavior shouldn't really define gender.
Men like competition; women like gossip. Clear distinction in human behaviour, I think.
Hurdergaryp wrote:Oh, Khalisako... my dear, precious little Khalisako...
sometimes I just want to grab you by the throat and choke you for a while,
but that would not be proper behaviour. It just wouldn't do.
by Neutraligon » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:11 am
by Dumb Ideologies » Fri Aug 04, 2017 1:59 am
Gim wrote:Inzunza wrote:I'm told that sexual organs determines an individual's sex rather than gender, my source being my significant other who is almost always on Tumblr. Thus, human behavior shouldn't really define gender.
Men like competition; women like gossip. Clear distinction in human behaviour, I think.
by Inzunza » Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:39 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Nah, because most people believe in this crud we just as a society create different gendered words to describe similar stuff. Doesn't actually reflect reality. When women are competing over something we call it a cat fight and when dudes gossip about each other we call it shit-talk and banter. Another obvious example is men's "gut feeling" versus "female intuition".
by The Florence Union » Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:02 am
Xaseqomehia wrote:Hope I could help shed a bit of convoluted light on the subject.
Grenartia wrote:8. Look, I don't give a shit if you're pro or anti trans, but that word is a slur on par with the word n*gger, and I will politely ask you only once to refrain from using it in this thread again.
Serrus wrote:About 8: Reporting now.
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by Nanatsu no Tsuki » Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:33 am
Salus Maior wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Considering this was discussing people who insist that trans individuals reveal they are trans on basically the first date, your point is kinda silly. Dating may be hard for cis-individuals, it can be deadly for those who are trans.
To be fair, it's a pretty important thing to know. I mean, what are you going to do, keep it secret until you're in bed? That's not going to go over well.
Would you rather find out that the person you've been dating hates trans-people months into seeing them? Is that fair to you? Is that fair to them?
Honestly, the best idea would simply to not date people you haven't gotten to know properly. Which is something I would say to anyone, sex traffickers are a thing, psychos are a thing.
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by Grenartia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:57 am
Salus Maior wrote:
1. This is kind of grave-digging but this is a rather demanding thing to ask of people. Dating isn't exactly an easy thing for cis-people either, running out a list of deal-breakers as a prelude to dating someone is a bit ridiculous.
2. Also, not a shitty dating policy if you want to have children.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 04, 2017 7:59 am
Grenartia wrote:Salus Maior wrote:
1. This is kind of grave-digging but this is a rather demanding thing to ask of people. Dating isn't exactly an easy thing for cis-people either, running out a list of deal-breakers as a prelude to dating someone is a bit ridiculous.
2. Also, not a shitty dating policy if you want to have children.
1. So, its 'too demanding' for us to want cis people to announce ahead of time that they're willing to kill us for being trans, but its a totally reasonable expectation for cis people to make us come out of the closet on the first date? How is that not a blatant fucking double standard?
2. Would you expect somebody who's infertile, for whatever reason, to announce it to their partner on the first date?
by Alvecia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:00 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Grenartia wrote:
1. So, its 'too demanding' for us to want cis people to announce ahead of time that they're willing to kill us for being trans, but its a totally reasonable expectation for cis people to make us come out of the closet on the first date? How is that not a blatant fucking double standard?
2. Would you expect somebody who's infertile, for whatever reason, to announce it to their partner on the first date?
2) Yes.
by Grenartia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:03 am
Salus Maior wrote:Neutraligon wrote:Considering this was discussing people who insist that trans individuals reveal they are trans on basically the first date, your point is kinda silly. Dating may be hard for cis-individuals, it can be deadly for those who are trans.
To be fair, it's a pretty important thing to know. 1. I mean, what are you going to do, keep it secret until you're in bed? That's not going to go over well.
2. Would you rather find out that the person you've been dating hates trans-people months into seeing them? Is that fair to you? Is that fair to them?
3. Honestly, the best idea would simply to not date people you haven't gotten to know properly. Which is something I would say to anyone, sex traffickers are a thing, psychos are a thing.
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:05 am
by Grenartia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:06 am
by Grenartia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:08 am
The Florence Union wrote:Xaseqomehia wrote:Hope I could help shed a bit of convoluted light on the subject.
Mucho gracious, much appreciated, my eyes have been opened.Grenartia wrote:8. Look, I don't give a shit if you're pro or anti trans, but that word is a slur on par with the word n*gger, and I will politely ask you only once to refrain from using it in this thread again.Serrus wrote:About 8: Reporting now.
My apologies, I was aware that there is some controversy surrounding the "T" word but I didn't think it was on par wit the n word. Seeing the unfavorable response to my using of the word I will refrain from using it on NS.
In other words, I am a godless communist so I am all for the transgender movement, I'm just uneducated.
My bad.
by Grenartia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:10 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Grenartia wrote:
1. So, its 'too demanding' for us to want cis people to announce ahead of time that they're willing to kill us for being trans, but its a totally reasonable expectation for cis people to make us come out of the closet on the first date? How is that not a blatant fucking double standard?
2. Would you expect somebody who's infertile, for whatever reason, to announce it to their partner on the first date?
2) Yes.
by The V O I D » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:10 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:11 am
by Alvecia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:12 am
by The V O I D » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:13 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:13 am
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:14 am
The V O I D wrote:United Muscovite Nations wrote:No, but I would certainly expect someone with an STD to bring it up.
Not revealing something that is an obvious dealbreaker until you've got the other person emotionally invested is manipulative.
Being trans is not an obvious dealbreaker. Not at all.
Just because it is for you doesn't mean that's the way it works for everyone.
by Alvecia » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:14 am
United Muscovite Nations wrote:The V O I D wrote:
Being trans is not an obvious dealbreaker. Not at all.
Just because it is for you doesn't mean that's the way it works for everyone.
It would be a potential dealbreaker for anyone who wants kids, or for the portion of the population that still disapproves of transsexuality religiously.
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Aug 04, 2017 8:15 am
Inzunza wrote:Fuck gender roles. I expect HER to pay for the first date's meal. >:C
United Muscovite Nations wrote:Grenartia wrote:
1. So, its 'too demanding' for us to want cis people to announce ahead of time that they're willing to kill us for being trans, but its a totally reasonable expectation for cis people to make us come out of the closet on the first date? How is that not a blatant fucking double standard?
2. Would you expect somebody who's infertile, for whatever reason, to announce it to their partner on the first date?
2) Yes.
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