A Statement from the New Pacific Order

[Pierconium]

A Statement from the New Pacific Order

As many already know, the Senate of the New Pacific Order issued orders for the nation United Arkadia to cease and desist all activities within the Foreign Affairs department several days ago. Around the same time, Pergamon stepped down as Consul of the Pacific. Both United Arkadia and Pergamon have served, and will continue to serve, the Pacific well. United Arkadia, while no longer involved in the Foreign Affairs Department has not been removed from the Order and will not be. Likewise, Pergamon remains in the Senate and will continue to do so, even if it is in a somewhat diminished capacity. While I have opted not to take the title of Consul, because quite frankly I'm tired, I will be carrying out the duties of the post for the foreseeable future. The reasons for these actions are primarily based upon the unauthorized claims of support for the oppositional movement that was developing within Lazarus last week. The Pacific has no interest in supporting a lost cause or opposing the will of a sitting Delegate, even if we find that nation's personal politics objectionable. That said, we maintain that our foreign affairs and diplomacy are our own and while we have taken steps that may seem to be appeasing to certain parties, it should be clear that we have done so solely based upon our own decision to do so. Any region that feels they can bully the Pacific with threats or alienation will find that we are not docile and will bite back.

Signed,
The Senate of the Pacific

[Cormactopia Prime]

Any region that feels they can bully the Pacific with threats or alienation will find that we are not docile and will bite back.

At which region(s) is this thinly veiled threat directed? Please don't insult my intelligence by saying it was a general statement.

[Altheriol]

Any region that feels they can bully the Pacific with threats or alienation will find that we are not docile and will bite back.

At which region(s) is this thinly veiled threat directed? Please don't insult my intelligence by saying it was a general statement.

There's a mirror in the toilets, Cormac.

[Pierconium]

Any region that feels they can bully the Pacific with threats or alienation will find that we are not docile and will bite back.

At which region(s) is this thinly veiled threat directed? Please don't insult my intelligence by saying it was a general statement.

It is directed at any region that believes they can dictate to the Pacific who we will align with politically or ideologically. Some nations, whether acting in an official capacity or not, took advantage of the recent turmoil and sought to demand certain actions from the NPO. This is simply an acknowledgement that such actions will not be tolerated. We seek friendly relations with all GCRs and we respect their right to conduct their diplomacy as they see fit. We expect the same courtesy in return.

[Cormactopia Prime]

At which region(s) is this thinly veiled threat directed? Please don't insult my intelligence by saying it was a general statement.

It is directed at any region that believes they can dictate to the Pacific who we will align with politically or ideologically. Some nations, whether acting in an official capacity or not, took advantage of the recent turmoil and sought to demand certain actions from the NPO.

Which nations were these and in which regions do they reside? That should give us a pretty clear picture of who you just blatantly threatened.

[Pierconium]

It is directed at any region that believes they can dictate to the Pacific who we will align with politically or ideologically. Some nations, whether acting in an official capacity or not, took advantage of the recent turmoil and sought to demand certain actions from the NPO.

Which nations were these and in which regions do they reside? That should give us a pretty clear picture of who you just blatantly threatened.

I'm sorry, have I missed something? Since when do I share private political information with you? I didn't 'threaten' anyone. Those that maybe thought they could tell us how to conduct our internal affairs are simply being informed that we will not be dictated to by anyone.

[The Church of Satan]

I don't believe it was intended to be a threat. This is just my interpretation and I of course do not speak for the NPO, but I think it is intended to mean they will defend themselves against any party attempting to strong-arm them into dictating their foreign policy.

[Pierconium]

I don't believe it was intended to be a threat. This is just my interpretation and I of course do not speak for the NPO, but I think it is intended to mean they will defend themselves against any party attempting to strong-arm them into dictating their foreign policy.

This is correct.

[Killer Kitty]

I don't believe it was intended to be a threat. This is just my interpretation and I of course do not speak for the NPO, but I think it is intended to mean they will defend themselves against any party attempting to strong-arm them into dictating their foreign policy.

I'd have to agree with the NPOs intention. We in Lazarus, whom TRR is currently attacking with military forces, would hope that all would understand the want of a legal government to defend themselves against outside parties attempting to dictate their freedoms to them.

[The Sygian]

It is a shame that Pergamon and Ark have not been expelled from the NPO for betraying the Order and acting extremely out of line the last few weeks, possibly even months.

Alas, I am sure you have your reasons Ivan. Best wishes to the NPO.

[The Church of Satan]

I won't sit here and threadjack the NPOs thread Evil Wolf. There are already four or five threads to talk about Funk's coup and you should apologize to them.

[Cormactopia Prime]

I don't believe it was intended to be a threat. This is just my interpretation and I of course do not speak for the NPO, but I think it is intended to mean they will defend themselves against any party attempting to strong-arm them into dictating their foreign policy.

This is correct.

Well, in that case, hopefully from now on the NPO will opt not to allow its officials to blatantly interfere in the affairs of other Feeders and Sinkers, and then no other regions or individuals will feel the need to pressure the NPO into doing what it should have done of its own accord.

[Killer Kitty]

I won't sit here and threadjack the NPOs thread Evil Wolf. There are already four or five threads to talk about Funk's coup and you should apologize to them.

They mentioned Lazarus first, not me, old chap. But a vailant effort to deflect from your sins.

[Funkadelia]

As much anyone will say about the NPO at one time or another, one must always appreciate their philosophical consistency.

[Foreign Policy Idealists]

I am disgusted by the actions of the NPO's Senate and their persistent use of the Delegate supremacy argument to justify their cowardice in refusing to adhere to the true ideals of Francoism and stand up for the noble ideals of sovereignty that they nominally stand for. The NPO's recent actions are not an example of principled action and magnanimity in the face of insidious efforts to establish a sort of Pacifican imperialism; rather, they are an example of pusillanimity and cowardice by remaining sheltered in the Pacific despite the noble efforts of those loyal Francoists that strive for the NPO to stand up for what it nominally believes in. By failing to abide by the tenets of their nominal ideology or even idly sit by and allow those true Francoists to take action, the Senate and Emperor have clearly cast their stock with those terrible forces that have no loyalty but to their own personal power. Morality and ideals are crucial if the NPO wishes to be a strong and active force in NationStates Gameplay, and I hope that the NPO may see the light or at the very least allow their citizens to protect the sovereignty of all GCRs.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

I am disgusted by the actions of the NPO's Senate and their persistent use of the Delegate supremacy argument to justify their cowardice in refusing to adhere to the true ideals of Francoism and stand up for the noble ideals of sovereignty that they nominally stand for. The NPO's recent actions are not an example of principled action and magnanimity in the face of insidious efforts to establish a sort of Pacifican imperialism; rather, they are an example of pusillanimity and cowardice by remaining sheltered in the Pacific despite the noble efforts of those loyal Francoists that strive for the NPO to stand up for what it nominally believes in. By failing to abide by the tenets of their nominal ideology or even idly sit by and allow those true Francoists to take action, the Senate and Emperor have clearly cast their stock with those terrible forces that have no loyalty but to their own personal power. Morality and ideals are crucial if the NPO wishes to be a strong and active force in NationStates Gameplay, and I hope that the NPO may see the light or at the very least allow their citizens to protect the sovereignty of all GCRs.

Francoism, ideals.... Cool. I wish the NPO did more with those that needed to be reprimanded. Tge NPO is more than Francoism. Spoken as a former citizen and low level groundpounder.

Francoism should die a death with ancient medical cures.

[BattleshipPacifica]

I am disgusted by the actions of the NPO's Senate and their persistent use of the Delegate supremacy argument to justify their cowardice in refusing to adhere to the true ideals of Francoism and stand up for the noble ideals of sovereignty that they nominally stand for. The NPO's recent actions are not an example of principled action and magnanimity in the face of insidious efforts to establish a sort of Pacifican imperialism; rather, they are an example of pusillanimity and cowardice by remaining sheltered in the Pacific despite the noble efforts of those loyal Francoists that strive for the NPO to stand up for what it nominally believes in. By failing to abide by the tenets of their nominal ideology or even idly sit by and allow those true Francoists to take action, the Senate and Emperor have clearly cast their stock with those terrible forces that have no loyalty but to their own personal power. Morality and ideals are crucial if the NPO wishes to be a strong and active force in NationStates Gameplay, and I hope that the NPO may see the light or at the very least allow their citizens to protect the sovereignty of all GCRs.

Francoism, ideals.... Cool. I wish the NPO did more with those that needed to be reprimanded. Tge NPO is more than Francoism. Spoken as a former citizen and low level groundpounder.

Francoism should die a death with ancient medical cures.

If you have no respect for the history and legacy of the NPO, you have no respect for the NPO at all. Sad to hear this from an ex-Pacifican.

[RiderSyl]

Attack of the smack-talking puppets!

[Saltmoras]

Attack of the smack-talking puppets!

Smack talking puppets?!?! Scandalous.

I'm glad the NPO said something about the situation at least. Other regions that just ignore things until they go away are boring.

[The NAtion OF Froggy]

Francoism, ideals.... Cool. I wish the NPO did more with those that needed to be reprimanded. Tge NPO is more than Francoism. Spoken as a former citizen and low level groundpounder.

Francoism should die a death with ancient medical cures.

If you have no respect for the history and legacy of the NPO, you have no respect for the NPO at all. Sad to hear this from an ex-Pacifican.

Disagreeing about francoism then saying I have no respect for the NPO is funny. I don't feel the need to justify more of my opinion to you.

[Foreign Policy Idealists]

Francoism, ideals.... Cool. I wish the NPO did more with those that needed to be reprimanded. Tge NPO is more than Francoism. Spoken as a former citizen and low level groundpounder.

Francoism should die a death with ancient medical cures.

If you have no respect for the history and legacy of the NPO, you have no respect for the NPO at all. Sad to hear this from an ex-Pacifican.

Truer words were never spoken.

[RiderSyl]

If you have no respect for the history and legacy of the NPO, you have no respect for the NPO at all. Sad to hear this from an ex-Pacifican.

Truer words were never spoken.

I actually think you're both puppets and just talking to yourself.

[BattleshipPacifica]

If you have no respect for the history and legacy of the NPO, you have no respect for the NPO at all. Sad to hear this from an ex-Pacifican.

Disagreeing about francoism then saying I have no respect for the NPO is funny. I don't feel the need to justify more of my opinion to you.

You are free to disagree about Francoism, I never said otherwise. However the fact remains that by disavowing Francoism as crucial element of the NPO's legacy that shaped the past and as unforgettable part of its history and culture, you show great disrespect for the Order in general. A culture that to this day continues to shape the future by combining the merits of the old and the new. This is why we remain The New Pacific Order. The revolution is just like the Pacifica itself, always moving forward.

[Elegarth]

Ignorant puppets talking to themselves... Ugh...

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I am disgusted by the actions of the NPO's Senate and their persistent use of the Delegate supremacy argument to justify their cowardice in refusing to adhere to the true ideals of Francoism and stand up for the noble ideals of sovereignty that they nominally stand for. The NPO's recent actions are not an example of principled action and magnanimity in the face of insidious efforts to establish a sort of Pacifican imperialism; rather, they are an example of pusillanimity and cowardice by remaining sheltered in the Pacific despite the noble efforts of those loyal Francoists that strive for the NPO to stand up for what it nominally believes in. By failing to abide by the tenets of their nominal ideology or even idly sit by and allow those true Francoists to take action, the Senate and Emperor have clearly cast their stock with those terrible forces that have no loyalty but to their own personal power. Morality and ideals are crucial if the NPO wishes to be a strong and active force in NationStates Gameplay, and I hope that the NPO may see the light or at the very least allow their citizens to protect the sovereignty of all GCRs.

The actions of those in question included, among other questionable military interactions with userites, making a UCR an official protectorate of The Pacific. Now, I'm no expert on the matter, but that doesn't seem very Francoist to me. It also seemed like quite a lot of those actions were driven by none other than personal desire for power. I would say it seems like Pier et al are indeed standing up for morality and their ideals.