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The Lazarene Guardian - Sinking Ship Not Sinking, Says Funk

Postby The Lazarene Guardian » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:44 pm

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Welcome to the official thread for the Lazarene Guardian. We are a publication dedicated to fighting for truth, democracy and sovereignty in Lazarus, and aim to represent the people of the region in their endeavors against tyranny of all kinds.

For now, our management and editorial staff remains confidential. Various contributors may be publicized in coming days.

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Issue I - Funk Fires Foreign Affairs Archbishop Ark

Postby The Lazarene Guardian » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:44 pm

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FUNK FIRES FOREIGN AFFAIRS ARCHBISHOP ARK

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Above: Lazarene Delegate Funkadelia delivers remarks about his dismissal of United Arkadia as Archbishop of Foreign Affairs


EMERALD CITY- Lazarus was sent into turmoil today as Sovereign Funkadelia issued a statement declaring his dismissal of Chris Whitehall, aka United Arkadia, from the position of Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Foreign Affairs. The dismissal came late on Tuesday night, as the Delegate found himself enveloped in a political scandal concerning his alleged voter importation and clearly illegal administering of recent elections for Prelates in Lazarus.

The dismissal of Ark was cited on grounds of him being "extremely critical and antagonistic" towards Funkadelia and his program. The move was hardly unexpected, as Ark has recently become a vocal opponent of the Delegate's illegal activities, which seem to further his personal interests and that of political allies, at the expense of Lazarene sovereignty and democracy. Ark is not the only prominent critic in government, and Funkadelia has already sought to curtail the powers of the Celestial Being, Lazarus' elected constitutional monarch, after incumbent Aumelodia blocked the ascendance of the illegitimately elected Killer Kitty to the status of Prelate in the courts. Other prominent critics in government include Prelate Omega, Convenor Svezjacael, and Defender of the Realm (Vice Delegate) Doperland. Luckily for them, they are not subject to the whim of the Delegate, and thus so far immune from the abuse of power apparently committed by Funkadelia.

The Lazarene Guardian has obtained an exclusive copy of the letter sent to Archbishop Whitehall by the Sovereign, which we are pleased to display here:


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It is unknown what will come next for Lazarus. Citizens have expressed dismay and disapproval so far of Funkadelia's recent actions as Sovereign, as discontent grows in the region. In a response to his dismissal, Ark had this to say:


"For the record: this came without warning or my assent. This simply goes to show that Funkadelia has decided that the Lazarene government is his to do with as he pleases. I can only hope he doesn't appoint another of his cronies to replace me."


There has been talk recently of inviting Mr. Whitehall to the Cosmic Council, to testify on his knowledge of collusion between Funkadelia and Lone Wolves United, concerning voter importation. When asked about this in a recent press conference, Funk called the allegations "fake news" and labeled Whitehall "a loser, absolutely a loser, believe me, he is not... someone who wins. He loses, and he loses bigly, folks. He's a loser."
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Postby Canton Empire » Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:52 pm

I don't know if I should laugh at the bias or be stunned at this news. Seriously, you can't make this shit up.
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Postby Moric Benyovszky » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:06 am

A parody, a shameless op-ed, and yet another faceless puppet. If the latter were not a patently hypocritical point to criticise, the first two undeniably are.

Quirks in the reporting style passed over for now, the true lesson to take away from this 'scandal' is that Lazarus's government comes across as astonishingly easy to coopt. Perhaps it is, perhaps Sovereign Funkadelia was in a unique position to accomplish what he did. Still, a situation of paralysis is at hand.
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Postby Saint Draig » Wed Jul 19, 2017 12:42 am

Not that this particularly adds much to the discussion, because it doesn't, though I would just like to take a moment to take note that Sovereign Funkadelia's portrait is apparently that of President Donald Trump of the United States. With that in mind, I did proceed reading, and aside from past differences I have had with Former Archbishop of the Archdiocese of Foreign Affairs (Oooh, drama... Yeah no, it was like once incident in which we weren't exactly best friends) I must say that I find the Sovereign's actions here a bit eye opening.

With that in mind, I recognize the position's and the Sovereign's authority, power, and ability to structure his cabinet as he deems fit. Now, do not quote me on this, because I am admittedly very unfamiliar with the Celestial Union of Lazarus and its respective laws. I am not a citizen nor active member of Lazarus' community, I have never been a citizen nor active member of Lazarus' community, and I do not plan on becoming a citizen or active member of Lazarus' community. But just by reading this, I find certain bits mildly concerning.
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Postby Native » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:29 am

I mean, Ark did call Funk a partisan hack. If you want to keep your job, that's not how you keep your job. It's not a matter of corruption, it's a matter of Funk protecting his interests as elected delegate. What, would you have expected the Medici family to spare Savonarola as well?

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Postby The Church of Satan » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:05 am

The duty of any Lazarene is to put the interests of the region above that of their own interests. Funk has done the reverse. Getting rid of opposition is basic strategy.
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Postby Funkadelia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:06 am

This is pretty good.
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Postby Jakker » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:32 am

I mean if I was in a region with Ark, I'd probably do the same.
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Postby Native » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:39 am

The Church of Satan wrote:The duty of any Lazarene is to put the interests of the region above that of their own interests. Funk has done the reverse. Getting rid of opposition is basic strategy.

I mean, he's within his rights. Plus, it's his administration. You don't see Republicans appointing Democrats. Why? Because what Funk believes is best for the region is different than what others might believe. If someone else doesn't believe that, Lazarus entitles them to that opinion, but it doesn't entitle them to be FA Archbishop.

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Postby Ikania » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:43 am

Native wrote:
The Church of Satan wrote:The duty of any Lazarene is to put the interests of the region above that of their own interests. Funk has done the reverse. Getting rid of opposition is basic strategy.

I mean, he's within his rights. Plus, it's his administration. You don't see Republicans appointing Democrats. Why? Because what Funk believes is best for the region is different than what others might believe. If someone else doesn't believe that, Lazarus entitles them to that opinion, but it doesn't entitle them to be FA Archbishop.

Important thing being that it doesn't seem like he cares about what is best for the region anymore, and when he begins to take actions that clearly harm our community, his actions to remove political/ideological opponents who are trying to stop this subversion only further damages the situation and his reputation.
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Postby Native » Wed Jul 19, 2017 10:54 am

Ikania wrote:Important thing being that it doesn't seem like he cares about what is best for the region anymore, and when he begins to take actions that clearly harm our community, his actions to remove political/ideological opponents who are trying to stop this subversion only further damages the situation and his reputation.

Citation needed.

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Postby DJ Raid » Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:11 am

Ikania wrote:
Native wrote:I mean, he's within his rights. Plus, it's his administration. You don't see Republicans appointing Democrats. Why? Because what Funk believes is best for the region is different than what others might believe. If someone else doesn't believe that, Lazarus entitles them to that opinion, but it doesn't entitle them to be FA Archbishop.

Important thing being that it doesn't seem like he cares about what is best for the region anymore, and when he begins to take actions that clearly harm our community, his actions to remove political/ideological opponents who are trying to stop this subversion only further damages the situation and his reputation.

Frankly, I don't recall a time that Funk didn't put effort toward Lazarus, whether it was the best for the region or not. I suppose only time will tell if his recent actions are for the best, because you are no expert of trends.
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Postby The Peoples of Xaer » Wed Jul 19, 2017 2:17 pm

Now this whole Lazarus thing is some good shit. Spin, intrigue, regional drama and politics, shady operatives pushing contradictory agendas. So which thread is the Fox News on the situation and which one is the MSNBC on it?

I need more popcorn, this is too much fun to watch!

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Issue II - Citizens Proclaim Petition Against Power Grab

Postby The Lazarene Guardian » Wed Jul 19, 2017 6:47 pm

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CITIZENS PROCLAIM PETITION AGAINST POWER GRAB

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A NEW DEVELOPMENT HAS EMERGED in the recent turmoil regarding Funkadelia's illicit activities against the sovereignty and democracy of Lazarus. A group of concerned citizens, numbering in 20, have put forth a declaration to the Sovereign. This association includes many influential citizens in the region, including Guardians, Archbishops, the Convenor, the Celestial Being, former Delegates, and more. The text sets out the legal and moral basis for their arguments, establishing the basic facts: Funkadelia has committed corruption, and is actively seeking to undermine the community of Lazarus, and the sovereignty of the region. The statement details the situation concisely, and deconstructs any pretense that Killer Kitty, elected invalidly, is entitled to serve as Holy Prelate. The signatories express their concern at the recent action taken by Funkadelia to remove the Archbishop of Foreign Affairs, and confirm their intention not to recognize the illegitimate claim to judicial power by Killer Kitty.

This is a significant step forward for the movement to preserve the Celestial Union. The petition includes signatures from defenders, independents and raiders alike, refuting regime propaganda and the talking point that only a small cabal of defender provocateurs have any real issue with the Sovereign's actions. While no response from the government has been recorded yet, the signatories make up a large chunk of the region's active population, and helps give legitimacy to a population being set upon by partisans seeking to discredit the movement.

The full text of the declaration, and its signatories are authored here:

WE, THE UNDERSIGNED CITIZENS OF THE CELESTIAL UNION OF LAZARUS,

In recognition of our duty as citizens to protect the democracy of our great region against all threats, both foreign and internal,

And duly noting the recent turmoil surrounding the recent confirmation vote regarding the region's Prelates,

Do, in our endeavor to protect Lazarus and its democracy, unite to acknowledge and proclaim the following truths:

1. The confirmation of Killer Kitty (Evil Wolf) as Prelate was subject to corruption through the illegal voting of new citizens accepted during the voting period.

2. The Elections Act states that "A citizen whose application was accepted during a regular or special election cycle is unable to cast a vote in said election".

3. If the confirmation of Prelates meets the definition of an election, then the newcomer votes which decided the confirmation for Killer Kitty and against Church Of Satan are invalid, and Funkadelia has misused his power as Elections Commissioner to allow the vote to go through. Furthermore, the Deputy Convenors Tom and The13th were not legally entitled to administer such an election, therefore the votes on Killer Kitty and Church Of Satan are doubly illegal.

4. If the confirmation does not meet the definition of an election, instead being a simple Cosmic Council vote, then the confirmations of Prelates Adytus and Omega are then invalid because the Sovereign illegitimately administered the voting in place of the Convenor. Therefore, the only legal Prelate could be Killer Kitty, and new Prelates must be nominated.

5. The only kinds of elections specified to exist in the Celestial Mandate are regular elections and special elections; contrary to some claims, the confirmation of Prelates can therefore only exist as one of the two, and thus it makes the allowance of newcomers' votes in the confirmations of Killer Kitty and Church Of Satan invalid.

6. The confirmation, by all means, seems to meet the legal definition of an election, and is therefore subject to all the aforementioned discrepancies.

7. The Celestial Being has, in his constitutional authority, refused to grant assent to the confirmation of Killer Kitty as Prelate. This is entirely within his powers to do so, and the Sovereign's claims otherwise directly contradict the Constitution, which states that assent is granted at the Being's discretion.

8. The continued occupation of the office of Prelate by Killer Kitty is thus illegal, as are all of his decisions in the capacity of the office. The criminal inquiry launched into the activities of former Celestial Being Amerion is, therefore, invalid.

9. There is strong circumstantial evidence to suggest that the Sovereign and the Archbishop of the Interior are complicit in a scheme to import votes to Lazarus in order to consolidate their political power, in clear violation of the Criminal Code, which lists such activity as Electoral Fraud. Whether this scheme is being orchestrated on behalf of a raider organization (such as, ostensibly, Lone Wolves United) is both unknown and less relevant than the basic fact that Electoral Fraud has been committed.

As such, we do not recognize the legitimacy of Killer Kitty as a Prelate of the Celestial Union, nor do we acknowledge the legitimacy of his election, regardless of future assent from the Celestial Being. Therefore, we reject any future decisions made by Killer Kitty, who illegally claims to occupy the position of Prelate, and by extent, Holy Prelate. This includes his and Funkadelia's attempts to move along a criminal inquiry against Amerion, which is a clear show trial with no validity. We make no definitive claim regarding foreign involvement in a ploy to puppet Lazarus, but wholeheartedly assert our strong suspicion that there is a concerted effort on behalf of the Sovereign and the Archbishop of the Interior to manipulate the system and undermine Lazarene democracy to further their personal goals.

Furthermore, we note the recent dismissal of United Arkadia as Archbishop of Foreign Affairs to be of great concern, and troubling in a time of crisis for the region. We denounce this action, as the latest in a string of underhanded moves on the part of the Sovereign, clearly aimed at consolidating his power, further undermining the principles that we strive to preserve for our region. The recent actions of the Sovereign ring dangerously close to those of Stujenske, against whom we backed the current Sovereign in our efforts to restore democracy and sovereignty to Lazarus. We conclude that in this time of strife, our sovereignty and way of life has once again come under threat, and we both re-affirm the points outlined in this declaration as well as our intent to uphold the Celestial Mandate, and protect the laws of the Celestial Union.

Signed:

Aumelodia, Celestial Being of Lazarus and Grand Commandant of the Lazarene Celestial Armada
Doperland, Defender of the Realm
Harmoneia, Guardian and Delegate Emeritus
Amerion, Guardian, former Celestial Being and Delegate Emeritus
Wintermoot, Guardian
Svezjacael, Convenor
United Arkadia, Citizen and former Archbishop of Foreign Affairs
United Provinces of Atlantica, Archbishop of Culture
Lenlyvit, Knight Commandant of the Lazarene Celestial Armada
The Church of Satan, Citizen, former Vice Delegate, former Guardian and former Prelate
San Andrewa, Delegate Emeritus
United Federated States of Omega, Prelate
Ikania, Citizen
Morozovia, Citizen
Kanglia, Citizen
Pherttsylvania, Citizen
terephah (Seraph), Citizen
The Noble Thatcherites, Citizen
What Is Dead May Never Die (Griffin), Citizen
Native (Vapid), Citizen


Updates will follow as the situation develops.
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Postby Canton Empire » Wed Jul 19, 2017 7:04 pm

So why has there not been a Motion of no confidence in the Sovereign?
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Postby Sygtopia » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:44 pm

Well, at least you all are being more successful than the Osiris resistance was.

Though taking actions like this is just asking for a coup. You and I both know that Funkadelia probably won't step down. :P
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:56 am

Proper Francoist Thought wrote:Internal Policy must always be based on security, as it must always be a constant in the front of the mind of Francoists that almost all Userites would see them fall to further their own power. To this end there must be no legislation that can be exploited and used against the Pacific in a damaging fashion. A Francoist Pacific would quickly find a constitution to be a ball and chain around their neck, which many, without a second thought, would push into the sea. Not only will it be studied for use by the more refined Userites, but it will badly hamper any future reforms that can be put in place once the security situation is resolved. They will find the same thing with complex laws, and so any state documentation must be both simple and flexible, with the emphasis being placed on law by precedent. This will allow the Pacific to enforce the spirit of the revolution and the laws that it brought, rather than the letter. The fact that it is in the best interests of the Pacific vindicates the enforcement of law, rather than a quest for absolute and unchanging rule.

It's beyond time for Funkadelia to do what is necessary to preserve the sovereignty of Lazarus. I am available to provide advice and assistance.
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Postby Revolutionary Vanguardism » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:21 am

Francoism in Action wrote:Place the region above all else: The top priority for every West Pacifican should be the region. Not external alliances, not themselves, but the region. Greatness comes from the collective, not the individual, and when every achievement is shared by all, all will strive for achievement.


Lazarenes know what they have to do. Funkadelia is placing himself above the region and as such, the collective citizenry of Lazarus has to fight his sapping of the Lazarene community.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:22 am

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:
Francoism in Action wrote:Place the region above all else: The top priority for every West Pacifican should be the region. Not external alliances, not themselves, but the region. Greatness comes from the collective, not the individual, and when every achievement is shared by all, all will strive for achievement.


Lazarenes know what they have to do. Funkadelia is placing himself above the region and as such, the collective citizenry of Lazarus has to fight his sapping of the Lazarene community.

The people signing that petition wouldn't know how to place a region above themselves and their userite ideology if they tried.

The real New Pacific Order would understand that, as they understood it about the ADN and other defenders of that age. The impostor regime masquerading as the NPO understands nothing of Francoism and has instead decided to join the userites, betraying the revolution of Francos Spain.
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Postby Revolutionary Vanguardism » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:24 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:
Lazarenes know what they have to do. Funkadelia is placing himself above the region and as such, the collective citizenry of Lazarus has to fight his sapping of the Lazarene community.

The people signing that petition wouldn't know how to place a region above themselves and their userite ideology if they tried.
Funkadelia was the person that worked with the NPO to maintain power in Lazarus, the one who almost cooperated with them in NLO (with only his personal rivalry with Stujenske preventing him from doing so) and now works with raiders and Imperialists to maintain his power in Lazarus yet again.

This makes him the userite in Lazarus, not the rest of the community. Please, do not twist around the words of Francoism and its teachings for your own goals.

EDIT1; Francoism is a tool of the Pacifican Revolution. It is up to the Emperor and his Senate on how they will choose to use it, and a userite who understands nothing of the Pacific should not be lecturing others on it.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:31 am

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:Funkadelia was the person that worked with the NPO to maintain power in Lazarus, the one who almost cooperated with them in NLO (with only his personal rivalry with Stujenske preventing him from doing so) and now works with raiders and Imperialists to maintain his power in Lazarus yet again.

This makes him the userite in Lazarus, not the rest of the community. Please, do not twist around the words of Francoism and its teachings for your own goals.

These are, of course, misrepresentations and outright lies, which is what one should expect from a userite hiding behind a puppet.

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:Francoism is a tool of the Pacifican Revolution. It is up to the Emperor and his Senate on how they will choose to use it, and a userite who understands nothing of the Pacific should not be lecturing others on it.

Francoism is the guiding force behind Feederite (and Sinkerite) revolution. It cannot be owned by one Feeder, but rather it is the property of all true Feederites. The NPO is a Degenerated Feederite State that has betrayed the Feederite revolution, and Francoism should now be reclaimed by true Feederites in other Feeders and Sinkers. That reclaiming can and should begin in Lazarus now to purge the userite subversives trying to maintain so-called "defender" control over a Sinker that does not properly belong to them, but rather belongs to the true Sinkerites of Lazarus.
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Postby Revolutionary Vanguardism » Thu Jul 20, 2017 3:41 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:These are, of course, misrepresentations and outright lies, which is what one should expect from a userite hiding behind a puppet.
If you really believe that Funkadelia did not willingly cooperate with the New Pacific Order, you should really do a better research on the events that took place behind the stage.


Cormactopia Prime wrote:Francoism is the guiding force behind Feederite (and Sinkerite) revolution. It cannot be owned by one Feeder, but is the property of all true Feederites. The NPO is a Degenerated Feederite State that has betrayed the Feederite revolution, and Francoism should now be reclaimed by true Feederites in other Feeders and Sinkers. That reclaiming can and should begin in Lazarus now to purge the userite subversives trying to maintain so-called "defender" control over a Sinker that does not properly belong to them, but rather belongs to the true Sinkerites of Lazarus.
It is evident from all essays on Francoism and the understanding of Francoism that emerged during the enlightened era of the People's Republic of the Pacific that Pacifica itself is the spiritual home of the Feederite Revolution. Quoting Unlimited yet again;

Proper Francoist Thought wrote:Francoism is both isolationist and internationalist at the same time. It is the duty of all Francoists to lend their support to the Francoists of other Pacifics, as in the end their goals are one in the same freedom from the slavery of the Userites. It is this solidarity that will lead to the eventual reuniting of the Pacifics, united to seek their class aims of peace, strength and prosperity while free from the shackles the world has sought to imprison them in for all of history. But this cannot be achieved by a fabricated revolution - by invasion or infiltration - for that is not a revolution at all and will end in the loyal Feederites leading a widespread insurrection against the Francoists, rather than giving widespread support and becoming Francoists themselves. So the Francoists must support Francoist Pacifics and emerging Francoism as far as they can without alienating the masses of the host Pacific.


You, as Comrade Unlimited warned us, are attempting to create a fabricated revolution. Your actions can only discredit the Pan-Feederite movement and frankly, anyone should see that you are no true Francoist and are instead jumping from in-game ideology to in-game ideology, based on what suits your interests. You serve nobody but yourself and you are one of the most untrustworthy people in the entire game. How many more communities will you attempt to destroy? How can you claim to serve any sort of Feederite or Sinkerite movement when in the entirety of your NS career you have been a userite and servant of userites and in your brief time in the Order, attempted to betray it too?

I am fine with you supporting your userite friends. Let us not even call them userites, if that is what you want. But do not attempt to discredit Francoism by your use of it and claim falsehoods regarding the New Pacific Order. Pacifica shall always be the home of the Feederites.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:00 am

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:If you really believe that Funkadelia did not willingly cooperate with the New Pacific Order, you should really do a better research on the events that took place behind the stage.

I'm not arguing that Funkadelia never cooperated with the NPO. I'm arguing that you are misrepresenting his motives. His motives were pure; he wanted to defend the sovereignty of Lazarus and, regrettably, believed the NPO shared that goal. He later learned otherwise, as did many others. Of course, some of us knew all along, but you can't fault someone for making mistakes and learning from them.

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:It is evident from all essays on Francoism and the understanding of Francoism that emerged during the enlightened era of the People's Republic of the Pacific that Pacifica itself is the spiritual home of the Feederite Revolution. Quoting Unlimited yet again

The regime calling itself the NPO forfeited its right to be "the spiritual home of the Feederite Revolution" when it abandoned Francoism as its guiding ideology and decided to instead pursue naked imperialism against its fellow Feeders and Sinkers, in league with userites. There is, at present, no "spiritual home" for the Feederite revolution or for Francoism, and there will not be until a Feeder or Sinker once again adopts authentic Francoism, implements a true dictatorship of the Feederites, and becomes the beacon and voice for genuine Feederite revolution.

Lazarus can be the Sinker to take up the banner of the revolution, and Funkadelia and his associates can be the vanguard to usher in the revolution. Revolution is still possible in Lazarus, it just requires true Sinkerite leadership disassociated from the false NPO regime.

Revolutionary Vanguardism wrote:You, as Comrade Unlimited warned us, are attempting to create a fabricated revolution. Your actions can only discredit the Pan-Feederite movement and frankly, anyone should see that you are no true Francoist and are instead jumping from in-game ideology to in-game ideology, based on what suits your interests. You serve nobody but yourself and you are one of the most untrustworthy people in the entire game. How many more communities will you attempt to destroy? How can you claim to serve any sort of Feederite or Sinkerite movement when in the entirety of your NS career you have been a userite and servant of userites and in your brief time in the Order, attempted to betray it too?

I am fine with you supporting your userite friends. Let us not even call them userites, if that is what you want. But do not attempt to discredit Francoism by your use of it and claim falsehoods regarding the New Pacific Order. Pacifica shall always be the home of the Feederites.

I have been more Francoist over the past five years than perhaps any other individual in NationStates. While I've obviously been imperfect, I have always endeavored to put the needs of Osiris, my Sinker home, ahead of my own and indeed to make Osiris' interests my personal interests, and on multiple occasions I have fought to preserve the sovereignty of Osiris against userite threats both foreign and domestic. On multiple occasions, the true Sinkerites of Osiris have fought alongside me, and we have always persevered over the userite menace. Meanwhile, the NPO has made itself a quasi-userite menace.

I will not deny betraying the NPO. I betrayed the NPO because of its imperialist ambitions to control Lazarus against the will of Lazarene Sinkerites. I betrayed the NPO in favor of the Sinkerites of Lazarus who deserved to control their own region, and I would do it again. That's why I am the actual Francoist in this debate and you are the userite defending a Degenerated Feederite State engaged in imperialism. The NPO is once again acting against Lazarene Sinkerite sovereignty through the NPO's agent, United Arkadia, and userite "defender" collaborators.
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Postby Revolutionary Vanguardism » Thu Jul 20, 2017 4:21 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:I'm not arguing that Funkadelia never cooperated with the NPO. I'm arguing that you are misrepresenting his motives. His motives were pure; he wanted to defend the sovereignty of Lazarus and, regrettably, believed the NPO shared that goal. He later learned otherwise, as did many others. Of course, some of us knew all along, but you can't fault someone for making mistakes and learning from them.
He did not, at any time, want to protect the sovereignty of Lazarus. He was acting in his capacity as a defender to bring Lazarus together with his other defenders friends and conspirators into the fold of the FRA. The NPO was more or less willing to cooperate I imagine, one less userite faction to worry about and in the years of the People's Republics true attempts were made to bring Francoism to the masses. Unfortunately, the FRA clique sabotaged the true Sinkerites of Lazarus and as such the Revolution in Lazarus did not succeed and instead the mistake that was the NLO occured.


Cormactopia Prime wrote:The regime calling itself the NPO forfeited its right to be "the spiritual home of the Feederite Revolution" when it abandoned Francoism as its guiding ideology and decided to instead pursue naked imperialism against its fellow Feeders and Sinkers, in league with userites. There is, at present, no "spiritual home" for the Feederite revolution or for Francoism, and there will not be until a Feeder or Sinker once again adopts authentic Francoism, implements a true dictatorship of the Feederites, and becomes the beacon and voice for genuine Feederite revolution.

Lazarus can be the Sinker to take up the banner of the revolution, and Funkadelia and his associates can be the vanguard to usher in the revolution. Revolution is still possible in Lazarus, it just requires Feederite leadership disassociated from the false NPO regime.
The New Pacific Order has always acted to protect the sovereignty of Feeders and Sinkers alike. While regrettable mistakes may have occurred, that is only natural. The Revolutionary regime in Francograd is becoming 14 years old this year and none can claim a spotless history in this game. Like it fought ADN and its imperialism in TP, TNP and other regions, the Revolution and any true Francoist must oppose imperialist and raider intrusion in the affairs of sinkerites. To claim that the likes of LWU and other factions will bring Francoism to Lazarus and freedom of choice for the natives is false. These people have no interest in a free Lazarus; they instead wish to subjugate it and turn it into yet another tool in their R/D adventures.

Funkadelia can usher no revolution. Only the true natives of Lazarus, regardless of alignment, can.


Cormactopia Prime wrote:I have been more Francoist over the past five years than perhaps any other individual in NationStates. While I've obviously been imperfect, I have always endeavored to put the needs of Osiris, my Sinker home, ahead of my own and indeed to make Osiris' interests my personal interests, and on multiple occasions I have fought to preserve the sovereignty of Osiris against userite threats both foreign and domestic. On multiple occasions, the true Sinkerites of Osiris have fought alongside me, and we have always persevered over the userite menace. Meanwhile, the NPO has made itself a quasi-userite menace.

I will not deny betraying the NPO. I betrayed that regime because of its imperialist ambitions to control Lazarus against the will of Lazarene Sinkerites. I betrayed the NPO in favor of the Sinkerites of Lazarus who deserved to control their own region, and I would do it again. That's why I am the actual Francoist in this debate and you are the userite defending a Degenerated Feederite State engaged in widespread imperialism. The false NPO is once again acting against Lazarene sovereignty through United Arkadia and userite "defender" collaborators.
You are no Francoist. You never were Francoist. You have collaborated with all sorts of people, always to further your own personal agenda. You jump from alignment to alignment, switch loyalties as if you were switching shirts. Your actions in Osiris only harmed the community in the long-term, despite the region currently being stable. You are no true Sinkerite and no true Sinkerites have fought alongside you. Only people with similar userite interests.

Last but not least, this theory of yours regarding the menacing NPO-Defender conspiracy in Lazarus is absurd. Arkadia is acting in his capacity as a citizen of Lazarus to work together with other free-thinking citizens to fight this usurpation of power. Since when is dual citizenship a crime? Has Arkadia not contributed to the Lazarene community? Perhaps, we should ban all people who hold citizenship in the NPO from all other feeders and sinkers. Yes, just in case. You never know when the NPO boogie-man is going to strike after all :roll:
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