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Tracian Empire
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Introduction
Welcome to the INWU's RP discussion thread! The new go-to place for all things RP in the INWU! You may be wondering why this thread is here.
That's a very good question. Up till now the RMB has been the main medium of discussion for RP in the INWU. Whilst the RMB is very convenient for holding discussions it is ill-suited for the task of discussing something as important as our RP world(s). Oftentimes the RMB goes by too fast and includes too many conversations to keep track of what RP matters are being discussed. Along with that, the RMB lacks any decent way to log/archive RP discussions. This makes it neigh impossible to continue a discussion once it's concluded. Hence the need for this thread. And now it exists!

All things relating to INWU RP can be discussed here. Though as of now the MT RP is the only established RP. Of course that will more than likely change. Feel free to let loose and enjoy discussing RP to your heart's content. With respect to all forum rules of course!

Topics for Discussion
-U.N.
-Continent/Ocean Names
-NPCs

Discussion Log

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[Tracian Empire]

I love the activity here

[Celitannia]

Turn down for what

[Tracian Empire]

We should discuss the UN

[Gatito]

We should discuss the UN

The UN should serve as an organization to mediate international recognition of states' legitimacy. And this will only work out if everybody is a member, which I know some people may be opposed to because muh reasons.

[Tracian Empire]

We should discuss the UN

The UN should serve as an organization to mediate international recognition of states' legitimacy. And this will only work out if everybody is a member, which I know some people may be opposed to because muh reasons.

Yeah, as an example, Thynia will most likely not be a part of the UN, because Thrace would be the legitimate state recognized by the UN. Like China and Taiwan.

The UN should mediate everything. RP situations would be far less likely to degenerate into shitstorms, if there is an organization that is supposed to mediate things.

That it probably won't work perfectly is another thing, but we should create a mechanism and a history for it.

And I personally believe that adding it and more diplomacy in general to our RP would be a good thing.

[Ichoria]

The UN should serve as an organization to mediate international recognition of states' legitimacy. And this will only work out if everybody is a member, which I know some people may be opposed to because muh reasons.

Yeah, as an example, Thynia will most likely not be a part of the UN, because Thrace would be the legitimate state recognized by the UN. Like China and Taiwan.

The UN should mediate everything. RP situations would be far less likely to degenerate into shitstorms, if there is an organization that is supposed to mediate things.

That it probably won't work perfectly is another thing, but we should create a mechanism and a history for it.

And I personally believe that adding it and more diplomacy in general to our RP would be a good thing.

Well, North Korea's represented in the UN, as was South Yemen, and they both claim (or claimed) the entire territory of their respective nation. I'm sure Thynia would find a way to represent itself, especially if we happen to have a new Socialist superpower on the map after Raventsvo.

[Tracian Empire]

Yeah, as an example, Thynia will most likely not be a part of the UN, because Thrace would be the legitimate state recognized by the UN. Like China and Taiwan.

The UN should mediate everything. RP situations would be far less likely to degenerate into shitstorms, if there is an organization that is supposed to mediate things.

That it probably won't work perfectly is another thing, but we should create a mechanism and a history for it.

And I personally believe that adding it and more diplomacy in general to our RP would be a good thing.

Well, North Korea's represented in the UN, as was South Yemen, and they both claim (or claimed) the entire territory of their respective nation. I'm sure Thynia would find a way to represent itself, especially if we happen to have a new Socialist superpower on the map after Raventsvo.

Unlikely, or at the very least, not in it's form. Because Thynia is officially known as the Thracian Democratic Republic. And both countries have an history of refusing to engage in diplomacy with countries recognizing the other.

So Thynia's recognition will either be provisional/recognized as something else, or none at all. Because Thrace will most likely be able to veto Thynia's recognition, if we do choose to implement the right to veto.

[Ichoria]

Well, North Korea's represented in the UN, as was South Yemen, and they both claim (or claimed) the entire territory of their respective nation. I'm sure Thynia would find a way to represent itself, especially if we happen to have a new Socialist superpower on the map after Raventsvo.

Unlikely, or at the very least, not in it's form. Because Thynia is officially known as the Thracian Democratic Republic. And both countries have an history of refusing to engage in diplomacy with countries recognizing the other.

So Thynia's recognition will either be provisional/recognized as something else, or none at all. Because Thrace will most likely be able to veto Thynia's recognition, if we do choose to implement the right to veto.

You lost the world war, why would you have a right to veto anything? And North Korea is officially known as DPR Korea within the UN, so divided countries have precedent within the actual organization.

[Tracian Empire]

Unlikely, or at the very least, not in it's form. Because Thynia is officially known as the Thracian Democratic Republic. And both countries have an history of refusing to engage in diplomacy with countries recognizing the other.

So Thynia's recognition will either be provisional/recognized as something else, or none at all. Because Thrace will most likely be able to veto Thynia's recognition, if we do choose to implement the right to veto.

You lost the world war, why would you have a right to veto anything? And North Korea is officially known as DPR Korea within the UN, so divided countries have precedent within the actual organization.

We decided that both wars will end in stalemates.

As such, yes, both of us might end up in the Security Council.

Yes, but my case is closer to China and Taiwan or East and West Germany than Korea and Taiwan.

Thynia might be in the UN, but it would be a constant source of conflict, as Thrace would be constantly calling for restrictions and sanctions.

[Gatito]

You lost the world war, why would you have a right to veto anything? And North Korea is officially known as DPR Korea within the UN, so divided countries have precedent within the actual organization.

We decided that both wars will end in stalemates.

As such, yes, both of us might end up in the Security Council.

Yes, but my case is closer to China and Taiwan or East and West Germany than Korea and Taiwan.

Thynia might be in the UN, but it would be a constant source of conflict, as Thrace would be constantly calling for restrictions and sanctions.

I suppose this would prompt foreign backers of Thynia to play a role in its representation as well?

[Tracian Empire]

We decided that both wars will end in stalemates.

As such, yes, both of us might end up in the Security Council.

Yes, but my case is closer to China and Taiwan or East and West Germany than Korea and Taiwan.

Thynia might be in the UN, but it would be a constant source of conflict, as Thrace would be constantly calling for restrictions and sanctions.

I suppose this would prompt foreign backers of Thynia to play a role in its representation as well?

Which might explain a provisional recognition as the Thynian Democratic Republic or something.

[Tracian Empire]

In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.

It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.

I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.

And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.

So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.

That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.

[Gatito]

In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.

It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.

I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.

And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.

So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.

That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.

The permanent membership of some nations to the SC is something I'd rather not have mirrored in this continuity.

[Tracian Empire]

In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.

It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.

I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.

And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.

So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.

That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.

The permanent membership of some nations to the SC is something I'd rather not have mirrored in this continuity.

I don't like it too much either.

It's realistic to assume that without the great powers in it, the Security Council is nothing. I don't see larger nations bending to Security Council resolutions in real life, so would they bend to a Security Council with temporary, smaller members?

We need to a way to make sure that the UN's resolutions are more or less enforced, or we'll end up with a real life, crumbling League of Nations.

[Tracian Empire]

I mean, let's see if anyone had any other ideas about how to improve this.

What could be easily done is simple - no veto right for any of the members.

[Topsail Empire]

I consider myself a large player in WWII.

In general I dislike the idea of a security council. It creates a situation much like the tier system of old, and we all know how that turned out.

[Tracian Empire]

I consider myself a large player in WWII.

In general I dislike the idea of a security council. It creates a situation much like the tier system of old, and we all know how that turned out.

Certainly, but there are other who are larger.

I don't like the idea too much either, but how else are we supposed to maintain international peace?

Keeping the security council is a must in my opinion, we have to decide how to tweak it however.

[Ichoria]

In terms of the UN, my name proposal is the League of Nations. Not exactly original, but I just like the name much more than the UN, and Community of Nations or Commonwealth of Nations are ridiculous.

It should be formed after WW2, when most of our alliances would discover the nuclear bomb at roughly the same time, with a difference of months. The end of the war and the Armistice would begin with the creation of an international organization.

I think that we just model it after the real life UN. Re-imagining it to be more fair would be interesting, but the world is greedy, it's unlikely that it would work.

And the Security Council should be larger than in real life. Since we don't really have a winner side of WW2, it would have been made to balance the great powers.

So, we have Kathmandue and Celibrae from the still unnamed Allies. Ichoria (if he wants it) and Thrace from the Autocratic League. And then we have nations that still don't have a big role in the war, but they can't be ignored. The NorCon, Hijjma, Tiandao, and !Raventsvo.

That would give us eight permanent members of the Security Council, and a lot of diplomatic tensions.

How about the Council of Nations?
It's short, sounds pretty plausible, and it avoids copying real world names with real world connotations.
How's this for a flag?
https://i.imgur.com/JqLV8s1.png

[Tracian Empire]

Alright, we'll go with Ichoria's idea, the Council of Nations, I like it.

The first question is, should we simply copy the model of the UN with the changes that are necessary for our world, or should we try to fix the UN's problems?

[Celitannia]

Council of Nations would imply the existence of only once council, whilst the UN has several. And I'm very much in favour of there being multiple.

[Tracian Empire]

Council of Nations would imply the existence of only once council, whilst the UN has several. And I'm very much in favour of there being multiple.

It's rather true, but criticizing without offering an alternative isn't exactly helpful, I still like the League of Nations the most. Councils of Nations or the Concordat of nations both sound rather weird.

[Celitannia]

International League.