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by New haven america » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:00 pm
by Minzerland II » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:01 pm
Liriena wrote:Minzerland II wrote:What fascist violence is Antifa currently fighting, Liriena?
I did just post a series of articles relating to a rise in hate crimes since last year. I might be wrong, but I'd wager that that's what antifa is a reaction to. That, and the rise to power and/or prominence of white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, etc.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:02 pm
Liriena wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Ah yes, the crazy Bernie supporting Viking.
Not the best example ever but I'll take it.
Someone doesn't have to be 100% ideologically consistent to be a fascist. Specially with stuff like...If Donald Trump is the Next Hitler then I am joining his SS to put an end to Monotheist Question. All Zionist Jews, All Christians who do not follow Christ's teaching of Love, Charity, and Forgiveness And All Jihadi Muslims are going to Madagascar or the Ovens/FEMA Camps!!! Does this make me a fascist!!!"
by Liriena » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:05 pm
Minzerland II wrote:Liriena wrote:I did just post a series of articles relating to a rise in hate crimes since last year. I might be wrong, but I'd wager that that's what antifa is a reaction to. That, and the rise to power and/or prominence of white nationalists like Steve Bannon, Richard Spencer, etc.
Hate crime =/= fascist violence
Do try to answer again.
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by Sareva » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:06 pm
Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."
by Minzerland II » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:09 pm
Liriena wrote:
Well then, I concede. Not necessarily fascist violence, just far right hate crimes that could have just as easily been committed by Christian fundamentalists or some other flavour of American far right scum.
I feel I must ask, though... was it my potential inaccuracy that concerned you, or the possibility of fascism being tied to violence?
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Liriena » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:10 pm
Minzerland II wrote:Liriena wrote:Well then, I concede. Not necessarily fascist violence, just far right hate crimes that could have just as easily been committed by Christian fundamentalists or some other flavour of American far right scum.
I feel I must ask, though... was it my potential inaccuracy that concerned you, or the possibility of fascism being tied to violence?
What concerns me? What concerns me is people excusing thuggish behaviours and political violence from Antifa.
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by Minzerland II » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:13 pm
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Liriena » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:16 pm
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by Genivaria » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:17 pm
by The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:18 pm
Liriena wrote:Minzerland II wrote:No, mate. I'm not particularly fond of any political violence.
That's alright. I'm squeamish about it myself... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the thing about political violence is that human civilization is kinda built on it, and we who live in the West owe an awful lot of the stuff we take for granted to political violence... and the violence itself, while you might argue that violence is unjustified as a matter of principle, while not excusable, can be understandable... so...
by Liriena » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:19 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Liriena wrote:That's alright. I'm squeamish about it myself... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the thing about political violence is that human civilization is kinda built on it, and we who live in the West owe an awful lot of the stuff we take for granted to political violence... and the violence itself, while you might argue that violence is unjustified as a matter of principle, while not excusable, can be understandable... so...
But antifas, which is all just "violence and destruction for the fun of it" cannot.
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by Washington Resistance Army » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:20 pm
Liriena wrote:Minzerland II wrote:No, mate. I'm not particularly fond of any political violence.
That's alright. I'm squeamish about it myself... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the thing about political violence is that human civilization is kinda built on it, and we who live in the West owe an awful lot of the stuff we take for granted to political violence... and the violence itself, while you might argue that violence is unjustified as a matter of principle, while not excusable, can be understandable... so...
by The Alma Mater » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:24 pm
by Minzerland II » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:27 pm
Liriena wrote:Minzerland II wrote:No, mate. I'm not particularly fond of any political violence.
That's alright. I'm squeamish about it myself... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the thing about political violence is that human civilization is kinda built on it, and we who live in the West owe an awful lot of the stuff we take for granted to political violence... and the violence itself, while you might argue that violence is unjustified as a matter of principle, while not excusable, can be understandable... so...
Genivaria wrote:Minzerland II wrote:No, mate. I'm not particularly fond of any political violence or thuggish behaviour, but Antifa seems to be rather good at it.
This might be nitpicky but is killing terrorists technically 'political violence'?
I'm not personally against the use of violence if the situation is dire enough.
St Anselm of Canterbury wrote:[…]who ever heard of anything having two mothers or two fathers? (Monologion, pg. 63)
by Genivaria » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:29 pm
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Liriena wrote:That's alright. I'm squeamish about it myself... buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut the thing about political violence is that human civilization is kinda built on it, and we who live in the West owe an awful lot of the stuff we take for granted to political violence... and the violence itself, while you might argue that violence is unjustified as a matter of principle, while not excusable, can be understandable... so...
Modern, stable democracies should not tolerate any form of political violence. Whether it be from far right or far left scumbags.
by Sareva » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:33 pm
Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."
by Uiiop » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:38 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Liriena wrote:Have you ever even listened to antifa people or read from their outlets? Some might do it for fun, but I'm pretty sure that's not why the majority do it.
Have you actually seen an actual antifa protest ? Tossing bombs at animals, smashing random peoples cars and pissing on holocaust memorial statues does not send a "stop all nazis" message.
by Sareva » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:50 pm
Uiiop wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:Have you actually seen an actual antifa protest ? Tossing bombs at animals, smashing random peoples cars and pissing on holocaust memorial statues does not send a "stop all nazis" message.
There was one in which they grouped up with pro-trump people IIRC.
https://vimeo.com/216810119
I know biased but even others sources show something more toned down than your hyperbole.
Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."
by Genivaria » Fri Jun 23, 2017 10:56 pm
Uiiop wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:Have you actually seen an actual antifa protest ? Tossing bombs at animals, smashing random peoples cars and pissing on holocaust memorial statues does not send a "stop all nazis" message.
There was one in which they grouped up with pro-trump people IIRC.
https://vimeo.com/216810119
I know biased but even other sources show something more toned down than your hyperbole.
by Corrian » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:05 pm
by Zanera » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:14 pm
Corrian wrote:Yellowstone Grizzly Bears are off the endangered species list for the first time in 42 years
Seriously, screw this Administration.
by Ism » Fri Jun 23, 2017 11:16 pm
Corrian wrote:Yellowstone Grizzly Bears are off the endangered species list for the first time in 42 years
Seriously, screw this Administration.
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