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Is a civil war in Venuzeula likely?

Yes
59
51%
No
26
22%
I don't know much about Venezuelan politics.
31
27%
 
Total votes : 116

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Greater Miami Shores
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue May 23, 2017 10:25 pm

Seraven wrote:
Liriena wrote:Unless Trump turns out to be an even bigger belligerent idiot than he appears at this moment, I doubt it.


Is it possible for China/Russia to sent in their own military, albeit however relatively small of them, into Venezuela, to replaced the leadeR?


It is not in their interest to replace the leader. Replacing the leader dosent change anything. It would be easier for Cuba, than any other nation to replace Maduro.
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Postby Uxupox » Wed May 24, 2017 2:43 am

Seraven wrote:
Liriena wrote:Unless Trump turns out to be an even bigger belligerent idiot than he appears at this moment, I doubt it.


Is it possible for China/Russia to sent in their own military, albeit however relatively small of them, into Venezuela, to replaced the leadeR?


Highly unlikely that the OSA would ever allow that.
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Phoenicaea
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Postby Phoenicaea » Wed May 24, 2017 4:00 am

ps. yes.

We face, in my opinion, growing of a Syrian syndrome spreading over regimes, in most continents, where it means affaristic and oscene interests discovered the mean to stay sure, which is incidently the most ancient of all times, since governments were established: military division and genocide.
How, executing unarmed and, most of all, meaningfull and prepared opposition at first (so that it will decimated when, too late, it will be obliged to seek arms). Why: because it has not been punished (gratified instead), in Syrya, because of futile affair interests.

That s why, perhaps, this my Ns tends to "Anarchy", I predict peoples will become even more uneasy with this sick path, in "rich and developped -more pacific- countries". Why, because these are only places where it can be said

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Seraven
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Postby Seraven » Fri May 26, 2017 12:46 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Is it possible for China/Russia to sent in their own military, albeit however relatively small of them, into Venezuela, to replaced the leadeR?


It is not in their interest to replace the leader. Replacing the leader dosent change anything. It would be easier for Cuba, than any other nation to replace Maduro.


Cuba?
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Greater Miami Shores
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri May 26, 2017 2:00 am

Seraven wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:
It is not in their interest to replace the leader. Replacing the leader dosent change anything. It would be easier for Cuba, than any other nation to replace Maduro.


Cuba?


Cuba probably has more influence on the Venezuela gov than any other nation. Same political, economic and social ideology. Despite the drop in cheaper Venezuelan oil exports to Cuba. Now being made up by Russian oil exports to Cuba. The Cuban gov still has thousands of doctors, nurses, and workers in Venezuelan, earning the Cuban gov a lot of money. Not to even mention Venezuelan, Cuban military relations. Not that the Cuban gov would want to get rid of Maduro, as it is not in their interest for the Venezuelan gov to change and be in the hands of the opposition.
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Phoenicaea
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Postby Phoenicaea » Fri May 26, 2017 2:08 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Seraven wrote:
Cuba?


Cuba probably has more influence on the Venezuela gov than any other nation..Not that the Cuban gov would want to get rid of Maduro, as it is not in their interest for the Venezuelan gov to change and be in the hands of the opposition.


mmh, what about China. we have the least information about, nevertheless Cuban influence could limit to soft things, namely diplomacy (where it is insidiated by che church, doesn t matter now). For things as "get rid of Maudro" and his support, and so, Chinese hand can be supposed to be appropriate, I ask why do you Americans seem not to mention it
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Postby Lautrec- » Fri May 26, 2017 4:13 am

More like a certainty at this point. No way they will recover from this mess with that government.
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