by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 9:17 am
by Leppikania » Fri May 19, 2017 10:53 am
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 12:53 pm
Leppikania wrote:Yes, ADHD is a thing in NationStates. Why exactly wouldn't it be? "Mental" just sounds stupid and just a little bit offensive.
Anyway, I suggest you actually write some options for this issue. It would really help get your issue accepted.
by Tinhampton » Fri May 19, 2017 12:55 pm
Dytarma wrote:since I didn't have enough time to write the actual options.
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 1:32 pm
by The Atlae Isles » Fri May 19, 2017 2:43 pm
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 2:49 pm
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 4:35 pm
Leutria wrote:Also IQ has nothing to do with things like ADHD, I would take out the reference to that and just say they have to be proscibed by a doctor.
by Australian rePublic » Fri May 19, 2017 4:38 pm
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 4:41 pm
Australian Republic wrote:This isn't necasserily my positions, but a lot of people believe that ADHD is a myth to excuse poor disipline. I'm surprised I didn't see an option refering to this. Also, option 1, if schools ban them, and they still manage to sneak them in, what will @@LEADER@@ banning them achieve?
by Australian rePublic » Fri May 19, 2017 5:08 pm
Dytarma wrote:Australian Republic wrote:This isn't necasserily my positions, but a lot of people believe that ADHD is a myth to excuse poor disipline. I'm surprised I didn't see an option refering to this. Also, option 1, if schools ban them, and they still manage to sneak them in, what will @@LEADER@@ banning them achieve?
That does sound like a good idea.
Maybe they could have their backpacks checked for fidget flickers, and if the kids do have them, then they are taken away until the end of the school day.
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 5:15 pm
Australian Republic wrote:Dytarma wrote:That does sound like a good idea.
Maybe they could have their backpacks checked for fidget flickers, and if the kids do have them, then they are taken away until the end of the school day.
And is there any reason that the school can't do this without the government getting involved?
by The Atlae Isles » Fri May 19, 2017 5:27 pm
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 5:31 pm
by Abhichandra » Fri May 19, 2017 6:34 pm
[title] Your Fidgets Are Too Fidgety!
[description] The Fidget Flicker, a new toy released for kids who have ADHD, has reached a new level of popularity for toys of their category. So popular in fact, they are being used by kids who don't have ADHD. Most of these kids have been using these in public schools inappropriately, and as such public schools all across @@NATION@@ have started to ban them, even for the kids who need them.
[option] "Hmpf, can't you just see with your own naked eyes why this 'toy' is absurd?" Says Mrs. @@RANDOMFEMALEFIRSTNAME@@, a teacher at @@CAPITAL@@ Elementary. "Every time I'm teachingMmath after lunch, I always see at least one kid flicking their flicker on the desk, and they never seen to learn! I mean, they get straight A's, but it is just so annoying to my ears! I try my best, I take it from them, give them detention, but the very next day, guess what? They bring it back! Better yet, we'll check their bags everyday in order to make sure they don't have them flickers. Please ban this toy from all public schools in @@NAME@@, for all our ear's sake. (Add end quotation)
[effect] Teachers can once again hear the sound of moving pencils in class.
[option] "Now hold up dude, you can't just do this!" Says failing student @@RANDOMNAME@@, as @@HE@@ is flicking a fidget flicker. "We like need to have fun and stuff, as well as to keep on track, or something like that. It passes time so we don't have to do homewo (I would add more to homework)- uh... I mean don't have to fail classes. Look, just don't ban it for our sake.(add end quotation mark)
[effect] Desks often have grooves from flicking a fidget flicker.
[option] "Our research has repeated over and over that fidget flickers can be good, if used by the right people." Comments Dr. @@RANDOMFIRSTNAMEMALE@@, a scientist on child and teenage behavior. " If given to the kids who actually need them, they can be focused and not goof off as much. However, if the fidgets are given a child without ADHD, they are just a nuisance with no real purpose. I propose that only kids who are confirmed to have ADHD can have fidgetspinnersflickers, and those who don't have ADHD may use them fidgets at home, but not at any public school(add period and end quotation mark)
[effect] Kids get toys if approved by doctors.
[option] "Pfff, what if these ADHD ridden kids are lying?" Questions Gym teacher @@RANDOMNAME@@, as @@he@@ chucks a fidget flicker from your desk away from you. "What if they're just lying so they don't have all the homework you guys give out? Sure, their parents might say otherwise, but let's be honest, ADHD is just some bologna kids made up to get less work.Well,how about we treat everyone equally? No fidget spinners for anyone! And no more of them special classes for those kids, for equality's sake of course.(add period and end quotation mark)
[effect] Chess is an ADHD kid's worse nightmare.
by Dytarma » Fri May 19, 2017 6:40 pm
by Leutria » Fri May 19, 2017 10:12 pm
by Dytarma » Sat May 20, 2017 5:30 am
Leutria wrote:Dytarma wrote:Hm, I always thought there was a correlation. I'll make the change, but how would they be prescribed?
Doing a quick Google search, it seems ADHD is much more associationed with high IQ (although I still don't think it is statistically significant). Anyway, it is usually diagnosed behaviorally to see if the child fits the symptoms. Do a google search of your own if you like.
by Leutria » Sat May 20, 2017 5:49 am
Dytarma wrote:Leutria wrote:Doing a quick Google search, it seems ADHD is much more associationed with high IQ (although I still don't think it is statistically significant). Anyway, it is usually diagnosed behaviorally to see if the child fits the symptoms. Do a google search of your own if you like.
So a combination of the two for the prescription?
by Dytarma » Sat May 20, 2017 5:55 am
Leutria wrote:Dytarma wrote:So a combination of the two for the prescription?
I don't think they actually take IQ intk account. They observe the child's behavior and ask parents and teachers about it to see if they have shown most of the symptoms of ADHD for a long enough period (apparently 6 months). It is diagnosed purely from symptoms, there is no fancy test or indicator.
by The Grim Reaper » Sat May 20, 2017 6:17 am
by Dytarma » Sat May 20, 2017 6:56 am
The Grim Reaper wrote:Ah, I'm a bit concerned that fidget flickers are more a fad than they are an issue that we'll be able to look back on in a year and a half.
by Dytarma » Sat May 20, 2017 7:49 am
Zorinthja wrote:It seems like option 1 and 4 have the exact same result; a ban on fidget Flickes. Maybe combine the best parts of each into just the one option and then your option might sound even better!
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