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by Shrilland » Thu May 18, 2017 11:02 am
by Ruskov » Thu May 18, 2017 11:13 am
Lonograd wrote:Like Syria? So America is going to train, arm and fund Islamic fundamentalists to overthrow the government because it isn't a puppet of the U.S.? Seems likely.
by Neu Leonstein » Thu May 18, 2017 11:32 am
Risottia wrote:Venezuela isn't exporting much of its oil, that's exactly why their economy has gone into complete shit. And it isn't exporting its oil because 'Murica has stopped buying it from Venezuela as a way of putting "pressure" on the Venezuelan government (basically as a way to foster a regime change either via a civil war or a military coup, as usual).
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by Crockerland » Thu May 18, 2017 12:12 pm
Stalgard wrote:Crockerland wrote:The next Syria or South Sudan? So it will fall into failed state status because of Obama? That seems unlikely since he's not in charge any more.
actually syria is about destabilizing region to protect israel
they even admited it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmukL16Kkwg for example.
oh and also preventing russia from having hot water port on the other side of bosphor strait
also there was that pipeline project worth miliards funded by rotschilds, i forgot how it was called
as of south sudan i dont have idea but probably reasons unrelated to obongo, i cant see a reason for usa to start wars there but i will invastigate
so, really, obama doesnt have much to do with that, any potus would do that
by Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:12 pm
by Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:13 pm
Crockerland wrote:Stalgard wrote:actually syria is about destabilizing region to protect israel
they even admited it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmukL16Kkwg for example.
oh and also preventing russia from having hot water port on the other side of bosphor strait
also there was that pipeline project worth miliards funded by rotschilds, i forgot how it was called
as of south sudan i dont have idea but probably reasons unrelated to obongo, i cant see a reason for usa to start wars there but i will invastigate
so, really, obama doesnt have much to do with that, any potus would do that
You should probably "invastigate" more before you spout off baseless conspiracy theories in the future.
by Longweather » Thu May 18, 2017 12:29 pm
by Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 12:35 pm
Longweather wrote:I've heard about how bad the Venezuela food crisis was. Apparently it's not rampant cannibalism bad though.
by Geilinor » Thu May 18, 2017 1:04 pm
Risottia wrote:Volkmacht wrote:As if we haven't got enough to worry about, now a civil war could break out in South America, not far from the United States. If one does break out in a country with as much oil as Venezuela does
Venezuela isn't exporting much of its oil, that's exactly why their economy has gone into complete shit. And it isn't exporting its oil because 'Murica has stopped buying it from Venezuela as a way of putting "pressure" on the Venezuelan government (basically as a way to foster a regime change either via a civil war or a military coup, as usual).
by Athrax » Thu May 18, 2017 1:09 pm
Geilinor wrote:Risottia wrote:Venezuela isn't exporting much of its oil, that's exactly why their economy has gone into complete shit. And it isn't exporting its oil because 'Murica has stopped buying it from Venezuela as a way of putting "pressure" on the Venezuelan government (basically as a way to foster a regime change either via a civil war or a military coup, as usual).
America is producing more oil than ever and prices are low. We don't need it.
by Nakena » Thu May 18, 2017 1:21 pm
by Gig em Aggies » Fri May 19, 2017 10:27 am
The meeting was held three weeks ago at a military base in the northwestern Venezuelan city of Barquisimeto.
“Begin to make preparations with those individuals that can serve as snipers, beginning with psychological and aptitude tests,” Torrealba told his peers in the army, air force and national guard who were in attendance. “There will come a time when we will have to employ them [the snipers] and I want us to be ready for the moment that we have to employ them because the president will not remain at a green [preparation] phase, gentlemen.”
by Greater Miami Shores » Fri May 19, 2017 11:59 am
Nakena wrote:Ruskov wrote:Yes, because the OP was asking if the US was going to arms Islamic Hardliners in Venezuela.
Hezbollah has a presence in Venezuela:
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/i ... bollah-fan
by Greater Miami Shores » Fri May 19, 2017 12:20 pm
Neo Balka wrote:Presto! Socialism!
by Triblios » Fri May 19, 2017 12:21 pm
by Cuprum » Fri May 19, 2017 12:22 pm
by Greater Miami Shores » Fri May 19, 2017 12:26 pm
Triblios wrote:Stalgard wrote:but its not true socialism, clearly venezuela is state capitalism with fascistic government :^)
Nice, in trying to be sarcastic you actually described the status pretty accurately.
Keep railing about how Socialism is a failure when your examples don't even hit the first point of Socialism: democratic control of the company by the workers.
by Aclion » Fri May 19, 2017 12:32 pm
Triblios wrote:Stalgard wrote:but its not true socialism, clearly venezuela is state capitalism with fascistic government :^)
Nice, in trying to be sarcastic you actually described the status pretty accurately.
Keep railing about how Socialism is a failure when your examples don't even hit the first point of Socialism: democratic control of the company by the workers.
Cuprum wrote:Venezuela is like Chile during the last months of Allende presidency, at the end he was deposed by the Army, the only difference is that Maduro has the support of the Army.
by Gig em Aggies » Fri May 19, 2017 12:45 pm
Cuprum wrote:Venezuela is like Chile during the last months of Allende presidency, at the end he was deposed by the Army, the only difference is that Maduro has the support of the Army.
by Triblios » Fri May 19, 2017 1:20 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Triblios wrote:
Nice, in trying to be sarcastic you actually described the status pretty accurately.
Keep railing about how Socialism is a failure when your examples don't even hit the first point of Socialism: democratic control of the company by the workers.
Socialism and Communism, as practiced the world over, yes. The problem with socialism, or communism, for argument sake, let's say the same, is once all the means of production and everything is in the hands of the workers. It is really in the hands of the government, and their cant be any opposition to anything. It becomes an automatic dictatorship.
by Neo Balka » Fri May 19, 2017 1:20 pm
Triblios wrote:Stalgard wrote:but its not true socialism, clearly venezuela is state capitalism with fascistic government :^)
Nice, in trying to be sarcastic you actually described the status pretty accurately.
Keep railing about how Socialism is a failure when your examples don't even hit the first point of Socialism: democratic control of the company by the workers.
by Triblios » Fri May 19, 2017 1:21 pm
Aclion wrote:Triblios wrote:
Nice, in trying to be sarcastic you actually described the status pretty accurately.
Keep railing about how Socialism is a failure when your examples don't even hit the first point of Socialism: democratic control of the company by the workers.
It is endlessly amusing to me how nation's socialist statuses get retconned once they fail to live up to expectations.Cuprum wrote:Venezuela is like Chile during the last months of Allende presidency, at the end he was deposed by the Army, the only difference is that Maduro has the support of the Army.
For how long though?
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