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by Taihei Tengoku » Fri May 12, 2017 7:12 am
by Spirit of Hope » Fri May 12, 2017 7:19 am
Rhodesialund wrote:Laritaia wrote:
the problem with that is that the Ford's were designed with zero provision for the necessary steam piping, designing them to accommodate steam catapults would have resulted in a ship less efficiently arranged to take advantage of the smaller footprint of the EMALS
So now the options are to accelerate the EMALS program to meet deadlines, or extend the deadline and have a carrier that's not combat ready while Sea Trials take longer than expected.
First option, I hate because then that magnifies the probabilities of something going wrong. Second option, I hate even more because we got a 100,000 hunk of steel that's gonna be fucking useless until the EMALS get the extended deadline. So I'd just lean on pressuring the R&D team to work overnights just to get the damn EMALS out the door to meet deadlines.
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by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 7:28 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:It also isn't like the United States is in a desperate race to have more carriers to meet the enemy on the high seas.
by Spirit of Hope » Fri May 12, 2017 7:35 am
Rhodesialund wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:It also isn't like the United States is in a desperate race to have more carriers to meet the enemy on the high seas.
There's a major problem with the sentiment of complacency. Complacency kills. There are more than enough examples throughout military history where complacency has been the number one factor in later crushing defeats.
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by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 7:38 am
Spirit of Hope wrote:Rhodesialund wrote:
There's a major problem with the sentiment of complacency. Complacency kills. There are more than enough examples throughout military history where complacency has been the number one factor in later crushing defeats.
While true, that isn't applicable in any way to this situation. The United States Navy has multiple new aircraft carriers under contract and construction, they are hardly being complacent with their position of power. The delay for getting EMALS to work is more than worth it for the benefits it will provide in the long run. Any other nation attempting to build a navy that could match the US Navy would take years, if not decades, to become competitive, and at this time no nation is attempting to build such capabilities.
by Spirit of Hope » Fri May 12, 2017 7:43 am
Rhodesialund wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:While true, that isn't applicable in any way to this situation. The United States Navy has multiple new aircraft carriers under contract and construction, they are hardly being complacent with their position of power. The delay for getting EMALS to work is more than worth it for the benefits it will provide in the long run. Any other nation attempting to build a navy that could match the US Navy would take years, if not decades, to become competitive, and at this time no nation is attempting to build such capabilities.
Not saying that EMALS should be dumped, as I later posted. It's that it needs to be rushed to meet deadlines.
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by Federated Kingdom of Prussia » Fri May 12, 2017 8:26 am
Kazarogkai wrote:Federated Kingdom of Prussia wrote:Ah, then it's stupid. Sarissa > everything else
Depends on the terrain, doubtful it would have been that useful in a forest. I love spears but still.
Also like most swords I imagine the aforementioned weapon would have been used as a side arm. In the case of the samurai from what I know probably in conjunction with a bow. As such would it not make more sense to compare it to other sidearms rather than a primary arm? In the case of the Macedonians they had a Kopis.
by Purpelia » Fri May 12, 2017 9:08 am
by Crookfur » Fri May 12, 2017 9:47 am
Federated Kingdom of Prussia wrote:Okay, here's the planes that I think would be good to fight the East Germans with:
F-4, because of its superiority to the MiG-23, as well as being fast enough to act as an interceptor in the stead of the F-104,
A-4s, slowly being replaced by A-7s, as lightweight attack and CAS planes,
Plans to introduce Tornados for the multirole strike plane supplementing the F-4 in that role(I would go F-111 but muh protectionism)
And a number of Buccaneers on the northern coast to fight any naval presence that might be there.
On attack helicopters; is there anything at all available to Europe before the 80s? It seems for a while only the US and Russia were even interesting in making attack helicopters.
by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 10:30 am
Purpelia wrote:Out of curiosity just who is it that america is racing against that they need to rush anything? What world power is it that seeks to fight a naval war against them? Are Russia or China suddenly going to pull a new pearl harbor?
by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 12, 2017 12:11 pm
by Purpelia » Fri May 12, 2017 1:58 pm
Rhodesialund wrote:Purpelia wrote:Out of curiosity just who is it that america is racing against that they need to rush anything? What world power is it that seeks to fight a naval war against them? Are Russia or China suddenly going to pull a new pearl harbor?
It's a concept of force projection and maintaining military supremacy, even in peacetime. The bigger and badder you are, the less likely someone is going to invade you or start shit with your country. For the US, a supercarrier offers a whole lot in capabilities that are unmatched by anyone. The advantage must be kept and nurtured.
by The Corparation » Fri May 12, 2017 2:15 pm
United Muscovite Nations wrote:How good of a design for a carrier is the current French carrier? I have more nations planned for RP purposes than just my Russian Empire, so I am curious.
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by United Muscovite Nations » Fri May 12, 2017 2:21 pm
by Gallia- » Fri May 12, 2017 3:03 pm
Rhodesialund wrote:Laritaia wrote:
the problem with that is that the Ford's were designed with zero provision for the necessary steam piping, designing them to accommodate steam catapults would have resulted in a ship less efficiently arranged to take advantage of the smaller footprint of the EMALS
So now the options are to accelerate the EMALS program to meet deadlines, or extend the deadline and have a carrier that's not combat ready while Sea Trials take longer than expected.
First option, I hate because then that magnifies the probabilities of something going wrong. Second option, I hate even more because we got a 100,000 hunk of steel that's gonna be fucking useless until the EMALS get the extended deadline. So I'd just lean on pressuring the R&D team to work overnights just to get the damn EMALS out the door to meet deadlines.
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Honestly the "carrier gap" hasn't been the end of the world. The fact of the matter is that the naval arms race is a marathon, not a sprint, and even a year delay in the commissioning of the Ford wouldn't hurt the US Navy too much.
Rhodesialund wrote:The Corparation wrote:So apparently Trump has decided that EMALS is too complicated to understand and wants a return to steam catapults.
As if he has any choice on DoD procurement and decision making. He can apply pressure, but the decision is up to the DoD. Despite that, I sorta-somewhat agree with him. EMALS is relatively new, me being me I would lean towards the first two Geralds being steam while EMALS matures with further R&D. When it reaches full readiness, then implement it on future Geralds.
by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 5:30 pm
Gallia- wrote:
How Drumpf can kill anything in the DoD:
Step 1) Fire Mattis.
Step 2) Replace him with a sycophant.
by Gallia- » Fri May 12, 2017 5:32 pm
by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 5:36 pm
Gallia- wrote:When Moscow says "прыгать", Drumpf asks "where's Manafort I can't read Russian".
by Gallia- » Fri May 12, 2017 5:39 pm
>both brothers said to have 215+ IQ, such intelligence on Earth has only existed deep in Tibetan monasteries & Area 51
by Rhodesialund » Fri May 12, 2017 5:59 pm
Gallia- wrote:
USA super smarts vs. PRC mega mystics.
World title championship Jeopardy contest Mega!Mystics draw on the collective consciousness of the Noosphere while Super!Smarts use the power of the atom and the speed of light to make an Atomic!Watson powered by black holes. North America iss obliterated by something resembling several gigatons of nuclear energy, the human race was collectively psychically raped for information by floating mystics, and Alex Trebeck is kept alive by a combination of Super!Science and psychic energy in constant agony and existential turmoil in the realm between life and death to finish a game of Jeopardy for all eternity because it exists within the event horizon of thirty black holes. The Golden Podium keeps his body alive while his mind is kept tethered to this mortal coil by force feeding of human souls, stripped from their bodies.
Whoever wins, we all lose. Grim darkness now.
President Drumpf, make it happen.
Get on my level scrub.
by New Oyashima » Fri May 12, 2017 10:28 pm
Taihei Tengoku wrote:Honestly the "carrier gap" hasn't been the end of the world. The fact of the matter is that the naval arms race is a marathon, not a sprint, and even a year delay in the commissioning of the Ford wouldn't hurt the US Navy too much.
by The Corparation » Fri May 12, 2017 10:48 pm
New Oyashima wrote:Taihei Tengoku wrote:Honestly the "carrier gap" hasn't been the end of the world. The fact of the matter is that the naval arms race is a marathon, not a sprint, and even a year delay in the commissioning of the Ford wouldn't hurt the US Navy too much.
Its :NS: and I need a fleet of 100 CVNs and twice as many BBs amirite???
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by Crookfur » Sat May 13, 2017 2:01 am
by Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat May 13, 2017 2:12 am
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