Ultimate Football/Soccer Thread 2016-2017

[Risottia]

Aaand Chiellini makes three!

Ciao ciao Barça, see you at your place.

[Xanixi]

The 6-1 (which itself was rather questionable) was a one-time feat. I don't think there's a chance they make it back from this one.

[Risottia]

The 6-1 (which itself was rather questionable) was a one-time feat. I don't think there's a chance they make it back from this one.

Well, Barça is still Barça and the Camp Nou is going to give them a further boost. Then again Juventus sports the best defense in both Serie A (20 ga in 31 matches) and in CL (2 ga in 9 matches iirc).

[Brad Sampson]

In a few days Barça will rise like a phoenix. Once again. =)

[Xanixi]

The 6-1 (which itself was rather questionable) was a one-time feat. I don't think there's a chance they make it back from this one.

Well, Barça is still Barça and the Camp Nou is going to give them a further boost. Then again Juventus sports the best defense in both Serie A (20 ga in 31 matches) and in CL (2 ga in 9 matches iirc).

Without a doubt, but Juventus didn't have the same feel as PSG. I honestly felt with PSG that, despite winning 4-0, it was unlikely we'd ever see a match like that again from them (and even then, I didn't think PSG was going to lose the way they did). With Juventus, it honestly feels -- at least to me -- that they went out there to do what they needed to do, and yes, they had an absolutely wonderful match, but it doesn't feel like it's a one-of-a-kind performance. I think they'll go out strongly at the Camp Nou, and I think they'll go through to semifinals.

[The Blaatschapen]

The Dutch FA is an utter mess.

Advocaat coach of the Dutch national football team. Again. Seriously, dare to be innovative

[Tananat]

The Dutch FA is an utter mess.

Advocaat coach of the Dutch national football team. Again. Seriously, dare to be innovative

Who would you have preferred, out of interest?

[The Blaatschapen]

The Dutch FA is an utter mess.

Advocaat coach of the Dutch national football team. Again. Seriously, dare to be innovative

Who would you have preferred, out of interest?

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.

Let me repeat:

Gullit

[New Serrland]

Who would you have preferred, out of interest?

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.

Let me repeat:

Gullit

I'm surprised Mancini hasn't been in the discussion for a good national team job like The Netherlands.

The carousel of has-beens must be pretty frustrating.

A tired old hand to steer the ship until Gio van Bronckhorst is ready?

[The Blaatschapen]

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.

Let me repeat:

Gullit

I'm surprised Mancini hasn't been in the discussion for a good national team job like The Netherlands.

The carousel of has-beens must be pretty frustrating.

A tired old hand to steer the ship until Gio van Bronckhorst is ready?

Why Gio?


And why Mancini? Italian / British is not really the style to go in my opinion.

[HC Eredivisie]

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Just say Frank de Boer already

[Rufford]

Who would you have preferred, out of interest?

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.


Let me repeat:

Gullit

As brilliant as he was at Saints, one criticism of Koeman was that he didn't really like playing young players. There were hardly any young English players playing a substantial number of games. Compare that with this season when we've had Ward Prowse (who, once he was playing, got called up for England), Stephens (though that's because of the Van Dijk injury), McQueen and Sims all playing a fair few games under Puel. Not saying Koeman won't win the Netherlands trophies though

Also, forget the Madrid derby, I'm watching Saints VS Arsenal tonight

[Tananat]

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.


Let me repeat:

Gullit

As brilliant as he was at Saints, one criticism of Koeman was that he didn't really like playing young players. There were hardly any young English players playing a substantial number of games. Compare that with this season when we've had Ward Prowse (who, once he was playing, got called up for England), Stephens (though that's because of the Van Dijk injury), McQueen and Sims all playing a fair few games under Puel. Not saying Koeman won't win the Netherlands trophies though

Can you really make that criticism of Koeman at Everton though? This season has seen the emergence of Mason Holgate, Dominic Calvert-Lewin, Ademola Lookman (brought from Charlton) and of course Tom Davies into the mix for Everton, and there's every indication that the likes of Brendan Galloway will continue that moving forward.

[The Alma Mater]

Who would you have preferred, out of interest?

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.

Let me repeat:

Gullit

Why not Erdogan, to ease the political tension between the Netherlands and Turkey ?

[The Blaatschapen]

Tricky. Someone younger, definitely. A more modern look, rather than coaches from the 90s (with the exception of Blind, it was lately van Gaal, Hiddink and now Advocaat). Yet with experience. Ten Cate was for a while in the picture, but that's not an innovator at all.

Ronald Koeman comes to mind, but not sure if he would manage to innovate. Erik ten Hag comes to mind for that. A combination of both perhaps.

There were also talks about Sampaioli, but then we need a good assistant coach (probably with a Spanish football background) who can speak Dutch in order to alleviate the language barrier.

Also, Gullit as assistant now. Gullit.

Let me repeat:

Gullit

Why not Erdogan, to ease the political tension between the Netherlands and Turkey ?

He does not have the license.

[Risottia]

Why not Erdogan, to ease the political tension between the Netherlands and Turkey ?

He does not have the license.

You Dutch deny Erdogan his licence. More evidence of your Nazi methods. Hürr dürr.

[The Blaatschapen]

He does not have the license.

You Dutch deny Erdogan his licence. More evidence of your Nazi methods. Hürr dürr.

The only licenses the Dutch can give are a license to mill.

[The Alma Mater]

Why not Erdogan, to ease the political tension between the Netherlands and Turkey ?

He does not have the license.

But he does have a nice shirt..

[Gim]

Excited for U-17 Korea Republic World Cup!

[Fartsniffage]

So United are in the final against Ajax. Assuming that Ajax finish in the top 2 of the Dutch league, do United get into the Champions League whether or not they win the Europe Cup?

[The Blaatschapen]

So United are in the final against Ajax. Assuming that Ajax finish in the top 2 of the Dutch league, do United get into the Champions League whether or not they win the Europe Cup?

No?

2nd place in Netherlands gives 3rd round qualifier for CL. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/ne ... 44525.html so it seems that Ajax would be bumped up to direct playoffs rather than the round before if they win, but to directly placed if the CL winner has a domestic spot. Nothing is said about the loser of the EL final. So I assume that they have to go through the normal domestic route.

Also, woo! Ajax - Manchester. Great final. It sounds like a final match from the (mid-later) 90s. First European final of a Dutch club in 15 years. Last time a Dutch club was in a final was Feyenoord in 2002.

Feyenoord is bound to win the Dutch domestic league (provided they win it). Which would be their first domestic championship since 1999.

[Liventia]

The access list will not change if Ajax win the Europa League, despite the fact they have already secured a Champions League spot. It does not pass on to Manchester United.

[Fartsniffage]

So United are in the final against Ajax. Assuming that Ajax finish in the top 2 of the Dutch league, do United get into the Champions League whether or not they win the Europe Cup?

No?

2nd place in Netherlands gives 3rd round qualifier for CL. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/ne ... 44525.html so it seems that Ajax would be bumped up to direct playoffs rather than the round before if they win, but to directly placed if the CL winner has a domestic spot. Nothing is said about the loser of the EL final. So I assume that they have to go through the normal domestic route.

Also, woo! Ajax - Manchester. Great final. It sounds like a final match from the (mid-later) 90s. First European final of a Dutch club in 15 years. Last time a Dutch club was in a final was Feyenoord in 2002.

Feyenoord is bound to win the Dutch domestic league (provided they win it). Which would be their first domestic championship since 1999.

So we'll just have to thump Ajax then.

[The Blaatschapen]

No?

2nd place in Netherlands gives 3rd round qualifier for CL. http://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/ne ... 44525.html so it seems that Ajax would be bumped up to direct playoffs rather than the round before if they win, but to directly placed if the CL winner has a domestic spot. Nothing is said about the loser of the EL final. So I assume that they have to go through the normal domestic route.

Also, woo! Ajax - Manchester. Great final. It sounds like a final match from the (mid-later) 90s. First European final of a Dutch club in 15 years. Last time a Dutch club was in a final was Feyenoord in 2002.

Feyenoord is bound to win the Dutch domestic league (provided they win it). Which would be their first domestic championship since 1999.

So we'll just have to thump Ajax then.

That's what Schalke and Lyon thought

[Fartsniffage]

So we'll just have to thump Ajax then.

That's what Schalke and Lyon thought

Manchester United being seen on the same level as Schalke and Lyon. We really have fallen far....