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by Vincent Drake » Mon Apr 03, 2017 4:55 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Mon Apr 03, 2017 5:34 pm
Vincent Drake wrote:I thought we already decided that, in a military gameplay sense, the founder coming back is:
1. A hard win for the natives (It fixes everything)
2. A soft defeat for the raiders (They still took the region though)
3. NA/No Decision for the defenders (Has nothing to do with us militarily)
Outside of that, it's more or less a win for everyone who isn't a raider.
by Sygian II » Mon Apr 03, 2017 6:01 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Consular » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:34 pm
Ridersyl wrote:This was an exhausting read... My two cents are as follows.
Neither raiders nor defenders won in Esquarium.
The natives won. The natives were victorious.
Defenders: Natives being the victors doesn't give you the right to claim victory if you didn't do anything to cause that victory. Your internet mini-game ideology has no bearing on it.
Raiders: When anyone is reminding you that you ended up losing, knowing that the founder would come back and beat you has, is, and will always be one of the shittiest excuses I've ever seen.
Love ya guys, but sometimes, you guys go crazy on here.
by EnTgeisTerT » Mon Apr 03, 2017 7:38 pm
Consular wrote:But that kind of thinking makes it seem as though there are three sides.
I think most defenders and natives are on the same side.
by Luziyca » Mon Apr 03, 2017 8:42 pm
by Guy » Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:39 am
Sygian II wrote:Raiders hit it. We win that battle.
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And the defenders could have attempted a liberation or stopped the raid by moving in and endorsing the delegate like they usually would when we jump. But they didn't succeed at that, so it's a loss there.
[violet] wrote:Never underestimate the ability of admin to do nothing.
by RiderSyl » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:10 am
Guy wrote:I'm not sure you get to define my win objectives, just as I'm not going to claim you "didn't win" becasue you didn't hold on to it as long as you wanted to.
This is the optimal end result for me. You can tell me I didn't win, but I'm far happier than if we had liberated it.
by Tiger Kitten » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:31 am
Ridersyl wrote:Guy wrote:I'm not sure you get to define my win objectives, just as I'm not going to claim you "didn't win" becasue you didn't hold on to it as long as you wanted to.
This is the optimal end result for me. You can tell me I didn't win, but I'm far happier than if we had liberated it.
Your "win objectives" have been defined for a long time.
You, as a defender, did not win. Raiders did not win, either.
The native founder did a better job than the defenders were doing, and raiders were beaten. Both sides need to take their ball and go home already.
by Greyed » Fri Apr 07, 2017 10:49 pm
by Cormactopia Prime » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:15 am
by Pz4 » Wed Apr 12, 2017 10:39 pm
by LollerLand » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:09 am
by Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:20 am
The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258
Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative
by LollerLand » Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:32 am
ON THIS DAY, A FLEET OF HAWKS WREAKED HAVOC ON THE UNSUSPECTING COUNTRYSIDE STOP TERRORIZING NATIVES FROM THE SAFETY OF THEIR BRAND-NEW HORSELESS CARRIAGES, THEY LEFT NOTHING BUT DEVASTATION IN THEIR WAKE STOP
by Jakker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:28 pm
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Lalaq » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:32 pm
Jakker wrote:In whatever language you say it, great work done.
by Jakker » Thu Apr 13, 2017 6:58 pm
The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.
by Sygian II » Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:03 pm
Benevolent Thomas wrote:The Black Hawks continue to be the largest and most successful invader organization in NationStates
by Greyed » Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:49 pm
by Moneyness » Fri Apr 14, 2017 10:16 pm
by Drop Your Pants » Sat Apr 15, 2017 1:14 am
by Antiochus Denral » Sun Apr 16, 2017 1:41 pm
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