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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Ban Pho
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Postby Ban Pho » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:20 am

Gim wrote:
Ban Pho wrote:Yet, that coup ended the reign of Syngman Rhee, who founded the right-wing ideology, Ilminism.


Well, he did a great deal of election rigging. That was the problem, not his right-wing policies.

Digging your own grave: right-wing edition

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Postby Gim » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:29 am

Ban Pho wrote:
Gim wrote:
Well, he did a great deal of election rigging. That was the problem, not his right-wing policies.

Digging your own grave: right-wing edition


What do you mean?
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Postby Ban Pho » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:31 am

Gim wrote:
Ban Pho wrote:Digging your own grave: right-wing edition


What do you mean?

He was right-wing, but he rigged the elections, giving rise to a right-wing coup.

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Postby Questers » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:57 am

I'll finish the drug thing later, but my experience being in places where prostitution is openly tolerated or legal leads me to believe that no it should not be legal and the police should prosecute prostitutes, pimps, and customers.
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Postby Gim » Sat Mar 25, 2017 4:57 am

Ban Pho wrote:
Gim wrote:
What do you mean?

He was right-wing, but he rigged the elections, giving rise to a right-wing coup.


Ah, I see.
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Postby Questers » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:06 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

No. What happens between consenting individuals in private is their business, so long as money is not involved. Once money is involved, however, it becomes a business and public "service," and is therefore within the purview of the State. Prostitution is inherently coercive insofar as that the person hiring the prostitute holds some advantage over them (i.e. they have money that the prostitute can only get by performing the "service" desired) and is therefore not comparable to other matters of private sexual morality where my personal inclinations may be conservative but where I would not seek to interfere with other people's decisions due to my somewhat libertarian-leaning attitude to State intervention in people's personal lives. The same goes for pornography, which should also be illegalised.

The argument that "it will still happen whether illegal or not" is a terrible argument against any law.
Spot on!

Prostitution is a commercial activity first and foremost.

Also I agree about pornography.
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Postby Kekonistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:09 am

CHILEAN COUP
START UP THE CHOPPERS
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:10 am

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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:22 am

I'm going to go with Korea. Because two reasons Chile is overused as a right wing anyting and Korea is actually something now and not just in right wing circles
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:23 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

No. What happens between consenting individuals in private is their business, so long as money is not involved. Once money is involved, however, it becomes a business and public "service," and is therefore within the purview of the State. Prostitution is inherently coercive insofar as that the person hiring the prostitute holds some advantage over them (i.e. they have money that the prostitute can only get by performing the "service" desired) and is therefore not comparable to other matters of private sexual morality where my personal inclinations may be conservative but where I would not seek to interfere with other people's decisions due to my somewhat libertarian-leaning attitude to State intervention in people's personal lives. The same goes for pornography, which should also be illegalised.

The argument that "it will still happen whether illegal or not" is a terrible argument against any law.

Oh hell no! You aren't going to take my porn.
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:27 am

Chile is one big stale meme.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:33 am

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Chile is one big stale meme.

Which is why I chose SK over Chile. Chile has been done and the done some more in fact I think Chile has been over done
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Postby Kekonistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:I'm going to go with Korea. Because two reasons Chile is overused as a right wing anyting and Korea is actually something now and not just in right wing circles

Chile?
Overused?

We still have some choppers rotting away.

So it is not overused at all.
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:36 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Chile is one big stale meme.

Which is why I chose SK over Chile. Chile has been done and the done some more in fact I think Chile has been over done

But do you know the details of the coup?
Kekonistan wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm going to go with Korea. Because two reasons Chile is overused as a right wing anyting and Korea is actually something now and not just in right wing circles

Chile?
Overused?

We still have some choppers rotting away.

So it is not overused at all.
Literally proving the point that Chile is overused.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:37 am

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Which is why I chose SK over Chile. Chile has been done and the done some more in fact I think Chile has been over done

But do you know the details of the coup?

SK or Chile?
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:38 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:But do you know the details of the coup?

SK or Chile?

South Korea.
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Postby Kekonistan » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:41 am

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Literally proving the point that Chile is overused.

Freedom isn't free. The oil reserves need to decline in order to fuel the helicopters. Ok? 1433not 1488.

Praise Pinochet
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:42 am

Kekonistan wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Literally proving the point that Chile is overused.

Freedom isn't free. The oil reserves need to decline in order to fuel the helicopters. Ok? 1433not 1488.

Praise Pinochet

Yes, I too had an edgy phase.

As you're Aulus, I'd give it a month before you change ideology once more.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Mar 25, 2017 5:44 am

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:SK or Chile?

South Korea.

It was basically over a rigged election. Syngman Rhee rigged elections and got booted for it.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:00 am

Mattopilos II wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
It indeed has limited its spread. Just as the severe repression of gays has and in some places in the ME still does. Whether or not it has any utility or gives a benefit is another argument entirely.


The question then becomes why you want to suppress people in the same manner homosexuals are in the ME. That, and what the actual issue you have with prostitution is - is it the crime it brings with it, or a religious reason?


Again, the problem isn't that I support doing this. We were discussing whether it could be done. Whether we could or should are two seperate arguments entirely.

Thermodolia wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
If it doesn't work why were your lot crying about oppression? It's a false belief of modern liberalism that you can't suppress things with enough force. It's in the realm of myths like "pro-american middle class just waiting to be liberated". It sounds very nice but simply isn't true.

I don't think you even know what my lot is as I'm basically a libertarian.


It says in your Sig you are gay.

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Postby The East Marches II » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:00 am

Kekonistan wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:Literally proving the point that Chile is overused.

Freedom isn't free. The oil reserves need to decline in order to fuel the helicopters. Ok? 1433not 1488.

Praise Pinochet
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Postby Individual Thought Patterns » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:01 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I don't think you even know what my lot is as I'm basically a libertarian.


It says in your Sig you are gay.

destroyed
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Postby Gim » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:01 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:South Korea.

It was basically over a rigged election. Syngman Rhee rigged elections and got booted for it.


The First Republic is the name I recall, I believe.
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Postby Peta Kozarska Brigada » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:03 am

Individual Thought Patterns wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
It says in your Sig you are gay.

destroyed

annihilated
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Postby Gim » Sat Mar 25, 2017 6:04 am

Peta Kozarska Brigada wrote:
Individual Thought Patterns wrote:destroyed

annihilated

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