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Favourite Right-Wing Revolution/Uprising/Coup?

War In The Vendée, 1793 (France)
8
7%
Southern Secession, 1860 (USA)
18
15%
Boxer Rebellion, 1899 (China)
6
5%
March On Rome, 1922 (Italy)
15
12%
National Revolution, 1926 (Portugal)
1
1%
Spanish Nationalist Coup, 1936 (Spain)
16
13%
May 16 Coup, 1961 (S. Korea)
5
4%
Chilean Coup, 1973 (Chile)
14
11%
Autumn Of Nations, 1989 (International)
29
24%
Other (Please State)
11
9%
 
Total votes : 123

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:55 pm

Greater USA wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Fund hospitals and rehabilitation centers with the drug tax money


That could work, but I'm also concerned about drugs being widely accessible in the community to kids and teens. Especially in inner city areas. I know where I live there are a lot of seedy spots were heroin and LSD are accessible, and this negatively affects downtown life in a noticeable way.

What I'd like to see is law enforcement aggressively cracking down on the drug trade, but primarily focusing on who does the smuggling. If old Joe down the street with a family of 4 has some crack, we shouldn't ruin his life or do an overblown SWAT raid. But the drugs should be confiscated, and he should be expected to give information as to where the drugs came from (with protection for the family for safety concerns).


Well, legalizing it and regulating age restrictions would curb the illegal drug trade since there would be legal shops.

You could just crack down on unlicensed drug shops/dealers rather than the entire industry in general. It's a much more narrow enemy to deal with.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:56 pm

Greater USA wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Fund hospitals and rehabilitation centers with the drug tax money


That could work, but I'm also concerned about drugs being widely accessible in the community to kids and teens. Especially in inner city areas. I know where I live there are a lot of seedy spots were heroin and LSD are accessible, and this negatively affects downtown life in a noticeable way.

What I'd like to see is law enforcement aggressively cracking down on the drug trade, but primarily focusing on who does the smuggling. If old Joe down the street with a family of 4 has some crack, we shouldn't ruin his life or do an overblown SWAT raid. But the drugs should be confiscated, and he should be expected to give information as to where the drugs came from (with protection for the family for safety concerns).

Well if you legalized them they would be getting their drugs in a back alley but in a drugstore where everything can be regulated. Also the store could refuse to serve you while high like they do to those who have had to much to drink
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Postby Hakons » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:56 pm

Christian Traditionalism.

It's why I consider myself conservative now. I used to be liberal, then centrist, and now conservative. It was all relative to how seriously I took my Christianity.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:58 pm

Hakons wrote:Christian Traditionalism.

It's why I consider myself conservative now. I used to be liberal, then centrist, and now conservative. It was all relative to how seriously I took my Christianity.

Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:58 pm

Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:59 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


Why not? Let the prostitutes care about their arses.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 7:59 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

I agree down to the exact wording
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:00 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hakons wrote:Christian Traditionalism.

It's why I consider myself conservative now. I used to be liberal, then centrist, and now conservative. It was all relative to how seriously I took my Christianity.

Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.


You will start a shitstorm. Don't call it a grave, it's the future your chose.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:00 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


Explain which sort of prostitution you're speaking of.

I am okay with allowing prostitutes to work as independent contractors or sole proprietors of one-person "companies". Meaning, ban pimping.

I am not okay with the model where pimps are allowed to hire prostitutes.
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:00 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

Yep. Safe, legal, unionised.
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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


My puritan inclinations or my consistency, this is quite the dilemma.

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Postby Luminesa » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:01 pm

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

No. Prostitution is disgusting, and another sign that our culture has failed women at large.

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:02 pm

Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


Explain which sort of prostitution you're speaking of.

I am okay with allowing prostitutes to work as independent contractors. Meaning, ban pimping.

I am not okay with the model where pimps are allowed to hire prostitutes.

Well they can be independent or can organize themselves into a larger organization.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm

Napkiraly wrote:
Soldati Senza Confini wrote:
Explain which sort of prostitution you're speaking of.

I am okay with allowing prostitutes to work as independent contractors. Meaning, ban pimping.

I am not okay with the model where pimps are allowed to hire prostitutes.

Well they can be independent or can organize themselves into a larger organization.


This organization though would have to be similar, in my opinion, to a chamber of commerce/union/syndicate where they can have a collective bargaining power at the local, state, and national level.

Otherwise, I agree.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.


You will start a shitstorm. Don't call it a grave, it's the future your chose.

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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:05 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

Yep. Safe, legal, unionised.


Sorry but I can't take a Prostitutes' Union seriously.

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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:06 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

No. Prostitution is disgusting, and another sign that our culture has failed women at large.

Fite me.

The Church used to own a lot of brothels. Also it allows them to be safe and clean compared to being underground where that is prevented. You end up helping some of the most disadvantaged people this way.

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Postby Hakons » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:06 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hakons wrote:Christian Traditionalism.

It's why I consider myself conservative now. I used to be liberal, then centrist, and now conservative. It was all relative to how seriously I took my Christianity.

Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.


Liberalism has severely decayed Church moral authority and has resulted in the break down of the family structure. The left is inhabited by many individuals that would love nothing more than see the extinction of Christianity.

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


If this is in America, it should be decided by the states. I'm against it because it turns women into a commodity. It also promotes adultery and leads to break downs in marriages and higher divorce rates.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.

No. Prostitution is disgusting, and another sign that our culture has failed women at large.

Fite me.

Prostitution isn't just for women it's an equal opportunity employer
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Postby Theodosios » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Hakons wrote:Christian Traditionalism.

It's why I consider myself conservative now. I used to be liberal, then centrist, and now conservative. It was all relative to how seriously I took my Christianity.

Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.

Liberal "Christianity" is nothing more than heresy.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 pm

Hakons wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Several liberal Christians would like to have a word with you.


Liberalism has severely decayed Church moral authority and has resulted in the break down of the family structure. The left is inhabited by many individuals that would love nothing more than see the extinction of Christianity.

Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


If this is in America, it should be decided by the states. I'm against it because it turns women into a commodity. It also promotes adultery and leads to break downs in marriages and higher divorce rates.


Adultery is going to happen anyways, prostitution or not.

I must presume you have never checked your local Craigslist personal ads, have you?
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Postby Napkiraly » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:07 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Should prostitution be legal, RWDT? Y/N

Personally, I say yes. Safer for the workers and it'll divert money away from organized crime.


My puritan inclinations or my consistency, this is quite the dilemma.

If they make tons of money from it, then God is rewarding their activities thus making it okay in the eyes of God. Especially if it leads to men no longer seducing the wives of their neighbors.

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:08 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Yep. Safe, legal, unionised.


Sorry but I can't take a Prostitutes' Union seriously.

"The Minarchistan Times: Prostitutes' Union demand a 10% real increase in their hourly wages. Cops arrive 40 minutes later, beating their arses down"

Sounds like you should write porn
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Postby Bakery Hill » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:08 pm

Great Minarchistan wrote:
Bakery Hill wrote:Yep. Safe, legal, unionised.


Sorry but I can't take a Prostitutes' Union seriously.

"The Minarchistan Times: Prostitutes' Union demand a 10% real increase in their hourly wages. Cops arrive 40 minutes later, beating their arses down"

Why can't you? They're workers, they have the capacity do so, they have done so in the past. And cops will want to be careful if they go around bashing unionised workers.
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Postby Great Minarchistan » Fri Mar 24, 2017 8:09 pm

Bakery Hill wrote:
Great Minarchistan wrote:
Sorry but I can't take a Prostitutes' Union seriously.

"The Minarchistan Times: Prostitutes' Union demand a 10% real increase in their hourly wages. Cops arrive 40 minutes later, beating their arses down"

Why can't you? They're workers, they have the capacity do so, they have done so in the past. And cops will want to be careful if they go around bashing unionised workers.


If cops are going to surrender to unions, then Zombie Reagan will take the Presidency and fire all prostitute public servants.
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