The Roman Empire

[Roman Office of Information]

The Roman Empire

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The Patricians of Rome:
Emperor: Plagentine
Legatus: Festavo the Enigma
Legatus: Noblus Maximus
Legatus: Kyorgia

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The Roman Empire is a raider region dedicated to fighting defenders, natives, and other enemies and traitors of the raider cause. We greatly value the concepts of camaraderie and community, and commit ourselves to spreading the ideas of raiding throughout the game. This empire has been reforged from a previously broken community, and prepares itself to seize greater victories and triumphs in the future. Long live the Roman Empire, long live the Emperor!

[Cormactopia Prime]

The Roman Empire is a raider region dedicated to fighting defenders, natives, and other enemies and traitors of the raider cause.

Gest's influence is already apparent in the very first post.

Why are you harboring the person responsible for the destruction of two raider regions due to rule-breaking that occurred under his watch?

[Ikania]

And furthermore, this reeks of purism. I'd really like to participate in the region and its strong cultural background if the entire raison d'être wasn't to exterminate defenders.

[Plagentine]

The Roman Empire is a raider region dedicated to fighting defenders, natives, and other enemies and traitors of the raider cause.

Gest's influence is already apparent in the very first post.

Why are you harboring the person responsible for the destruction of two raider regions due to rule-breaking that occurred under his watch?

The focus of the region remains the same as in Firehelm, not sure what you're talking about. Also Gest is not a member of TRE, he's just chilling with us on the discord. Regardless of that, i do not care to go into an argument of TBR and DEN and who is responsible for what, mostly because that would be threadjacking.

[Thorn1000]

The Roman Empire is a raider region dedicated to fighting defenders, natives, and other enemies and traitors of the raider cause.

Gest's influence is already apparent in the very first post.

Why are you harboring the person responsible for the destruction of two raider regions due to rule-breaking that occurred under his watch?

There seems to be no problem when he was in firehelm and he is in TI right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Cormac I not even know what side you align with right now but I'm sure it will change in a week so if you do not like us know I know it will change very quickly

And furthermore, this reeks of purism. I'd really like to participate in the region and its strong cultural background if the entire raison d'être wasn't to exterminate defenders.

You have switched sides at least 4 times yourself. I consider firmly knowing where your alliences lay being infinitely better than burnt as wishy-washy as you.

[Nakari]

There seems to be no problem when he was in firehelm and he is in TI right now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

People absolutely had a problem with that, there were just bigger problems with TI

[Sygmund]

And furthermore, this reeks of purism. I'd really like to participate in the region and its strong cultural background if the entire raison d'être wasn't to exterminate defenders.

Oh, of course, you would say that being in a region who will go to any extent to exterminate raiders.

People absolutely had a problem with that, there were just bigger problems with TI

I'll be quite frank with you and say that nobody but defenders that like to get in everyone's business really cared or had a problem with that.

[Ikania]

You have switched sides at least 4 times yourself. I consider firmly knowing where your alliences lay being infinitely better than burnt as wishy-washy as you.

Your point being... ?

Oh, of course, you would say that being in a region who will go to any extent to exterminate raiders.

The Roman Empire, if you haven't noticed, has separate applications for military and citizenship. Participating in a Roman-themed UCR would be pretty cool. No one gives two shits about Dragon Age. And that's completely beside the point, we're happy to have raiders in our own Discord, because it's fun, and we get along. The purist stench emanating from TRE seems to fly in the face of a simple rule: be cool.

I'll be quite frank with you and say that nobody but defenders that like to get in everyone's business really cared or had a problem with that.

I think people with common sense tend to have a problem with that, given what Cormac said, and what I've seen come out of Gest. Does he text his mother with that keyboard?

[Sygmund]

The Roman Empire, if you haven't noticed, has separate applications for military and citizenship. Participating in a Roman-themed UCR would be pretty cool. No one gives two shits about Dragon Age. And that's completely beside the point, we're happy to have raiders in our own Discord, because it's fun, and we get along. The purist stench emanating from TRE seems to fly in the face of a simple rule: be cool.

If you haven't noticed, I wasn't talking at all about their applications. I was addressing your ridiculous point of "this reeks of purism... the region and its strong cultural background [is] to exterminate defenders." It doesn't matter that you allow raiders into your discord (do you though?), it's still an idea that the Grey Wardens have literally built themselves on. Clearly you can't handle a little propaganda.

be cool.

It's not cool to denounce something that you turn around and practice. Hypocrisy isn't cool.

[Ikania]

If you haven't noticed, I wasn't talking at all about their applications. I was addressing your ridiculous point of "this reeks of purism... the region and its strong cultural background [is] to exterminate defenders." It doesn't matter that you allow raiders into your discord (do you though?), it's still an idea that the Grey Wardens have literally built themselves on. Clearly you can't handle a little propaganda.

I don't like the kind of propaganda that twists people's minds and turns them against any and all defenders and 'moderates' like this rotten ideology does so I'm sure as hell wary of any sign of purism. I see this region as more than just raiders, it seems like a good UCR culture in the making, unlike the Wardens which is a defender organization and nothing more. So try considering that for a moment before you accuse me of hypocrisy from atop your high horse.

[Witchcraft and Sorcery]

Ooooo a new raider org. Spicy. I look forward to sniping your raids very soon

I'll be honest. Putting myself in a raider's shoes I perfectly understand the nature of "fighting defenders." That's what raiders do. It should be a given. Raiders and defenders have been fighting each other as long as this game has existed and I don't necessarily see the purism in a raider organization coming out and saying that. That being said, Ike is absolutely right. The line is crossed when a glimmer of hope is squashed by a proverbial mountain of vitriolic raider chest-beating. Not only is that no fun but it's a little dangerous, for obvious reasons. Both to raiders and defenders. To me that is part of what bred all the cheating. But i recognize that this is probably not the time or place to have that discussion. Propaganda is cool. A little lighthearted trolling is cool. So I'll withhold judgment for now. I hope it doesn't turn into what Cormac or Ike have rightly expressed concerns about.

I'll be a defender as long as I play this game but I don't hate raiders. Y'all can be really cool. But please, please, for the love of God don't suck the fun out of it with more vitriolic crap. What goes around comes around, friends.

Much love, W&S

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Plenty of raider groups that have never had any ties to TBR/DEN/Cora/Gest/(whatever everyone is expected to turn into gibbering idiots about now) have explicit ideals about trying to get rid of defenders. This isn't some new thing to get horrified about, you're just fishing for something to get upset about because you don't like the people involved. Members of Roman Empire would do well not to engage in this thread at all.

[Sygmund]

I don't like the kind of propaganda that twists people's minds and turns them against any and all defenders and 'moderates' like this rotten ideology does so I'm sure as hell wary of any sign of purism.

Does being a defender justify the fact that the Grey Wardens use that same propaganda? (Of course, replacing "any and all defenders and 'moderates'" with "invaders"). Nah. If you can't handle a bit of propaganda, I haven't the slightest clue how you manage to stay still there. The "purist" mindset has been around for a long time, even before Cora's devastation of the phrase. This isn't really new.

I see this region as more than just raiders, it seems like a good UCR culture in the making, unlike the Wardens which is a defender organization and nothing more.

I don't know about that. Maybe so, if you also include that they spread the exact same ideology (defender purism, whatever you want to call it) that is harboured by the Grey Wardens. Honestly though, this doesn't surprise me. You'll be raiding by next week.

So try considering that for a moment before you accuse me of hypocrisy from atop your high horse.

Silly you, hawks don't need to ride horses.

Sunshine and birdseed,

Sygian

Edit: Sort of ninjad by Ava.

[Tim-Opolis]

Big fan of the theme, though not as huge about some of the company and ideals, but such is life. Wishing you guys the best of luck and hoping you don't get overwhelmed by the same toxicity we saw prevalent in other regions.

[Cormactopia Prime]

Plenty of raider groups that have never had any ties to TBR/DEN/Cora/Gest/(whatever everyone is expected to turn into gibbering idiots about now) have explicit ideals about trying to get rid of defenders. This isn't some new thing to get horrified about, you're just fishing for something to get upset about because you don't like the people involved. Members of Roman Empire would do well not to engage in this thread at all.

To be clear, I didn't have a problem with The Roman Empire being a region "dedicated to fighting defenders." Because duh. I also didn't have much of an issue with them including natives, because while I personally don't agree with griefing and thus obviously prefer raiders who are relatively neutral in their effect on natives, plenty of other raiders unfortunately engage in griefing and it's not at all unusual since regional influence was implemented.

Where I most felt Gest's influence was in the phrase "other enemies and traitors of the raider cause." This sounds like a reworded version of the "moderate traitors" The Black Riders and DEN went on and on about, which led to the kind of anti-Moderation extremism that certain delete-on-sight former players and 94 Block embraced. Gest was still spouting that nonsense just a few months ago (and probably still is) on The Invaders' Discord server to anyone who would listen, which was why I bailed from The Invaders in a hurry shortly after joining them, and it's disappointing and a little alarming to see ambiguous "enemies and traitors of the raider cause" mentioned in The Roman Empire's inaugural post in Gameplay. I would prefer not to see The Roman Empire and who knows who else caught up in another one of the rule-breaking scandals Gest's extremism generates. Don't end up like The Black Riders and DEN.

[Ikania]

I don't like the kind of propaganda that twists people's minds and turns them against any and all defenders and 'moderates' like this rotten ideology does so I'm sure as hell wary of any sign of purism.

Does being a defender justify the fact that the Grey Wardens use that same propaganda? (Of course, replacing "any and all defenders and 'moderates'" with "invaders"). Nah. If you can't handle a bit of propaganda, I haven't the slightest clue how you manage to stay still there. The "purist" mindset has been around for a long time, even before Cora's devastation of the phrase. This isn't really new.

I see this region as more than just raiders, it seems like a good UCR culture in the making, unlike the Wardens which is a defender organization and nothing more.

I don't know about that. Maybe so, if you also include that they spread the exact same ideology (defender purism, whatever you want to call it) that is harboured by the Grey Wardens. Honestly though, this doesn't surprise me. You'll be raiding by next week.

Such an original line.

Last I checked, the Grey Wardens aren't defender purists of any sort, and we gladly welcome all former raiders to the flock. Regardless of how long it's been around or how much propaganda you think it is, purism isn't any less cancerous a belief and a practice. The idea that TGW, its leadership or its membership, demonizes the character of present or former raiders simply for the way they do R/D, labelling them traitors and judging them negatively for it, is a complete falsehood and based entirely in fiction. In fact, a decent bulk of our ranks are comprised of former raiders of some sort. We very much enjoy the #madbantz that the raiders in our Discord give us, especially in VC.

Should take some pointers from fendas in how to have fun. Relax a bit. Stop letting that tribalistic mindset get in the way of a good time.

[Brother Snow]

Good luck Plagentine and crew with your new home in The Roman Empire. I personally enjoy the sound of your mission statement. You're off to a good start and I look forward to your raids!. I imagine I'll be popping by since any enemy of defenders and moderates is a friend of mine.

[Chelvo]

Calm down, young ones. I mean, we are glad about the salt filling our mines without having actually to do anything, but a discussion whether or not purism is an acceptable position or not would belong in a different place. Please follow suit and do not pollute our grand introduction, thank you very much.

And on another note, this old priest here announces that the gods good will is upon the Roman Empire.

[Kyorgia]

Should take some pointers from fendas in how to have fun. Relax a bit. Stop letting that tribalistic mindset get in the way of a good time.

You play the game however you want and we play the game however we want. Problem solved

[Vaculatestar64]

So much whining about the inner workings of another region. Ike, go mind your own business, you act like you're the pinnacle of NS politician however of everyone commenting here, including me, you have the most baggage on you. I'll be glad to join this region, in fact, I already have.

[Vaculatestar64]

So much whining about the inner workings of another region. Ike, go mind your own business, you act like you're the pinnacle of NS politician however of everyone commenting here, including me, you have the most baggage on you, except for MAYBE Cormac. I'll be glad to join this region, in fact, I already have.

[Tim-Opolis]

So, after recent actions by Censor Thorn1000 that occurred earlier this morning, I've got to say that it seems my faith was misplaced. What assurances, if any, do we have at this point to believe that the toxicity that has consumed previous regions in that sub-section of the invader circles isn't going to consume this place. The aforementioned actions, in addition with keeping folks like Gest and Attero around, don't really inspire much faith in this region anymore.

[Solorni]

The rise and fall of the Roman Empire?

[Zaolat]

The rise and fall of the Roman Empire?

Rome didn't fall in just a day you know?

[Ikania]

So much whining about the inner workings of another region. Ike, go mind your own business, you act like you're the pinnacle of NS politician however of everyone commenting here, including me, you have the most baggage on you. I'll be glad to join this region, in fact, I already have.

cash me ousside howbow dah

The basic problem is that toxicity spills. It is an absolutely horrid idea to let the views and words of people like Block and Gest proliferate, not because it has to do completely with your region, but it affects ours as well. It's a community thing. Toxicity spreads. Not just about raiding and defending, but the division being sowed in NS and the kinds of people who relish that kind of thing. The head needs to be cut off. Tolerating people who have said and done things like they have, and I hope to God I don't have to point to logs for you to get the point, is unhealthy for everyone in the community and only enables further toxicity.