by Lamebrainia » Wed Mar 08, 2017 3:58 am
by Phydios » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:22 am
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Skylus » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:24 am
by Phydios » Wed Mar 08, 2017 6:32 am
Skylus wrote:It's for if you have no current issues, I think.
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Trotterdam » Wed Mar 08, 2017 8:44 am
by Candlewhisper Archive » Wed Mar 08, 2017 10:03 am
by Lamebrainia » Thu Mar 09, 2017 12:35 am
I have been previously told in this very thread that questions about getting an issue/option you think you shouldn't get are to be directed elsewhere, but, unfortunately, I have not retained the link.Phydios wrote:I think that the "fix old issues" megathread in Got Issues would be a good place to go. Could you elaborate on your other problem, though?
Thank you, kind sir. That answers my question, I am very grateful. How do you know all this? I've been playing for years and I had no idea.Trotterdam wrote:According to your nation page, you have outlawed private enterprise.
Having a high Economic Freedom (and thus qualifying for Capitalist Paradise) without private enterprise is difficult, but it is possible. It simply means that your nation is weird. All economic activity is controlled by the government, but the government is very committed to doing whatever it takes to keep the economy strong.
Note that your Economic Freedom, while displaying as -26.33, is really 73.67 internally, with a -100 modifier for banning private enterprise.
Sometimes I scare myself too :-D At one stage, my nation's category was "Anarchy", but according to its description the country was run by a conglomerate of merchants, while the other bit claimed biker gangs roamed the streets and no government existed.Candlewhisper Archive wrote:What Trotterdam says. Weeeeird nation.
You're correct that the issue is coded to appear only for nations that have gotten rid of capitalism.
You're also correct in that the freedoms you grant categorise you as a Capitalist Paradise.
So there you have it: you're a nation that identifies itself as communist and has outlawed capitalism, that happens to be a corporation-friendly paradise for capitalists. Sounds like real life China to me!
by Candlewhisper Archive » Thu Mar 09, 2017 1:40 am
by Lamebrainia » Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:27 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The Anarchy description of biker gangs is definitely an odd one, as it's based purely on your nation category, which in turn is based purely on your civil rights, political and economic freedoms. That means you can still get that category if you have massive police spending, no crime, a well enforced ban on all automobiles and a happy and law abiding population.
In fact, as the simulation has MOST nations as being entirely crime free (something I've often said needs fixing) and as most nations tend towards freedom, there's actually a lot of law-abiding Anarchies out there.
by USS Monitor » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:18 am
Lamebrainia wrote:Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The Anarchy description of biker gangs is definitely an odd one, as it's based purely on your nation category, which in turn is based purely on your civil rights, political and economic freedoms. That means you can still get that category if you have massive police spending, no crime, a well enforced ban on all automobiles and a happy and law abiding population.
In fact, as the simulation has MOST nations as being entirely crime free (something I've often said needs fixing) and as most nations tend towards freedom, there's actually a lot of law-abiding Anarchies out there.
That's quite peculiar and something I did not know either... Is there any way for us mortals to get more of an idea of how those things work? A wiki or a statistical table, perhaps? Or are those things something I'd notice myself were I paying more attention to how my nation's descriptions and statistics change based on what I do?
by Aclion » Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:21 am
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The Anarchy description of biker gangs is definitely an odd one, as it's based purely on your nation category, which in turn is based purely on your civil rights, political and economic freedoms. That means you can still get that category if you have massive police spending, no crime, a well enforced ban on all automobiles and a happy and law abiding population.
In fact, as the simulation has MOST nations as being entirely crime free (something I've often said needs fixing) and as most nations tend towards freedom, there's actually a lot of law-abiding Anarchies out there.
by Drayxaso » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:22 pm
Candlewhisper Archive wrote:The Anarchy description of biker gangs is definitely an odd one, as it's based purely on your nation category, which in turn is based purely on your civil rights, political and economic freedoms. That means you can still get that category if you have massive police spending, no crime, a well enforced ban on all automobiles and a happy and law abiding population.
In fact, as the simulation has MOST nations as being entirely crime free (something I've often said needs fixing) and as most nations tend towards freedom, there's actually a lot of law-abiding Anarchies out there.
The Great Devourer of All wrote:"Bring the ship about, helmsman! The Klingons are firing on us!"
"I can't, sir! My knees hurt like hell and my back is cramped in a thousand places. The Klingons might as well put me out of my misery!"
Neanderthaland wrote:Looks like the DPRK is in need of a new buyer. Someone more aligned to their political philosophy.
Now if only there were someone out there who needed massive amounts of coal. Someone with a cult of personality and a keen interest in surveillance. Someone who sees you when your sleeping. Who knows when you're awake.
by Barapam » Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:27 pm
Skylus wrote:It's for if you have no current issues, I think.
by Lamebrainia » Sat Mar 11, 2017 4:59 am
Aclion wrote:Please don't fix that, it makes me smile every day.
I don't have a problem with any of that - in fact, I am a big fan of that paragraph myself, and I've missed it a lot since a ton of new issues was added that has been preventing me from achieving Anarchy like before (not that it was an easy task in the past). Where I fail to strike a logical correlation is between "there is no government in the common sense of the word" (citation from memory) and any mention of said government in the next paragraphs ("the country is ruled by business-minded individuals" - again, a citation from memory).Drayxaso wrote:But what if they're law-abiding bicycle gangs?
Thank you. I am glad to hear someone's had that same issue, and I am not imagining things like usually.
by Trotterdam » Sat Mar 11, 2017 12:16 pm
Well, what are uncommon senses of the word?Lamebrainia wrote:"there is no government in the common sense of the word" (citation from memory)
by Phydios » Sat Mar 11, 2017 1:59 pm
Trotterdam wrote:Well, what are uncommon senses of the word?Lamebrainia wrote:"there is no government in the common sense of the word" (citation from memory)
That line is not part of the Anarchy description, though. Rather, it's the start of the second paragraph for nations with very small governments, which continues "There is no government in the normal sense of the word; however, a small group of community-minded individuals [...]". It should be mutually exclusive with anything that sounds like what you claim to have seen later, though it's capable of contradicting category descriptions (Farther Knows Best State, Capitalist Paradise, and Corporate Bordello all include the words "ruled by", the latter being only a few civil rights away from Anarchy, and other categories mention "government"), and probably some issue effect lines.
If you claim to be religious but don’t control your tongue, you are fooling yourself, and your religion is worthless. Pure and genuine religion in the sight of God the Father means caring for orphans and widows in their distress and refusing to let the world corrupt you. | Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’James 1:26-27, Matthew 7:21-23
by Lamebrainia » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:05 am
Trotterdam wrote:That line is not part of the Anarchy description, though. Rather, it's the start of the second paragraph for nations with very small governments, which continues "There is no government in the normal sense of the word; however, a small group of community-minded individuals [...]". It should be mutually exclusive with anything that sounds like what you claim to have seen later, though it's capable of contradicting category descriptions (Farther Knows Best State, Capitalist Paradise, and Corporate Bordello all include the words "ruled by", the latter being only a few civil rights away from Anarchy, and other categories mention "government"), and probably some issue effect lines.
That means I am mixing things up. I apologise.Phydios wrote:It also appears for nations with a Government Size of 0. Probably because if there was literally no government, then there would be no government leader- no you (the player).
by Lamebrainia » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:24 am
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