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Postby Novus America » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:01 am

Alvecia wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Is their an AU mandate thata country has to be a democracy then?

The wikipedia page has this as one of it's Objective:
To promote democratic principles and institutions, popular participation and good governance.

Gambia is a member, which is presumably why they are getting involved.


Yet the AU also includes Sudan, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea and Zimbabwe, amongst others.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:02 am

Novus America wrote:
Alvecia wrote:The wikipedia page has this as one of it's Objective:

Gambia is a member, which is presumably why they are getting involved.


Yet the AU also includes Sudan, Eritrea, Equatorial Guinea and Zimbabwe, amongst others.

Yeah, I dunno. Seem pretty inconsistent. And like I said, Mugabe was the chairperson only recently, so....

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:08 am

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CoraSpia wrote:In fact, Jammeh's situation isn't exactly unique, which makes me wonder why the strong response to this and no others?

Mugabe was the head of the AU from 2015 to 2016. Might have something to do with it.

Mugabe has been being Mugabe for a lot longer than that though. Seems like it's personally motivated.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:09 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Mugabe was the head of the AU from 2015 to 2016. Might have something to do with it.

Mugabe has been being Mugabe for a lot longer than that though. Seems like it's personally motivated.

Could be something as simple as the AU trying to be more involved and pro-active.
I dunno, it'll be interesting to keep an eye on.

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:10 am

Does this mean that the Presidents alternative medical program will stop?
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:14 am

CoraSpia wrote:Does this mean that the Presidents alternative medical program will stop?

Shit I didn't even know about that. I hope so.

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Postby Novus America » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:30 am

CoraSpia wrote:Does this mean that the Presidents alternative medical program will stop?


You mean the claims to cure HIV and blood pressure with bananas and vitamins? One can only hope the new guy is not as much of a batshit crazy loony as Jammeh.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:41 am

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CoraSpia wrote:Does this mean that the Presidents alternative medical program will stop?

Shit I didn't even know about that. I hope so.

He's a 'professor' apparently, so it must work. He's also a defender of the faith and a builder of bridges, as well as a sheikh and an excellency. Oh, and richer than the Gambia itself.
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Postby Minoa » Thu Jan 19, 2017 8:57 am

Dakran wrote:This is a very confusing story. So last count is that he refuses to step down then or...?

Yahya Jammeh has double flip-flopped and continue with his desperate measures to stay in power.
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:39 am

Alvecia wrote:It's kind of exciting to hear the African Union getting involved here.
I mean, I knew they existed, but up until now I hadn't really heard much from them.

Well, they are making a serious effort in Somalia btw.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:41 am

Risottia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:It's kind of exciting to hear the African Union getting involved here.
I mean, I knew they existed, but up until now I hadn't really heard much from them.

Well, they are making a serious effort in Somalia btw.

I did not know that.

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Postby Pope Joan » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:47 am

Minoa wrote:Sources: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-38662000 and http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-gambia ... KKBN1520NM

Outgoing Gambian President, Yahya Jammeh, is so desperate to stay in power, that he has gone as far as to declare a state of emergency and impose a 90-day term extension, after creating a Supreme Court case to try and overturn the election result. This is a sharp contrast to his initial decision to simply respect the election result in which Adama Barrow won.

Attempts by ECOWAS (Economic Community of West African States) to get Jammeh to step down, with what little of his reputation being intact, have failed. Now, ECOWAS, after getting the OK from the African Union, have threatened to deploy a Senegal-led force to remove Jammeh, if he does not step down soon. Thousands of Gambians have already fled the country, and countries like the UK and the Netherlands have recalled all their tourists.

Given his human rights record before the election, Yahya Jammeh simply has to go. Jammeh is risking running his reputation and his country to the ground if he continues to come up with desperate measures to stay in power, despite Adama Barrow (currently in Senegal but vowing to return to the Gambia tomorrow to start his presidency) about to be recognised as the sole legitimate President of the Gambia by virtually everyone but the closest of Jammeh’s allies.

Jammeh, who seized power in a coup back in ’94, did also have a bit of a cult of personality, putting his portrait on all dalasi banknotes issued since 15 April 2015: before then they had representative portraits of Gambian people.

What are your thoughts about Mr. Yahya Jammeh and his desperate attempts to stay in power?

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Postby San Marlindo » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:51 am

Alvecia wrote:
Risottia wrote:Well, they are making a serious effort in Somalia btw.

I did not know that.


Yeah, AMISOM is what they call the AU military mission in Somalia. It's mostly made up of personnel from four countries: Kenya, Uganda, Ethiopia, and Burundi. Great way for these nations to get some combat experience for their otherwise inexperienced national armed forces.

However, they can't afford to sustain that deployment on their own; they're dependent on the EU for funding.

Most pan-African military missions are dependent on foreign funding. FOMAC (Central African Republic) is another example of one which relies heavily on the EU to cover the costs of their continued deployment.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:51 am

Minoa wrote:
Dakran wrote:This is a very confusing story. So last count is that he refuses to step down then or...?

Yahya Jammeh has double flip-flopped and continue with his desperate measures to stay in power.

...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:53 am

Luziyca wrote:
Minoa wrote:Yahya Jammeh has double flip-flopped and continue with his desperate measures to stay in power.

...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.

Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:58 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.

Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.

They have a shared culture, history, they previously had a loose political union, and the Gambia is virtually surrounded by Senegal, with much of the Senegal's transport links going through the Gambia.
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Postby San Marlindo » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:58 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.

Why would they annex the Gambia?


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Postby Risottia » Thu Jan 19, 2017 9:58 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.

Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.


You forgot to mention the "imperialist pig-dogs" somewhere.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:00 am

Luziyca wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.

They have a shared culture, history, they previously had a loose political union, and the Gambia is virtually surrounded by Senegal, with much of the Senegal's transport links going through the Gambia.

That doesn't explain why they would annex it. It wouldn't even be the first time in history that Senegal has invaded the Gambia.

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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:00 am

Risottia wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.


You forgot to mention the "imperialist pig-dogs" somewhere.

Pig-dogs are more virtuous than the decadent, corrupt West! Yahya is our man, you know it to be true!
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Postby Luziyca » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:04 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:They have a shared culture, history, they previously had a loose political union, and the Gambia is virtually surrounded by Senegal, with much of the Senegal's transport links going through the Gambia.

That doesn't explain why they would annex it. It wouldn't even be the first time in history that Senegal has invaded the Gambia.

According to Wikipedia:

"The Trans-Gambia Highway is the most important road in The Gambia, running across the centre of the nation in a north-south direction. The road is also economically important for Senegal, in which it is designated as the N4 road."
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:05 am

Luziyca wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:That doesn't explain why they would annex it. It wouldn't even be the first time in history that Senegal has invaded the Gambia.

According to Wikipedia:

"The Trans-Gambia Highway is the most important road in The Gambia, running across the centre of the nation in a north-south direction. The road is also economically important for Senegal, in which it is designated as the N4 road."

And they are not going to annex the Gambia over it. You know what they're going to do? March in, overthrow the rightful ruler (Yahya), and then leave once the usurper and Western puppet Adama is in power.

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Postby Minoa » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:45 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:According to Wikipedia:

"The Trans-Gambia Highway is the most important road in The Gambia, running across the centre of the nation in a north-south direction. The road is also economically important for Senegal, in which it is designated as the N4 road."

And they are not going to annex the Gambia over it. You know what they're going to do? March in, overthrow the rightful ruler (Yahya), and then leave once the usurper and Western puppet Adama is in power.

How would Jammeh be a rightful ruler with evidence of multiple human rights abuses, as well as his hostile blend of homophobia that clearly overshadows Donald Trump (The Independent, 14 January 2015)?
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jan 19, 2017 10:47 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Luziyca wrote:...good God.

I wouldn't be surprised if Senegal invades and annexes the Gambia just to put a stop to Jammeh.

Why would they annex the Gambia?

Also, Yahya is our man. He is a brave fighter against Western imperialism and degenerate, sickening Western culture which seeks to corrupt Africa and her people.


At first I thought you were serious. This is NSG after all.
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Postby Napkiraly » Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:00 am

Minoa wrote:
Napkiraly wrote:And they are not going to annex the Gambia over it. You know what they're going to do? March in, overthrow the rightful ruler (Yahya), and then leave once the usurper and Western puppet Adama is in power.

How would Jammeh be a rightful ruler with evidence of multiple human rights abuses, as well as his hostile blend of homophobia that clearly overshadows Donald Trump (The Independent, 14 January 2015)?

This is precisely what makes him the rightful ruler. Democracy was invented by Western homosexuals to brainwash the youth and vulnerable. The West may wish to continuously decline and become impure but that does not mean Africa will follow suit!

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