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Old Tyrannia
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:07 pm

Pasong Tirad wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:I know it may seem petty, but honestly, from my perspective letting you join and leaving you alone out of niceness is just an exercise of shooting myself in the foot. I'll be severely weakened by the loss of the Philippines, and there's not really any way I can change my claims to allow you play them that doesn't put me in a bad situation.

It does seem petty, yes and the title literally says reboot so I really don't understand the problem. Believe me I am trying my hardest to try and see this from your perspective but I really can't unleas your empire is from the old thread in which case yeah okay sure but again it literally says in the title reboot. It's like if you had a shot up liver in your last IC you've just gotten a free transplant.

It's not fair, from my perspective, that after all the time and effort I've invested I have to go back to being the underdog to make room for new players.


Again, I still can't see understand it from your perspective, but that pretty much tells me I will not be able to play here and if I do it will be 0% fun, so I'll end it here because it is literally pointless as you've made your stand against compromising your story for a new guy very clear.

I've compromised quite a bit, actually, just not with you. Because there is a point at which one must cease compromising, or else I'd have nothing at all. I want to have fun too, you know.

Cheerio, then.
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Tue Jan 03, 2017 4:17 pm

Intermountain States wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:And as I said, with our current policies, rebel groups are forbidden.

So once OT takes over the Phillipines, that's the end of that? No RP posts of the Filipino government fleeing to Southern China? No remnants of the military of the Philipines actively trying to resist foreign rule? It's just over?

And then what?
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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:06 pm

Made a map of my claims: http://i.imgur.com/U9kkGZr.png

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Postby Togeria » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:10 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:Made a map of my claims: http://i.imgur.com/U9kkGZr.png

If you're Portugal than you have claims in South America that are in my territory.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:11 pm

Togeria wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:Made a map of my claims: http://i.imgur.com/U9kkGZr.png

If you're Portugal than you have claims in South America that are in my territory.

Okay, I'll just remove the conflicting claims.

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Postby Togeria » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:14 pm

I love telegrams please by all means telegram me!


DEFCON LEVELS
[1] peace
2 hostilities
3engaged conflicts
4War
Maldaria- Victory
GSW-Victory
Revolution in Sharphats-Stalemates
2nd Russian civil war-indecisive
Parazal Civil War-Support wasn't active militarily
I am deeply sorry for the attacks on your nations capital, and pray for those affected by the attacks both in Paris and throughout France. As a fellow Muslim I apologize deeply and in place of those who use our religion to commit such an heinous crime. I pray for France, for Paris, and for all those affected.

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Soviet Chernarus
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Tue Jan 03, 2017 5:18 pm


Are you a Portuguese Brazil?

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Trotza
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Postby Trotza » Tue Jan 03, 2017 7:00 pm

Soviet Chernarus wrote:

Are you a Portuguese Brazil?

Latin/Roman actually.

Also as far as the map goes there's also conflicts with the Indonesian territories.
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Postby Waztaskio » Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:28 pm

Just out of curiosity, why are rebels not playable?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:15 pm

Waztaskio wrote:Just out of curiosity, why are rebels not playable?

After our former OP, because that would ruin the experience for nation players, having a player controlled rebel group in your nation isn't exactly nice. Because that would sooner or later end in arguments between the one rebelling and the one trying to stop him from rebelling on what happen and what can't, and because on its own, a rebel group doesn't exactly have big chances of doing anything.
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Postby Soviet Chernarus » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:56 pm

Trotza wrote:
Soviet Chernarus wrote:Are you a Portuguese Brazil?

Latin/Roman actually.

Also as far as the map goes there's also conflicts with the Indonesian territories.

What are the conflicts?

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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:06 pm

I think once Alt Div Admin starts posting accepted applications, with a corresponding map of locked-in claims, it will be easier to sort out the newer apps.

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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:24 pm

Cymrea wrote:I think once Alt Div Admin starts posting accepted applications, with a corresponding map of locked-in claims, it will be easier to sort out the newer apps.

*HINT* *NUDGE* *WINK* :P

I don't have the password.
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Postby Cymrea » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:43 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
Cymrea wrote:I think once Alt Div Admin starts posting accepted applications, with a corresponding map of locked-in claims, it will be easier to sort out the newer apps.

*HINT* *NUDGE* *WINK* :P

I don't have the password.

I suspect it's Nova.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Wed Jan 04, 2017 1:45 pm

Cymrea wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:I don't have the password.

I suspect it's Nova.

I've been asking him to give it to me too so that I can take care of that, I missed the password when it was initially send, it probably drowned in the mass of telegrams.

But well.
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 8:58 am

Since I finally got the password, I edited the OP a little, and I added a list of the apps I remembered. I also added the hashtag thingy to the nation app, because searching for them through all these pages is too though.

Now, those who have finished their apps but haven't been accepted, please quote them here and/or send me a TG.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:45 am

Tracian Empire wrote:Since I finally got the password, I edited the OP a little, and I added a list of the apps I remembered. I also added the hashtag thingy to the nation app, because searching for them through all these pages is too though.

Now, those who have finished their apps but haven't been accepted, please quote them here and/or send me a TG.


How could you forget the Italian Empire? :S

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The Solomani
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 10:56 am

what's this thing about and why does it have like four OOCs?

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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:03 am

The Solomani wrote:what's this thing about and why does it have like four OOCs?

It's an AH roleplay, as you might realize if you would bother to read the OP. It has multiple OOC's because it had multiple iterations and reboots.
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 11:04 am

The V O I D wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:Since I finally got the password, I edited the OP a little, and I added a list of the apps I remembered. I also added the hashtag thingy to the nation app, because searching for them through all these pages is too though.

Now, those who have finished their apps but haven't been accepted, please quote them here and/or send me a TG.


How could you forget the Italian Empire? :S

Sorry, I'll add it :P
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:00 pm

Tracian Empire wrote:
The Solomani wrote:what's this thing about and why does it have like four OOCs?

It's an AH roleplay, as you might realize if you would bother to read the OP. It has multiple OOC's because it had multiple iterations and reboots.

I did read the OP, I'm just confused as to why you've decided to ignore the Butterfly effect and allow people to do whatever without paying attention to the possible repercussions these events would have

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:08 pm

The Solomani wrote:
Tracian Empire wrote:It's an AH roleplay, as you might realize if you would bother to read the OP. It has multiple OOC's because it had multiple iterations and reboots.

I did read the OP, I'm just confused as to why you've decided to ignore the Butterfly effect and allow people to do whatever without paying attention to the possible repercussions these events would have

We do pay attention to the repercussions these events would have. We allow a degree of leeway so that people can make the nations that they want to play, however. We're all here to have fun, and that's the priority, not making every aspect of our alternate histories line up.
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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:09 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:
The Solomani wrote:I did read the OP, I'm just confused as to why you've decided to ignore the Butterfly effect and allow people to do whatever without paying attention to the possible repercussions these events would have

We do pay attention to the repercussions these events would have. We allow a degree of leeway so that people can make the nations that they want to play, however. We're all here to have fun, and that's the priority, not making every aspect of our alternate histories line up.

Exactly.
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The Solomani
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Postby The Solomani » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:25 pm

Okay, I guess that makes sense. Is it possible for me to join?

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Tracian Empire
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Postby Tracian Empire » Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:26 pm

The Solomani wrote:Okay, I guess that makes sense. Is it possible for me to join?

It is open, and there are still some free areas, but whether you're accepted or not depends on a lot of things.
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