1870 : Alternative Divergence [AH][OOC][REBOOT]

[Tracian Empire]

Yes, we both have to work on our history, but in general, your app could use some more details.

I don't think anyone else is going to post a Great Wall of App like yours, Trace.

Clearly not. But Void's app still needs more detail, especially as I said, in the military part.

[Tracian Empire]

With regard to this RP's Imperium Romanum, Trace is very thorough in the detail.

Thrace just does amazing with any app.

I just really like to put a lot of details

And regarding this specific app, I've been working on it for nearly two years.

[Tracian Empire]

Yes, we both have to work on our history, but in general, your app could use some more details.

I'll try to clean it up but might need your help with history so I don't mess up continuity for either of us.

Wanna take this to TGs so we can help each other out?

Yeah, certainly.

[The V O I D]

Thrace just does amazing with any app.

I just really like to put a lot of details

And regarding this specific app, I've been working on it for nearly two years.

Wow. GG no re.

Anyways, I have stuff to do atm, might just lurk NS for a bit IDK.

I'll fix my app when I get back. I obviously reserve my Italia officially until my app is completed.

[Seinlo]

Well, accepted, clearly.

Awesome! I'm in negotiations over certain portions of the map that I used to possess but don't just now.

It's not going well for the good guys (me!)...lol.

Cambria may be going to war, folks!

If it has any effect on our interests, and depending on what it is, we may aid or combat you.

Guys, is 62 ships-of-the-line (at or above third-rate. I'm unsure if I want first-rates or not, but I might have one or two for each major theater I'm active in, with a few to spare), 82 great frifates, and 225 frigates, with large amounts of corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (we have several types of the latter) too much for me to have? I mean, my army is larger than 1% because of increased threats from my rivals, so perhaps I built a larger navy to make up for increased threat from neighbors and rivals, to protect my merchant fleets, to police my waters, and to make up for lagging behind my rivals?

Technologically I lag behind nearly every potential rival, especially in the navy, and in research, tok. I do have modern weapomry, however, which allows me to have shell guns and 1870-level small arms and artillery.

Is it too small for that purpose? Or no? I dunno, lol

[Tracian Empire]

Well, accepted, clearly.

Awesome! I'm in negotiations over certain portions of the map that I used to possess but don't just now.

It's not going well for the good guys (me!)...lol.

Cambria may be going to war, folks!

Though well, aren't we going with a clear map, which means that we make the switch from somewhere in our history?

[Cymrea]

Awesome! I'm in negotiations over certain portions of the map that I used to possess but don't just now.

It's not going well for the good guys (me!)...lol.

Cambria may be going to war, folks!

Though well, aren't we going with a clear map, which means that we make the switch from somewhere in our history?

Not sure. I have yet to see the app for the player intruding on my previous clay.

Once I have a better idea about the revised histories, I'll make a more informed decision.

[Tracian Empire]

Though well, aren't we going with a clear map, which means that we make the switch from somewhere in our history?

Not sure. I have yet to see the app for the player intruding on my previous clay.

Once I have a better idea about the revised histories, I'll make a more informed decision.

I don't know about other players. But in our specific regard, the solution that was suggested by the OP board was simply to edit our history so that Sinai has always been Roman, and that Cambria, instead of taking Sinai, took a part of Egypt.

[Cymrea]

Not sure. I have yet to see the app for the player intruding on my previous clay.

Once I have a better idea about the revised histories, I'll make a more informed decision.

I don't know about other players. But in our specific regard, the solution that was suggested by the OP board was simply to edit our history so that Sinai has always been Roman, and that Cambria, instead of taking Sinai, took a part of Egypt.

Yes, and I also lost Jamaica, but I'm okay with those changes. We already knew Sinai and Aegypt would flip around between us, and I did acquire the rest of Quebec and Atlantic Canada - so really, I have no strong complaints and am relatively happy. But with regard the western bits I'm losing to a new player, I'll wait and see how the histories play out and go from there.

[Tracian Empire]

I don't know about other players. But in our specific regard, the solution that was suggested by the OP board was simply to edit our history so that Sinai has always been Roman, and that Cambria, instead of taking Sinai, took a part of Egypt.

Yes, and I also lost Jamaica, but I'm okay with those changes. We already knew Sinai and Aegypt would flip around between us, and I did acquire the rest of Quebec and Atlantic Canada - so really, I have no strong complaints and am relatively happy. But with regard the western bits I'm losing to a new player, I'll wait and see how the histories play out and go from there.

That's why we should set that in place. I think that we can mention a common Cambrian-Roman operation sometime in the past, with the combined forces of the two nations defeating whatever generic Egypt NPC we have in place for that area now, and with Rome retaking their Sinai, and Cambria gaining a nice piece of Egypt.

But what Western bits?

[The Ik Ka Ek Akai]

Hello hello

[Trotza]

Ayyo what do we have here.

[Cymrea]

Yes, and I also lost Jamaica, but I'm okay with those changes. We already knew Sinai and Aegypt would flip around between us, and I did acquire the rest of Quebec and Atlantic Canada - so really, I have no strong complaints and am relatively happy. But with regard the western bits I'm losing to a new player, I'll wait and see how the histories play out and go from there.

That's why we should set that in place. I think that we can mention a common Cambrian-Roman operation sometime in the past, with the combined forces of the two nations defeating whatever generic Egypt NPC we have in place for that area now, and with Rome retaking their Sinai, and Cambria gaining a nice piece of Egypt.

But what Western bits?

South and west British Columbia, the Alaskan panhandle, and Washington state.

[Tracian Empire]

That's why we should set that in place. I think that we can mention a common Cambrian-Roman operation sometime in the past, with the combined forces of the two nations defeating whatever generic Egypt NPC we have in place for that area now, and with Rome retaking their Sinai, and Cambria gaining a nice piece of Egypt.

But what Western bits?

South and west British Columbia, the Alaskan panhandle, and Washington state.

Well, I don't have much to say about that. But in what involves Rome, I believe that the exchange is pretty good.

[Tracian Empire]

Hello hello

[Rygondria]

So i got to the movies and i come back to this, and i see someone took Indonesia, well there goes my spice island monopoly form the last rp...time to make an app.

[Danceria]

Full Nation Name : The Scandinavian Empire/Den Skandinaviske Imperium
Majority/Official Culture : Scandinavian (Swedish-Danish mix, largely Swedish)
Territorial Core : Scandinavia (Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Iceland)
Territorial Claim : Venezuela, Guyana and Trinidad y Tobago (Named Christiania), Angola (Named "Nagola"), Nigera (Scandinavian Guinea) and Argentina (Called Arnadal)
Capital City : Copenhagen (Copenhagen IRL) is where the Parliament meets and is the official capital, however due to political troubles of the past centuries, the Royal Family resides in Stockholm.
Population :

Government Type : Constitutional Monarchy
Government Ideology/Policies : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Militant, Imperialist, Expansionist, etc.]]
Government Focus : [[Tell me a little bit about what is your government’s focus… be it military, economy, culture, legitimacy, etc.]]
Head of State : King Erik XV Vasa
Head of Government : Chancellor Frederick Magnus Karlsson
Government Description :

Majority/State Religion : [[OPTIONAL]] [[It does not have to be IRL religion]]
Religious Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

Economic Ideologies : [[Capitalism, Mercantilism, Socialism, Communism, etc.]]
Major Production :
Economic Description :

Army Strength :
Army Weakness :
Naval Strength :
Naval Weakness :
Further Military Description : [[OPTIONAL]]

National Goals : Unite the overseas territories and
National Issues : [[what needs to be fixed in order for your nation to achieve its true potential]]
National Figures of Interest : [[OPTIONAL]] [[Are there any Mother Teresas or Moses that we need to know about?]]
National Ambition/Aspirations : [[OPTIONAL]] "The Adolphine", owed to Duke Gustav Adolf of Södermanland and Lord High Commander of Sweden to Sigmund II, which essentially states a desire to have "every port of sizeable commerce have the flag of our great nation." which is the motivation for Scandinavian influence in Christiania, Nagola, and Arndal. As well as the Sigmundist Seal

History : [[Can be in paragraph or bulletpoint timeline.]]

Comparison Points – Political : [[How much national focus is gone into administrating the government, i.e. espionage, royal marriages, counter-intelligence, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Cultural/Religious : [[How much national focus is gone into religious and or cultural aspects, i.e. asking for excommunication, call for crusade, soviet revolution in other nations, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Economy : [[How much national focus is gone into economic matters, i.e. embargo/blockade efficiency, lasting through war of attrition, simply feeding your people better, etc.]]
Comparison Points – Military : [[How much national focus is gone into military, i.e. discipline, morale, better tacticians/generals, etc.]]
Total Comparison Points used (10 Points MAX) : /10

[Cymrea]

South and west British Columbia, the Alaskan panhandle, and Washington state.

Well, I don't have much to say about that. But in what involves Rome, I believe that the exchange is pretty good.

I agree.

[Seinlo]

Danceria, I need halp.

I also need to know when the Sack of Medina and Treaty of Jeddah were. I'm working on my application right now, and am focusing on history at the moment.

[Seinlo]

Awesome! I'm in negotiations over certain portions of the map that I used to possess but don't just now.

It's not going well for the good guys (me!)...lol.

Cambria may be going to war, folks!

If it has any effect on our interests, and depending on what it is, we may aid or combat you.

Guys, is 62 ships-of-the-line (at or above third-rate. I'm unsure if I want first-rates or not, but I might have one or two for each major theater I'm active in, with a few to spare), 82 great frifates, and 225 frigates, with large amounts of corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (we have several types of the latter) too much for me to have? I mean, my army is larger than 1% because of increased threats from my rivals, so perhaps I built a larger navy to make up for increased threat from neighbors and rivals, to protect my merchant fleets, to police my waters, and to make up for lagging behind my rivals?

Technologically I lag behind nearly every potential rival, especially in the navy, and in research, tok. I do have modern weapomry, however, which allows me to have shell guns and 1870-level small arms and artillery.

Is it too small for that purpose? Or no? I dunno, lol

No answers for my questions? I need help :c

[Cymrea]

I lost my African holdings too... ah, well.

[Tracian Empire]

I lost my African holdings too... ah, well.

What African holdings?

[Cymrea]

If it has any effect on our interests, and depending on what it is, we may aid or combat you.

Guys, is 62 ships-of-the-line (at or above third-rate. I'm unsure if I want first-rates or not, but I might have one or two for each major theater I'm active in, with a few to spare), 82 great frifates, and 225 frigates, with large amounts of corvettes, sloops-of-war, and support or auxiliary vessels (we have several types of the latter) too much for me to have? I mean, my army is larger than 1% because of increased threats from my rivals, so perhaps I built a larger navy to make up for increased threat from neighbors and rivals, to protect my merchant fleets, to police my waters, and to make up for lagging behind my rivals?

Technologically I lag behind nearly every potential rival, especially in the navy, and in research, tok. I do have modern weapomry, however, which allows me to have shell guns and 1870-level small arms and artillery.

Is it too small for that purpose? Or no? I dunno, lol

No answers for my questions? I need help :c

It's hard to tell just now. Once the apps are all in and the map solidified, it will be easier to make a realistic determination about your needs, including your economy and population.

[Novacom]

I lost my African holdings too... ah, well.

What African holdings?

That's a mistake I've just noticed which I've fixed, I'll be sorting out 0.03 when we have someone to add on whose been accepted.

[Tracian Empire]

No answers for my questions? I need help :c

It's hard to tell just now. Once the apps are all in and the map solidified, it will be easier to make a realistic determination about your needs, including your economy and population.

This^