[UK] Prince Charles: don’t repeat the horrors of the past

[Genivaria]

It's time to stop with the populist movements are literally Hitler bullshit. I'm not a populist but it's getting really fucking annoying.

When people talk like this the Hitler comparisons actually start to become valid.

>Implying Trump isn't the elite

Also, define "moral degeneracy".

-Abortion
-Interracial Activity
-Same-Sex Activity
-Cross-Dressing
-Most of the social values promoted by the Left and the AltRight
-Not attending Church if you're religious

In the regard if someone seriously advocated violently seizing all the means of production, establishing forced labor camps, and purging of dissidents a comparison to Stalin wouldn't be inappropriate.

[Minoa]

It's quite good to see that the modern day political perseptic has been so degradged that this has turned into a alex jones conspiracy nonsense thread, and about Ireland, and catholics and protestants.

No wonder everyone is going insane. The world is becoming Bioshock Infinite. Mark my words.

I start a reasonable thread about Prince Charles, whose opinion just happen to correspond with mine at that moment, and this is what it has come to. My view of the Internet is actually quite grim, but that is for another thread.

[Dahon]

I put the preservation of my race above all. If a black person reproduces with any other race, it ends up a shade of brown, that includes white people. Whites reproducing with blacks ends millennia of heritage and ends a bloodline.

I have Caucasian and Chinese and Malay ancestors.

I seem to not have ended any bloodlines.

What do?

[Brkelgarozed]

No not really most of they immigrants of late 19th and 20th century where form Europe and had similar values and culture. And immigrates did not keep their cultures they all assimilated in to one culture. American culture.

You clearly aren't an American if you think there's a single American culture.
As a Texan I can tell you right now that New Yorkers don't know shit about making proper sweet tea.

Yeah there is they all common values.

[Genivaria]

You clearly aren't an American if you think there's a single American culture.
As a Texan I can tell you right now that New Yorkers don't know shit about making proper sweet tea.

Yeah there is they all common values.

Yeah that's not the same as claiming 'there's a single American culture'.
Backpedal some more.

[Western Vale Confederacy]

I put the preservation of my race above all. If a black person reproduces with any other race, it ends up a shade of brown, that includes white people. Whites reproducing with blacks ends millennia of heritage and ends a bloodline.

I have Caucasian and Chinese and Malay ancestors.

I seem to not have ended any bloodlines.

What do?

I significant evidence that I'm descended from Iberian Moors, Austrians, Irish, maybe even some Indian...

The concept of "white race" doesn't exist anymore, we're all mixed one way or the other.

[Dahon]

The concept of "white race" doesn't exist anymore

It never really has, Jumar's bigoted pretensions notwithstanding. We're all sons and daughters of Eve, we're all from the Rift Valley, we're all black, one way or another.

[Salandriagado]

You clearly aren't an American if you think there's a single American culture.
As a Texan I can tell you right now that New Yorkers don't know shit about making proper sweet tea.

Yeah there is they all common values.

Name one.

[Uxupox]

No not really most of they immigrants of late 19th and 20th century where form Europe and had similar values and culture. And immigrates did not keep their cultures they all assimilated in to one culture. American culture.

You clearly aren't an American if you think there's a single American culture.
As a Texan I can tell you right now that New Yorkers don't know shit about making proper sweet tea.

Why have icky tea when you can have glorious Coffee.

[Hurdergaryp]

I have Caucasian and Chinese and Malay ancestors.

I seem to not have ended any bloodlines.

What do?

I significant evidence that I'm descended from Iberian Moors, Austrians, Irish, maybe even some Indian...

The concept of "white race" doesn't exist anymore, we're all mixed one way or the other.

If it ever existed to begin with. There are pale Caucasians, but that's about it.

[Genivaria]

You clearly aren't an American if you think there's a single American culture.
As a Texan I can tell you right now that New Yorkers don't know shit about making proper sweet tea.

Why have icky tea when you can have glorious Coffee.

Spoken like a true working class American. *nods*

[Imperializt Russia]

can we just abolish the monarchy already? Why should we care what some rich piece of shit zionist colonial oppressor thinks, fuck him and the rest of the royal family.

Find it interesting you think that after apparently voting to remove half of our international influence, we should just "abolish" the other half, and be impatient with the fact it hasn't happened yet.

[Lavochkin]

Why have icky tea when you can have glorious Coffee.

Spoken like a true working class American. *nods*

Coffee ain't even American. Cola is the true drink of the brave and free.

[Minoa]

Maybe some of us care about people fleeing from a war to find a better life more then peoples fear that they are terrorists

To add on to the above, it is my firm belief that not all "X" are "Y". You cannot assume all persons of a certain faith to be violent just because of ISIL, but at the same time it is this kind of shunning that drives them into violence out of despair, and then it worsens the vicious circle of violence.

I know that there are lots of solutions on the table, but definitely not the right-wing populism ones, like the version in Hungary and Poland where racism, homophobia, ableism, interference in the judiciary and hostility towards free expression is a now serious problem.

At least I refrain from such knee-jerk reactions like the Daily Mail newspaper, but for the reasons that I said in the OP, I can't stay and fight if such a thing happens in the UK, not with my mental health issues depriving me of interest in nearly all the things that I usually do - loneliness isn’t helping either. At such point (if such a thing like Hungary and Poland happens in the UK) it would either that I emigrate (and recover) or I end my life (at least with dignity).

I apologise for posting my grim reality but even my talented mind has a limit of torture or something like that.

Best,

-- Minoa

[Minzerland II]

can we just abolish the monarchy already? Why should we care what some rich piece of shit zionist colonial oppressor thinks, fuck him and the rest of the royal family.

Because they're beneficial to the Kingdom.

[The Conez Imperium]

It's time to stop with the populist movements are literally Hitler bullshit. I'm not a populist but it's getting really fucking annoying.

I find it annoying when people make historical comparison and don't explain why their comparison is valid. Nothing wrong with equating something or someone with Hitler as long as it is supported in a coherent argument. Why try to stifle creativity I say.

[Brachauland]

Maybe some of us care about people fleeing from a war to find a better life more then peoples fear that they are terrorists

To add on to the above, it is my firm belief that not all "X" are "Y". You cannot assume all persons of a certain faith to be violent just because of ISIL, but at the same time it is this kind of shunning that drives them into violence out of despair, and then it worsens the vicious circle of violence.

I know that there are lots of solutions on the table, but definitely not the right-wing populism ones, like the version in Hungary and Poland where racism, homophobia, ableism, interference in the judiciary and hostility towards free expression is a now serious problem.

At least I refrain from such knee-jerk reactions like the Daily Mail newspaper, but for the reasons that I said in the OP, I can't stay and fight if such a thing happens in the UK, not with my mental health issues depriving me of interest in nearly all the things that I usually do - loneliness isn’t helping either. At such point (if such a thing like Hungary and Poland happens in the UK) it would either that I emigrate (and recover) or I end my life (at least with dignity).

I apologise for posting my grim reality but even my talented mind has a limit of torture or something like that.

Best,

-- Minoa

I'm not sure if you have noticed but almost all "Ebil Eurosceptic Parties!!1!" are traditional liberal to centre-left parties. The only large Eurosceptic nazi party around is Golden Dawn in Greece and their support has collapsed since the last elections there. You aren't going to get executed by a new regime consolidating its power... Yet.

The reason I'm saying yet is because the pro-European and pro-invasion part of Europe, including the elites, are making a great mistake by marginalising and blaming the working class population by calling them 'nazis' and ignoring all of their arguments in this discussion.

I'm living in low-income Dutch neighbourhood because I (like most white people and our predecessors here) are living in these conditions for the past 60 years. In that time we have seen a large influx of migrants in the past few years which has risen the non-western population to about 20-30% here (not including the newest wave of migrants, or 'refugees' as I'm supposed to call them). My neighbourhood has the second worst crimerate in the entire city of 120,000 inhabitants and my neighbourhood is one of the about 10 in this entire country that has an insufficient grade because of the crime from the mostly Moroccan gangs and the religious conflict between the muslims and non-muslims.

If people who have to live in a country which feels and acts no longer as theirs and have to live under these worsening conditions but are being ignored because they are just 'helping to the rise of fascism' such as bonnie prince Charles and most liberals are saying, then you shouldn't be surprised they will actually opt out of democratic parties and start supporing nationalist militias and fascist parties. Hell, the Dutch fascistesque party, the NVU, has changed status from being a hated group in Gelderland to a welcome face in almost every low-income neighbourhood within a year.

And, to be honest, if Charles here and most people keep bad-mouthing us and ignoring us, then I think I will also opt out of democracy and join up with the growing fascists. I'd rather be on the right side of the regime when that time comes.

[Vassenor]

To add on to the above, it is my firm belief that not all "X" are "Y". You cannot assume all persons of a certain faith to be violent just because of ISIL, but at the same time it is this kind of shunning that drives them into violence out of despair, and then it worsens the vicious circle of violence.

I know that there are lots of solutions on the table, but definitely not the right-wing populism ones, like the version in Hungary and Poland where racism, homophobia, ableism, interference in the judiciary and hostility towards free expression is a now serious problem.

At least I refrain from such knee-jerk reactions like the Daily Mail newspaper, but for the reasons that I said in the OP, I can't stay and fight if such a thing happens in the UK, not with my mental health issues depriving me of interest in nearly all the things that I usually do - loneliness isn’t helping either. At such point (if such a thing like Hungary and Poland happens in the UK) it would either that I emigrate (and recover) or I end my life (at least with dignity).

I apologise for posting my grim reality but even my talented mind has a limit of torture or something like that.

Best,

-- Minoa

I'm not sure if you have noticed but almost all "Ebil Eurosceptic Parties!!1!" are traditional liberal to centre-left parties. The only large Eurosceptic nazi party around is Golden Dawn in Greece and their support has collapsed since the last elections there. You aren't going to get executed by a new regime consolidating its power... Yet.

The reason I'm saying yet is because the pro-European and pro-invasion part of Europe, including the elites, are making a great mistake by marginalising and blaming the working class population by calling them 'nazis' and ignoring all of their arguments in this discussion.

I'm living in low-income Dutch neighbourhood because I (like most white people and our predecessors here) are living in these conditions for the past 60 years. In that time we have seen a large influx of migrants in the past few years which has risen the non-western population to about 20-30% here (not including the newest wave of migrants, or 'refugees' as I'm supposed to call them). My neighbourhood has the second worst crimerate in the entire city of 120,000 inhabitants and my neighbourhood is one of the about 10 in this entire country that has an insufficient grade because of the crime from the mostly Moroccan gangs and the religious conflict between the muslims and non-muslims.

If people who have to live in a country which feels and acts no longer as theirs and have to live under these worsening conditions but are being ignored because they are just 'helping to the rise of fascism' such as bonnie prince Charles and most liberals are saying, then you shouldn't be surprised they will actually opt out of democratic parties and start supporing nationalist militias and fascist parties. Hell, the Dutch fascistesque party, the NVU, has changed status from being a hated group in Gelderland to a welcome face in almost every low-income neighbourhood within a year.

And, to be honest, if Charles here and most people keep bad-mouthing us and ignoring us, then I think I will also opt out of democracy and join up with the growing fascists. I'd rather be on the right side of the regime when that time comes.

>UKIP

>Center-left

[Imperializt Russia]

To add on to the above, it is my firm belief that not all "X" are "Y". You cannot assume all persons of a certain faith to be violent just because of ISIL, but at the same time it is this kind of shunning that drives them into violence out of despair, and then it worsens the vicious circle of violence.

I know that there are lots of solutions on the table, but definitely not the right-wing populism ones, like the version in Hungary and Poland where racism, homophobia, ableism, interference in the judiciary and hostility towards free expression is a now serious problem.

At least I refrain from such knee-jerk reactions like the Daily Mail newspaper, but for the reasons that I said in the OP, I can't stay and fight if such a thing happens in the UK, not with my mental health issues depriving me of interest in nearly all the things that I usually do - loneliness isn’t helping either. At such point (if such a thing like Hungary and Poland happens in the UK) it would either that I emigrate (and recover) or I end my life (at least with dignity).

I apologise for posting my grim reality but even my talented mind has a limit of torture or something like that.

Best,

-- Minoa

I'm not sure if you have noticed but almost all "Ebil Eurosceptic Parties!!1!" are traditional liberal to centre-left parties. The only large Eurosceptic nazi party around is Golden Dawn in Greece and their support has collapsed since the last elections there. You aren't going to get executed by a new regime consolidating its power... Yet.

On what level are "most ebil eurosceptic parties" "liberal to centre-left"?
Some liberal and centre-left parties may be anti-EU, but they base themselves on other issues. Parties that we would tend to call "Eurosceptic" as an identifier are almost all right-wing to varying degrees.

The reason I'm saying yet is because the pro-European and pro-invasion part of Europe, including the elites, are making a great mistake by marginalising and blaming the working class population by calling them 'nazis' and ignoring all of their arguments in this discussion.

lol.

I mean, yeah, there has been marginalisation and ignoring those sectors of society, but that's not the bit that I'm laughing at, mate.

[Brachauland]

I'm not sure if you have noticed but almost all "Ebil Eurosceptic Parties!!1!" are traditional liberal to centre-left parties. The only large Eurosceptic nazi party around is Golden Dawn in Greece and their support has collapsed since the last elections there. You aren't going to get executed by a new regime consolidating its power... Yet.

The reason I'm saying yet is because the pro-European and pro-invasion part of Europe, including the elites, are making a great mistake by marginalising and blaming the working class population by calling them 'nazis' and ignoring all of their arguments in this discussion.

I'm living in low-income Dutch neighbourhood because I (like most white people and our predecessors here) are living in these conditions for the past 60 years. In that time we have seen a large influx of migrants in the past few years which has risen the non-western population to about 20-30% here (not including the newest wave of migrants, or 'refugees' as I'm supposed to call them). My neighbourhood has the second worst crimerate in the entire city of 120,000 inhabitants and my neighbourhood is one of the about 10 in this entire country that has an insufficient grade because of the crime from the mostly Moroccan gangs and the religious conflict between the muslims and non-muslims.

If people who have to live in a country which feels and acts no longer as theirs and have to live under these worsening conditions but are being ignored because they are just 'helping to the rise of fascism' such as bonnie prince Charles and most liberals are saying, then you shouldn't be surprised they will actually opt out of democratic parties and start supporing nationalist militias and fascist parties. Hell, the Dutch fascistesque party, the NVU, has changed status from being a hated group in Gelderland to a welcome face in almost every low-income neighbourhood within a year.

And, to be honest, if Charles here and most people keep bad-mouthing us and ignoring us, then I think I will also opt out of democracy and join up with the growing fascists. I'd rather be on the right side of the regime when that time comes.

>UKIP

>Center-left

"Traditional liberal to centre-left parties"

UKIP is a traditional liberal nationalist party. The Dutch party PVV is a centre-left nationalist party.

[Imperializt Russia]

>UKIP

>Center-left

"Traditional liberal to centre-left parties"

UKIP is a traditional liberal nationalist party. The Dutch party PVV is a centre-left nationalist party.

UKIP is a socially conservative party.

Economically liberal? Maybe, but that's a use of the term "liberal" that should probably be retired, save for the "neoliberal" term. This form of "liberal" is also nowt to do with the centre-left, which aren't traditionally economically liberal.

[Minoa]

And, to be honest, if Charles here and most people keep bad-mouthing us and ignoring us, then I think I will also opt out of democracy and join up with the growing fascists. I'd rather be on the right side of the regime when that time comes.

I don't want to pick any side: not with my dire state of health. But for me, there is nowhere other than NationStates to make my state of depression known.

[Imperializt Russia]

Also, why do you care what Prince Charles thinks of "you"? He's not in or from the same country as you, and he's not a politician and is in fact banned by law from being one, as he is a royal.

[Vassenor]

Also, why do you care what Prince Charles thinks of "you"? He's not in or from the same country as you, and he's not a politician and is in fact banned by law from being one, as he is a royal.

Not sure if it's the case here, but some people seem to get really upset whenever someone suggests that right-wing populism isn't the greatest thing in history.

[Imperializt Russia]

Also, why do you care what Prince Charles thinks of "you"? He's not in or from the same country as you, and he's not a politician and is in fact banned by law from being one, as he is a royal.

Not sure if it's the case here, but some people seem to get really upset whenever someone suggests that right-wing populism isn't the greatest thing in history.

What harm can right-wing populism possibly cause?