The Serbian Empire wrote:Went around with a snow blower and realized something about HRT, it's going to be a very difficult task going forward.
Are those related facts, or just incidental?
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by Philjia » Mon Dec 12, 2016 12:40 pm
The Serbian Empire wrote:Went around with a snow blower and realized something about HRT, it's going to be a very difficult task going forward.
by The Serbian Empire » Mon Dec 12, 2016 5:52 pm
by Internationalist Bastard » Mon Dec 12, 2016 6:44 pm
by Noraika » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:09 pm
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by The Serbian Empire » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:51 pm
by Noraika » Mon Dec 12, 2016 7:53 pm
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by Socialist Tera » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:28 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:32 pm
Noraika wrote:The Serbian Empire wrote:Not exactly, if one works out the stamina will be kept, but the physical strength unless comparable to cis women will likely decline.
It is possible to maintain that strength, but you'd have to do what a cis-girl does to get there and maintain it. You can be just as strong, but you'll just have less muscle mass to work with over time.
by United Socialist Republic of Antarctica » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:02 am
by The Serbian Empire » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:53 pm
United Socialist Republic of Antarctica wrote:So I am helping out a trans guy at my school who's parents aren't supportive. Is it possible to get him testosterone without his parents approval or will he have to wait until he's 18?
by Noraika » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:51 pm
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by The Serbian Empire » Tue Dec 13, 2016 8:57 pm
Noraika wrote:My parents definitely seem more receptive, but they are still not supportive. They seem to be very deeply in mourning, and still think that - while they are happy for my getting better and want to stay in contact, and actually acknowledge I was gender dysphoric now - there had to be another way to get the same results without transitioning, which they still think is dangerous and will end with me regretting it and taking my life (which is what they have been constantly told will happen).
Overall, better, but definitely not good yet.
by The Serbian Empire » Wed Dec 14, 2016 7:37 pm
Socialist Tera wrote:I am feeling more and more helpless when it comes to transitioning. I mean I am having laser treatment and without blockers nothing is happening. I have to see a psychologist before I get another chance to transition.
by Nature-Spirits » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:27 pm
Aphryss wrote:Nature-Spirits wrote:Ehh, worse than having blood drawn (mostly because it's happening over and over again interminably), but not quite as bad as having dental work done with insufficient anaesthetic. So probably 5-7 ish, I'd say.
Of course, she told me we might try a slightly higher setting next appointment, so yay?
Also I wore a scarf to work today (I actually really love scarves and I have a huge collection, but I haven't been wearing them a whole lot lately since my workplace is usually sweltering), because the underside of my jaw and my neck are red and a bit swollen and I can't shave properly like this, and my laser lady told me to avoid wearing makeup on the lasered area for a few days. Like, the hairs are dead and all, but while they get pushed out I'm just going to have perpetual scruff, it seems. Hopefully it looks better in a few days.
Ugh, I hate when that kind of thing happens, because I feel so conflicted. It's a really nice gesture, and it's not great to look a gift horse in the mouth, but having your deadname recorded on that sort of thing is just an awful feeling.
So, I have no idea, basically. Maybe keep it for now and figure out what to do with it in a couple of years?
It's hard to estimate how much it hurts because you get used to it; which is not to say it hurts less as it goes on, but it has a way of recalibrating your pain threshhold. Plus, y'know, in a way it doesn't really matter how much it hurts, because that's not really relevant to the outcome. Success is the only metric. You're right about the repeated duration of it being the worst part, though - if it were just once it wouldn't be anything notable at all, really.
My personal Litany Against Pain is a kind of mashup of two of Alpha Centauri's secret projects - the Ascetic Virtues and the Virtual World. Which are not exactly fit for purpose, because Shen-Ji Yang is a monster who doesn't care about individual suffering, but they seem to work for me.
Unfortunately in my experience the fried hairs are stiffer and more brittle, which in practice means darker, more pronounced stubble for a week or two while they're pushing out. The swelling should go down in a day or two. My next session is on the nineteenth, which unfortunately means stubble for Christmas.
The Serbian Empire wrote:Went around with a snow blower and realized something about HRT, it's going to be a very difficult task going forward.
Noraika wrote:The main thing I've noticed from hrt isn't strength related, but heat tolerance related. Men and women have different ways the body keeps heat, and I'm learning, in the freezing temperatures of winter here, that my heat tolerance is nowhere near where it was before, so now I'm almost always cold unless I'm in temperatures I previously would have found too warm.
United Socialist Republic of Antarctica wrote:So I am helping out a trans guy at my school who's parents aren't supportive. Is it possible to get him testosterone without his parents approval or will he have to wait until he's 18?
Noraika wrote:My parents definitely seem more receptive, but they are still not supportive. They seem to be very deeply in mourning, and still think that - while they are happy for my getting better and want to stay in contact, and actually acknowledge I was gender dysphoric now - there had to be another way to get the same results without transitioning, which they still think is dangerous and will end with me regretting it and taking my life (which is what they have been constantly told will happen).
Overall, better, but definitely not good yet.
by Noraika » Wed Dec 14, 2016 10:59 pm
Nature-Spirits wrote:Noraika wrote:The main thing I've noticed from hrt isn't strength related, but heat tolerance related. Men and women have different ways the body keeps heat, and I'm learning, in the freezing temperatures of winter here, that my heat tolerance is nowhere near where it was before, so now I'm almost always cold unless I'm in temperatures I previously would have found too warm.
Really? I've never heard that before; it's an interesting observation.Noraika wrote:My parents definitely seem more receptive, but they are still not supportive. They seem to be very deeply in mourning, and still think that - while they are happy for my getting better and want to stay in contact, and actually acknowledge I was gender dysphoric now - there had to be another way to get the same results without transitioning, which they still think is dangerous and will end with me regretting it and taking my life (which is what they have been constantly told will happen).
Overall, better, but definitely not good yet.
Well then, here's to further improvement!
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by The Serbian Empire » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:14 am
Noraika wrote:Nature-Spirits wrote:
Really? I've never heard that before; it's an interesting observation.
Well then, here's to further improvement!
Yep! If I recall correctly it has to do with the fact that women's bodies concentrate more heat in their torso, and their skin is generally thinner, so the rest of our body lacks the same degree of insulation. I went from any weather above 70F being sweaty, to any weather under 70F being cold, and in need of a light jacket. Its now been under 20F here, and I've been freezing, while before I wouldn't be that bad.
Thank you! My parents are stubborn in saying that there must've been another way, and in thinking transitioning will lead me to suicide. They refuse to listen to any disagreeing position, so now I'm not sure where to go from here...
by Ashmoria » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:23 am
Noraika wrote:Nature-Spirits wrote:
Really? I've never heard that before; it's an interesting observation.
Well then, here's to further improvement!
Yep! If I recall correctly it has to do with the fact that women's bodies concentrate more heat in their torso, and their skin is generally thinner, so the rest of our body lacks the same degree of insulation. I went from any weather above 70F being sweaty, to any weather under 70F being cold, and in need of a light jacket. Its now been under 20F here, and I've been freezing, while before I wouldn't be that bad.
Thank you! My parents are stubborn in saying that there must've been another way, and in thinking transitioning will lead me to suicide. They refuse to listen to any disagreeing position, so now I'm not sure where to go from here...
by Jumalariik » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:28 am
The Serbian Empire wrote:Noraika wrote:Yep! If I recall correctly it has to do with the fact that women's bodies concentrate more heat in their torso, and their skin is generally thinner, so the rest of our body lacks the same degree of insulation. I went from any weather above 70F being sweaty, to any weather under 70F being cold, and in need of a light jacket. Its now been under 20F here, and I've been freezing, while before I wouldn't be that bad.
Thank you! My parents are stubborn in saying that there must've been another way, and in thinking transitioning will lead me to suicide. They refuse to listen to any disagreeing position, so now I'm not sure where to go from here...
Men also have more heat producing muscle mass than women.
by Philjia » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:39 am
by Jumalariik » Thu Dec 15, 2016 8:55 am
by The Serbian Empire » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:04 am
Jumalariik wrote:Philjia wrote:
Gender is not the same thing as sex.
RIGHT!
So when you talk about a man having physical characteristics you're wrong because man is a social construct. A man can look like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_ ... 3_(cropped).JPG
Now, a male is where the physical concerns exist. Just saying that TSE was not using gender theory correctly.
by Jumalariik » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:10 am
The Serbian Empire wrote:Jumalariik wrote:RIGHT!
So when you talk about a man having physical characteristics you're wrong because man is a social construct. A man can look like this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scarlett_ ... 3_(cropped).JPG
Now, a male is where the physical concerns exist. Just saying that TSE was not using gender theory correctly.
At las, I'm not exactly known for my knowledge of gender theory.
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:19 am
by The United Colonies of Earth » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:20 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Jumalariik wrote:lol neither am I
just joshing yah
But seriously, if even people who believe in gender theory use the words wrong according to their definitions it suggests a problem.
We're all part of the gender theory hive. If somebody misspeaks it's gotta be something that came from the gender queen. Now the whole of gender has been disproved, RIP, what do?
by Jumalariik » Thu Dec 15, 2016 9:24 am
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Jumalariik wrote:lol neither am I
just joshing yah
But seriously, if even people who believe in gender theory use the words wrong according to their definitions it suggests a problem.
We're all part of the gender theory hive. If somebody misspeaks it's gotta be something that came from the gender queen. Now the whole of gender has been disproved, RIP, what do?
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