Racial Diversity in the USA

[Jochizyd Republic]

America was an empire forged on Immigration, and more to the point ruthless exploitation of that immigration. We took all the people no one else wanted, and then shoved them into a proverbial meat grinder to get shit done. Our methods needed bodies.

Why should we care what color they are? And if they survive, they've clearly got the right stuff to be an American.

Let Europe play around with Ethnostates. America is too busy dominating the world by being the cultural equivalent of the Borg.

I arrive at the same conclusion here. Although I don't approve of what the various immigrants were put through in the past and don't think that's necessary to assimilation.

[USS Monitor]

While I'm sure it's not the only factor, I tend to blame certain cultural conventions in the South.

Like fucking Confederate sympathy. I don't think it's a coincidence that racial tensions are harshest in the South than anywhere else.

Wonder WHY the South has both the largest Hispanic/Black concentration AND is the most racist?
Maybe it's because these races are actually causing a problem?

If the South didn't want black people, they shouldn't have brought them in. Would've saved everyone a lot of trouble.

[The East Marches]

(Image)

"More people are talking about it therefore it's worse"

0/10 do not pass go, do not collect 200$.

Lrn2NPR/10

Remember, you can "internalize" white privilege. Any dissent is just that poking through. Its the same as claiming the devil is at work or any other trash.

You see, you continue to attack this phantom SJW you've conjured, while ignoring my views on the subject. It's much easier, though, to use buzzwords and misused academic terms to discredit the opposition.

But they are what come lock, stock and barrel with your ideology. How could I ever divorce the two?

Being a victim is the mark of the left. Victim of racism, sexism, etc.

As opposed to the victim of leftists, liberals, academics, Hollywood, cityfolk, anyone who isn't you, really?

Identity politics at its finest. The left crying victim as per the usual at us superior rural folk. We've been elitist before it was cool

It did not save you from the wrath of the voters.

More like wrath of the electoral college. We won the popular vote.

You mean the meaningless metric that both sides knew about before going in? Perhaps you shouldn't have antagonized the good people of the Midwest and treaded on them :^)

Uncle Augusto would give me an honorary helicopter ride to heaven for trying to save you from your own folly.

And a nice black bag to go with it?

Uncle Augusto: "TEM my son, you are too pure for this world. This is for your own good" *pushes out of helicopter*

[Tissoland]

The US would be better off without blacks. The only countries that are better than the US are basically more homogeneous and white. Racial diversity weakens social cohesion, trust, and the ability to cooperate. It creates identity politics, increases crime, causes social problems, etc.

[USS Monitor]

The US would be better off without blacks. The only countries that are better than the US are basically more homogeneous and white. Racial diversity weakens social cohesion, trust, and the ability to cooperate. It creates identity politics, increases crime, causes social problems, etc.

Says the guy with the Confederate flag. And people wonder why Northerners associate that flag with racism...

[Wallenburg]

I would bet that at least 99% of Trump supporters have never actually interacted with Syrian refugees.

This is a thing books are written about so rather than engage in a long sub discussion I'll just point to the word generally.

Tell me, how many exceptions to your rule do I have to offer to show that your general rule is not correct?

[Washington Resistance Army]

The US would be better off without blacks. The only countries that are better than the US are basically more homogeneous and white. Racial diversity weakens social cohesion, trust, and the ability to cooperate. It creates identity politics, increases crime, causes social problems, etc.

Ha, there's no countries better than the US.

[Insaeldor]

Maybe it's just elsewhere but here where I live I've never really seen this level of racism outside of the media both conservative and liberal. I work as a teacher in a pretty urban district that is a mix of working class peoples as well as low income peoples who live in nearby subsidized housing. I have to go out for about an hour before and after school and do cross walk duty. I service several different kinds of people and have see nothing racial go on. Blacks, whites, hispanics, you name it are more that civil with me at a personal level. In the school itself I haven't seen anything that I could view as racist or at least intentional racist. Only racist thing I've heard was when an autustic student of mine called me a nigger faggot, it was clearly to get a rise out of someone though as I'm white as snow and she's a quarter black. Kids usually play in interracial peer groups and mingle with one another.

Maybe there are other factors that play into all this in my specific situation but I just don't see the levels of racial tension that you would think exist in the media. I know the whole "well I never experienced it personally so it must not be true" kind of argument is sort of a fallacy but still I think it's at least somewhat valid given the occupation.

[Insaeldor]

The US would be better off without blacks. The only countries that are better than the US are basically more homogeneous and white. Racial diversity weakens social cohesion, trust, and the ability to cooperate. It creates identity politics, increases crime, causes social problems, etc.

Don't cut yourself on that edge you've got going in buddy.

[Conserative Morality]

Maybe it's just elsewhere but here where I live I've never really seen this level of racism outside of the media both conservative and liberal. I work as a teacher in a pretty urban district that is a mix of working class peoples as well as low income peoples who live in nearby subsidized housing. I have to go out for about an hour before and after school and do cross walk duty. I service several different kinds of people and have see nothing racial go on. Blacks, whites, hispanics, you name it are more that civil with me at a personal level. In the school itself I haven't seen anything that I could view as racist or at least intentional racist. Only racist thing I've heard was when an autustic student of mine called me a nigger faggot, it was clearly to get a rise out of someone though as I'm white as snow and she's a quarter black. Kids usually play in interracial peer groups and mingle with one another.

Maybe there are other factors that play into all this in my specific situation but I just don't see the levels of racial tension that you would think exist in the media. I know the whole "well I never experienced it personally so it must not be true" kind of argument is sort of a fallacy but still I think it's at least somewhat valid given the occupation.

I think it's systemic and regionally concentrated anymore rather than strong on the individual level, particularly among the younger generations.

[Des-Bal]

Tell me, how many exceptions to your rule do I have to offer to show that your general rule is not correct?

Enough to refute decades of scholarship and it would help if you framed it as an article in a peer reviewed journal.

[Wallenburg]

Tell me, how many exceptions to your rule do I have to offer to show that your general rule is not correct?

Enough to refute decades of scholarship and it would help if you framed it as an article in a peer reviewed journal.

You made the claim, buddy. It's not my job to offer evidence, it's yours.

[Des-Bal]

You made the claim, buddy, it's not my job to offer evidence.

And as I explained to you that I'm not going to engage in this digression.

[Wallenburg]

You made the claim, buddy, it's not my job to offer evidence.

And as I explained to you that I'm not going to engage in this digression.

So you are going to make claims and then refuse to actually back them up with facts? What a great form of argumentation.

Maybe it's just elsewhere but here where I live I've never really seen this level of racism outside of the media both conservative and liberal. I work as a teacher in a pretty urban district that is a mix of working class peoples as well as low income peoples who live in nearby subsidized housing. I have to go out for about an hour before and after school and do cross walk duty. I service several different kinds of people and have see nothing racial go on. Blacks, whites, hispanics, you name it are more that civil with me at a personal level. In the school itself I haven't seen anything that I could view as racist or at least intentional racist. Only racist thing I've heard was when an autustic student of mine called me a nigger faggot, it was clearly to get a rise out of someone though as I'm white as snow and she's a quarter black. Kids usually play in interracial peer groups and mingle with one another.

Maybe there are other factors that play into all this in my specific situation but I just don't see the levels of racial tension that you would think exist in the media. I know the whole "well I never experienced it personally so it must not be true" kind of argument is sort of a fallacy but still I think it's at least somewhat valid given the occupation.

I think it's systemic and regionally concentrated anymore rather than strong on the individual level, particularly among the younger generations.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. You need individual racists--and a lot of them--to build and uphold a system of racism, even a small one.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. You need individual racists--and a lot of them--to build and uphold a system of racism, even a small one.

Nyet tovarisch. You only need a lot of people who don't know or don't care to perpetuate an already-in-force system of racism.

[Des-Bal]

So you are going to make claims and then refuse to actually back them up with facts? What a great form of argumentation.

It's the exact opposite of an argument. I am explaining to you in no uncertain terms that the subject you're addressing is not the subject of the thread and I'm not going to participate in taking this thing off the rails.

[Wallenburg]

So you are going to make claims and then refuse to actually back them up with facts? What a great form of argumentation.

It's the exact opposite of an argument. I am explaining to you in no uncertain terms that the subject you're addressing is not the subject of the thread and I'm not going to participate in taking this thing off the rails.

So you admit to threadjacking, and then tell me to stop threadjacking? I really don't understand you. Whatever, we can stop talking if you want.

I'm not sure what you are getting at here. You need individual racists--and a lot of them--to build and uphold a system of racism, even a small one.

Nyet tovarisch. You only need a lot of people who don't know or don't care to perpetuate an already-in-force system of racism.

Except the trend of public policy has, for the most part, been against racism. To disturb that trend would require an active, substantial opposition, would it not?

[USS Monitor]

Maybe it's just elsewhere but here where I live I've never really seen this level of racism outside of the media both conservative and liberal. I work as a teacher in a pretty urban district that is a mix of working class peoples as well as low income peoples who live in nearby subsidized housing. I have to go out for about an hour before and after school and do cross walk duty. I service several different kinds of people and have see nothing racial go on. Blacks, whites, hispanics, you name it are more that civil with me at a personal level. In the school itself I haven't seen anything that I could view as racist or at least intentional racist. Only racist thing I've heard was when an autustic student of mine called me a nigger faggot, it was clearly to get a rise out of someone though as I'm white as snow and she's a quarter black. Kids usually play in interracial peer groups and mingle with one another.

Maybe there are other factors that play into all this in my specific situation but I just don't see the levels of racial tension that you would think exist in the media. I know the whole "well I never experienced it personally so it must not be true" kind of argument is sort of a fallacy but still I think it's at least somewhat valid given the occupation.

The media does blow the issue way out of proportion, as do certain segments of academia. I mean, I've seen racist incidents here and there over the years, but it's not like it's a huge deal every friggin' time I meet a person of another race. A majority of the time, if you meet someone of another race and you just treat them like a human being, they'll do the same and everybody goes on their way.

[Conserative Morality]

Except the trend of public policy has, for the most part, been against racism. To disturb that trend would require an active, substantial opposition, would it not?

The trend of public policy has been against OVERT racism.

You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it... obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

[Wallenburg]

Except the trend of public policy has, for the most part, been against racism. To disturb that trend would require an active, substantial opposition, would it not?

The trend of public policy has been against OVERT racism.

You start out in 1954 by saying, "Nigger, nigger, nigger." By 1968 you can't say "nigger"—that hurts you. Backfires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states' rights and all that stuff. You're getting so abstract now [that] you're talking about cutting taxes, and all these things you're talking about are totally economic things and a byproduct of them is [that] blacks get hurt worse than whites. And subconsciously maybe that is part of it... obviously sitting around saying, "We want to cut this," is much more abstract than even the busing thing, and a hell of a lot more abstract than "Nigger, nigger."

What you seem to be pointing to is that public policy tends to screw over the poor. That isn't racism, that is classism.

[Lydenburg]

The US would be better off without blacks. The only countries that are better than the US are basically more homogeneous and white. Racial diversity weakens social cohesion, trust, and the ability to cooperate. It creates identity politics, increases crime, causes social problems, etc.

Actually diversity in itself does not.

Segregation, apartheid, minority rule, and other forms of discrimination by colour do, because they force people to look at their differences rather than similarities. Hence the breakdown in social cohesion and identity politicking.

[Nordengrund]

I'm a White male from the South, yet I think the whole anti-immigration thing and Spanish being "unamerican" is stupid. Read the First Amendmen, people! Speak whatever language you want!

[Kravanica]

Identity politics have come to dominate much of the rhetoric in the US. People are more concerned with racial diversity than they are with making sure the best person is assigned to a certain job.

[Italios]

Unfortunately, one's personal experiences or experiences with friends don't serve as proof that racism is not as prevalent as it is thought. Sometimes racism isn't as obvious as "I hate blacks" or "I hate whites," but rather more subtle, yet still a problem that needs fixing. It's my hope that over time, as new values are instilled to younger generations, any kind of hostility towards other races is reduced.

[Ashmoria]

FIRST OFF, I CONSIDER MYSELF RIGHT WING
As a Puerto Rican ( Latin american / Hispanic ) I wonder why some people in mainland USA make a big deal out of race. I have friends of different races and have no problems with them. Most examples are from Youtube videos / Youtube comments saying black stereotypes, hispanic stereotypes, arabian stereotypes, etc. The point is that why do I care if someone has a darker or lighter skin tone than me? For what I know I don't think your color of skin doesn't give you any super powers. When I see local news I don't see people protesting on why are minorities get killed cause I believe most people see a HUMAN getting killed. Another thing is why are people worried if a minority race ( blacks / hispanic ) stop being a minority? I DO NOT WANT PEOPLE INSULTING EACH OTHER OVER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS OR TRYING TO START A FLAME WAR I JUST WANT TO SEE PEOPLE"S OPINION! THANK YOU! (:

when we divide ourselves up by race and are taught to think bad things about those whose defined race is different from our own, it stops us from seeing that the real division in the united states is "haves vs have-nots". if I am so worried that some Mexican is going to take my job that I don't see that it is the CEO at the top who is really deciding about my job it lets him continue in his job-exporting ways without protest.

it is to the benefit of those at the top that we fight each other instead of them.