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Postby Wallenburg » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:39 am

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:As silly this might sound, but do you guys think that white-supremacist terrorism will rise if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency? Because I believe so. :blink:

Probably, since a lot of Trump supporters have been caught on tape openly saying they hate democracy and will try to start a civil war if their god-emperor doesn't get elected.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:39 am

Sareva wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:And this is why sane people are scared of Trump supporters

And this is why I am scared of both Hillary and Trump supporters. Newt fucking Gingrich showed up at my college, I couldn't even get food for fear of getting my ass chewed by random people. The reason? I was wearing a hat with an American flag and Multicam-pattern all over it.


I think both candidates are shit, so I refuse to vote for them. I'll vote for state candidates this year instead.

A lot of those guys aren't much better
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Postby Crockerland » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:40 am

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Crockerland wrote:It doesn't excuse their actions, but people going to Trump rallies to intentionally start shit with Trump supporters at their own rallies getting shoved is not even remotely a problem compared to fucking angry mobs rioting against Trump supporters.

What are you talking about?

Are you seriously going to deny that some Trump supporters are violent because the other side protests more?

Nope, never put words in my mouth again, thanks.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:41 am

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:As silly this might sound, but do you guys think that white-supremacist terrorism will rise if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency? Because I believe so. :blink:

I've never thought of that. But if it didn't rise when Obama was elected why would it start now?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:42 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Ignore the numerous violent anti-trump rallies and the countless assaults on Trump supporters, close your eyes, cover your ears, and shout as loud as you can that Trump's supporters are the violent ones.


This isn't the first time Trump supporters have done a violent act.


It also wouldn't be the first time Hillary supporters have done something to make it seem like Trump supporters are horrible evil people.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:42 am

Crockerland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:What are you talking about?

Are you seriously going to deny that some Trump supporters are violent because the other side protests more?

Nope, never put words in my mouth again, thanks.

I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a question. Big difference
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Postby Sareva » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:42 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Sareva wrote:And this is why I am scared of both Hillary and Trump supporters. Newt fucking Gingrich showed up at my college, I couldn't even get food for fear of getting my ass chewed by random people. The reason? I was wearing a hat with an American flag and Multicam-pattern all over it.


I think both candidates are shit, so I refuse to vote for them. I'll vote for state candidates this year instead.

A lot of those guys aren't much better

You have a point there. At least we aren't dealing with the decision of "which shit would rather have?"
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

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Postby The Portland Territory » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:43 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:As silly this might sound, but do you guys think that white-supremacist terrorism will rise if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency? Because I believe so. :blink:

I've never thought of that. But if it didn't rise when Obama was elected why would it start now?

Well, the racial division did grow more under Obama, so i wouldn't be surprised if it grew more under Clinton, or Trump. Ergo, it's gonna keep growing no matter what
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:45 am

Sareva wrote:
Great Franconia and Verana wrote:And this is why sane people are scared of Trump supporters

And this is why I am scared of both Hillary and Trump supporters. Newt fucking Gingrich showed up at my college, I couldn't even get food for fear of getting my ass chewed by random people. The reason? I was wearing a hat with an American flag and Multicam-pattern all over it.


I think both candidates are shit, so I refuse to vote for them. I'll vote for state candidates this year instead.


Then I honestly don't think it is a good idea to allow yourself to not vote in this election would be more worse. I mean would you want Trump to win by simply not going to voting polls on Election Day?
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:46 am

I thought the wonderful legacy of Joe Cox showed Social-Humanists nobody really cares about false-flags these days?
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Postby Ebliania » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:48 am

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:I thought the wonderful legacy of Joe Cocks showed Social-Humanists nobody really cares about false-flags these days?

:eyebrow:

Who?

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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:49 am

The Portland Territory wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I've never thought of that. But if it didn't rise when Obama was elected why would it start now?

Well, the racial division did grow more under Obama, so i wouldn't be surprised if it grew more under Clinton, or Trump. Ergo, it's gonna keep growing no matter what

Hopefully they will be stopped eventually. Domestic terrorism was a major thing paid attention by the media in the 1980's and 1990's. (Foreign terrorism was also paid attention as well!). Like the Oklahoma City Bombing, Atlanta Olympic Games bombing, Waco Siege, etc. But after 9/11 happened it seemed that all the media decided to pay almost complete attention towards foreign terrorism, especially Islamic extremism. While domestic terrorism was paid less attention to.

If you as me the media should both pay attention to foreign and domestic terrorism. Why? Because it still is terrorism.
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:50 am

Ebliania wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:I thought the wonderful legacy of Joe Cocks showed Social-Humanists nobody really cares about false-flags these days?

:eyebrow:

Who?

A British man apparently
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ma ... ed-4735011
With no indication that of a political motive even projected onto him.
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:As silly this might sound, but do you guys think that white-supremacist terrorism will rise if Hillary Clinton wins the presidency? Because I believe so. :blink:

I've never thought of that. But if it didn't rise when Obama was elected why would it start now?

I wouldn't be surprised honestly. But like I said before just like any terrorism, it will be dealt with and eventually defeated. I have high hopes always.
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Postby Sareva » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:52 am

Southeastern Xiatao wrote:
Sareva wrote:And this is why I am scared of both Hillary and Trump supporters. Newt fucking Gingrich showed up at my college, I couldn't even get food for fear of getting my ass chewed by random people. The reason? I was wearing a hat with an American flag and Multicam-pattern all over it.


I think both candidates are shit, so I refuse to vote for them. I'll vote for state candidates this year instead.


Then I honestly don't think it is a good idea to allow yourself to not vote in this election would be more worse. I mean would you want Trump to win by simply not going to voting polls on Election Day?

What I said was BOTH CANDIDATES ARE SHIT AND I REFUSE TO VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM. If I vote for Hillary, I am voting for someone I equally dislike. It is my right to not vote. I don't have a civic duty to vote for the shiniest of two shitstains.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."

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Postby Crockerland » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:53 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Crockerland wrote:Nope, never put words in my mouth again, thanks.

I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a question. Big difference

Deplorable dishonesty. The "question" was obviously worded to heavily imply that that was the position I took.

Compare "Are you saying that the sky isn't blue?" to "Are you seriously going to deny that the sky is blue?"; The ladder does not make sense if the person the question is directed at has not denied the sky being blue.
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Postby Implacable Death » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:54 am

Sareva wrote:
Southeastern Xiatao wrote:
Then I honestly don't think it is a good idea to allow yourself to not vote in this election would be more worse. I mean would you want Trump to win by simply not going to voting polls on Election Day?

What I said was BOTH CANDIDATES ARE SHIT AND I REFUSE TO VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM. If I vote for Hillary, I am voting for someone I equally dislike. It is my right to not vote. I don't have a civic duty to vote for the shiniest of two shitstains.


Your wording made laugh because it reminded me of an ERB battle: https://youtu.be/dX_1B0w7Hzc?t=2m19s
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:55 am

Uiiop wrote:
Ebliania wrote::eyebrow:

Who?

A British man apparently
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ma ... ed-4735011
With no indication that of a political motive even projected onto him.


I never say 'kek', but if I did, now would be a time where I did so.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:56 am

Crockerland wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I didn't put words in your mouth, I asked you a question. Big difference

Deplorable dishonesty. The "question" was obviously worded to heavily imply that that was the position I took.

Compare "Are you saying that the sky isn't blue?" to "Are you seriously going to deny that the sky is blue?"; The ladder does not make sense if the person the question is directed at has not denied the sky being blue.

It was still a question none the less. It seemed like you where denying the existence of violent Trump supporters and blaming the other side for making innocent Trump supporters violent
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Postby Southeastern Xiatao » Wed Nov 02, 2016 10:56 am

This is election is full defintion of the TV Trope, Black and White Morality. No middle ground whatsoever....

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BlackAndWhiteMorality
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Postby Sareva » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:02 am

Implacable Death wrote:
Sareva wrote:What I said was BOTH CANDIDATES ARE SHIT AND I REFUSE TO VOTE FOR EITHER OF THEM. If I vote for Hillary, I am voting for someone I equally dislike. It is my right to not vote. I don't have a civic duty to vote for the shiniest of two shitstains.


Your wording made laugh because it reminded me of an ERB battle: https://youtu.be/dX_1B0w7Hzc?t=2m19s

I don't have to click the link to know what you are talking about. That's why I put it in there.
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Sareva wrote:They're ancoms LARPing as vigilantes in the name of anti-fascism while acting like the National Socialist Party in Daesh-inspired clothing.

That's quite possibly the best description of antifa I've ever heard.

Zanera wrote:Asteroids are terrorists. They support a Anarchist Rock agenda, and will attack any large rock bodies such as planets in order to scare the rest of the solar system, and will sometimes just threaten planets by going close to them as a sign saying," Anarchism rulez."

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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:02 am

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:A British man apparently
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/ma ... ed-4735011
With no indication that of a political motive even projected onto him.


I never say 'kek', but if I did, now would be a time where I did so.

Well it's not like you provided another man with the same nameor proved that he was a false flag...somehow. Maybe your Drug department was actually high as fuck and thought this would be a good idea

Oh wait the female lawmaker is one who you were referring to....well maybe i haven't see all of but "It was so convenient to them" even if true doesn't seem like solid evidence for them making it up. Under that logic Watergate can't have been real. The democrats got a boon with that one.
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:04 am

Uiiop wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
I never say 'kek', but if I did, now would be a time where I did so.

Well it's not like you provided another man with the same nameor proved that he was a false flag...somehow. Maybe your Drug department was actually high as fuck and thought this would be a good idea

Oh wait the lawmaker is one who were referring to...oh...well maybe i haven't see all of but "It was so convenient to them" even if true doesn't seem like solid evidence for them making it up. Under that logic Watergate can't have been real. The democrats got a boon with that one.


Watergate wasn't real, Nixon was framed doing the behaviour any dignified head of state engages in because he had successfully challenged the Social-Humanist establishment.
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Postby Uiiop » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:06 am

Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Well it's not like you provided another man with the same nameor proved that he was a false flag...somehow. Maybe your Drug department was actually high as fuck and thought this would be a good idea

Oh wait the lawmaker is one who were referring to...oh...well maybe i haven't see all of but "It was so convenient to them" even if true doesn't seem like solid evidence for them making it up. Under that logic Watergate can't have been real. The democrats got a boon with that one.


Watergate wasn't real, Nixon was framed doing the behaviour any dignified head of state engages in because he had successfully challenged the Social-Humanist establishment.

Alright the benghazi attacks can't be because it was politically convenient for republicans.
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Postby Even Less of Mackonia » Wed Nov 02, 2016 11:07 am

Uiiop wrote:
Even Less of Mackonia wrote:
Watergate wasn't real, Nixon was framed doing the behaviour any dignified head of state engages in because he had successfully challenged the Social-Humanist establishment.

Alright the benghazi attacks can't be because it was politically convenient for republicans.


The Republican Party do not have the resources nor incentive to organise an attack on a U.S embassy, and given that the Republican Party are largely puppets of the Democratic Party, why would they want to sabotage them?
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