Right Wing Discussion Thread The Fourth

[Germanic Templars]

So here is a question: If capitalism is more private ownership fueled to make a profit, and profit is made off of supply and demand, then does that mean the business listens to the people? As in, like, make money off people want?

[Jochizyd Republic]

I can sort of relate to what Benuty says.

I went pretty full Reactionary.

Although that had more to do with going to a new Mosque and finding another Sheikh and making new friends there. Also with reading various things over Ramadan that swayed my position at that time.

I'm glad that you embraced monarchism.

Haha. I'm glad too. Barakah (continuity of spiritual presence) does not flow from below. And Monarchic structures I think are the best bet to preserve a heritage without resulting to anything hateful.

[Dushan]

I'm glad that you embraced monarchism.

Haha. I'm glad too. Barakah (continuity of spiritual presence) does not flow from below. And Monarchic structures I think are the best bet to preserve a heritage without resulting to anything hateful.

Would you say that this spritual presence can also be passed on to other People through Books and by extension the Internet?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Haha. I'm glad too. Barakah (continuity of spiritual presence) does not flow from below. And Monarchic structures I think are the best bet to preserve a heritage without resulting to anything hateful.

Would you say that this spritual presence can also be passed on to other People through Books and by extension the Internet?

Ehhh. Books are good. But you do need a personal spiritual guide as well. That's kind of the point of Sufism.

[The Princes of the Universe]

I think I am becoming more radicalized the longer I spend time here.

Really? I feel like I've become more liberal and centrist as a result of posting here, as if in horrified recoil.

Being in this place has shown me just what kind of garbage modern liberalism is. Just look at the kind of degeneracy developed as legitimate authorities ceded or were stripped of power in favour of people not competent to wield it.

[Unnamed island state]

Would you say that this spritual presence can also be passed on to other People through Books and by extension the Internet?

Ehhh. Books are good. But you do need a personal spiritual guide as well. That's kind of the point of Sufism.

Is that why it's losing to Saudi Islam?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Ehhh. Books are good. But you do need a personal spiritual guide as well. That's kind of the point of Sufism.

Is that why it's losing to Saudi Islam?

Maybe. I wouldn't say losing just to that but to Modernism, even within Sufism.

I don't understand what people see in Puritanism. It's disgusting. (I actually do know the causes behind it. But I just don't understand why on a personal level)

Rebelling against Traditional Authority by Personal Itjihad, I understand. But I don't understand why Muslims would just go
"Ey, Akhi, lets make new Clerical Authorities instead of these weird head-in-the-cloud mystics"
"Oh, like really liberal ones that let me do whatever I want?"
"What?...No! Ones that are so much more strict and get involved in every aspect of my life for me! Get my fuckin' balls in a vice. Make me squeal. Know what I mean bro?!"
"Brother...Why would you want that?"
"Muh literalism faggot."
"...This sounds like that Protestantism thing the Christians tried, bro"
"SHUT UP THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!"
*CHOP*

[Nusaresa]

>tfw this reeks of standard western feminism non-liberation

Honestly when someone says egalitarian for gender etc etc they're shunting themselves as feminists regardless of how much they kick and scream. Of course there are actual 'antis' and they also make a nice proportion of this godforsaken planet.

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If Humanity could fight God, gods, angels, and demons... should they? What say ye RWDT.

...Huh.

I think if we had that power we should fight demons and be able to serve God better. But We would never be able to fight God, astaghfirullah.

I'd be much more willing to fight against God and demons come what may. If the whole duality of good and evil started with such divine beings, wiping them out for a clean slate would be a form of liberation from the war of such 'good' and 'evil' forces.

So here is a question: If capitalism is more private ownership fueled to make a profit, and profit is made off of supply and demand, then does that mean the business listens to the people? As in, like, make money off people want?

It listens to consumers and other forces of demand.

I think I am becoming more radicalized the longer I spend time here.

Really? I feel like I've become more liberal and centrist as a result of posting here, as if in horrified recoil.

I feel myself being pulled back into neoliberal hawk mode out of sheer spite and disdain.

Is that why it's losing to Saudi Islam?

Maybe. I wouldn't say losing just to that but to Modernism, even within Sufism.

I don't understand what people see in Puritanism. It's disgusting. (I actually do know the causes behind it. But I just don't understand why on a personal level)

Rebelling against Traditional Authority by Personal Itjihad, I understand. But I don't understand why Muslims would just go
"Ey, Akhi, lets make new Clerical Authorities instead of these weird head-in-the-cloud mystics"
"Oh, like really liberal ones that let me do whatever I want?"
"What?...No! Ones that are so much more strict and get involved in every aspect of my life for me! Get my fuckin' balls in a vice. Make me squeal. Know what I mean bro?!"
"Brother...Why would you want that?"
"Muh literalism faggot."
"...This sounds like that Protestantism thing the Christians tried, bro"
"SHUT UP THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!"
*CHOP*

Modernist Islam is still leagues better than Salafi nutwhackers.

I'd dare say that Sufism, while great, is not palatable for everyone. Especially considering the conditions of this world.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Is that why it's losing to Saudi Islam?

Maybe. I wouldn't say losing just to that but to Modernism, even within Sufism.
I don't understand what people see in Puritanism. It's disgusting. (I actually do know the causes behind it. But I just don't understand why on a personal level)
Rebelling against Traditional Authority by Personal Itjihad, I understand. But I don't understand why Muslims would just go
"Ey, Akhi, lets make new Clerical Authorities instead of these weird head-in-the-cloud mystics"
"Oh, like really liberal ones that let me do whatever I want?"
"What?...No! Ones that are so much more strict and get involved in every aspect of my life for me! Get my fuckin' balls in a vice. Make me squeal. Know what I mean bro?!"
"Brother...Why would you want that?"
"Muh literalism faggot."
"...This sounds like that Protestantism thing the Christians tried, bro"
"SHUT UP THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!"
*CHOP*

Speaking of scriptural literalism and Protestants... How is it that, among certain subsets thereof, Genesis is Totally Factual and Not Up for Any Debate Whatsoever™, but yet this is My body and this is My blood in Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22 are Just a Figure of Speech™?

[The New Sea Territory]

Joch has point. Besides fighting God is like the Nordic mythology and the gods in the final battle.

The gods and all those who went to Valhalla lose in the end to the ice trolls

The jotnar don't fair too well either. Jormungandr and Thor defeat one another, Freyr and Surt defeat one another, Loki and Heimdallr defeat one another, Fenrir kills Odin but gets his jaw ripped off by Vidarr...

Your allusion only makes sense if we count the Aesir's losses in a vacuum. Considering Vidarr, Vali and a few other Gods survive while basically all the Giants are dead (except Hel, who doesn't do anything cool), I'd say the Aesir could claim a pyrrhic victory.

Join the centrist side, we have cookies.

>centrist side
You're the middle, you don't get a side.

Haven't you heard? They get one side of the horseshoe, and the rest of us get the two ends of the horseshoe right next to each other!

[Nusaresa]

Maybe. I wouldn't say losing just to that but to Modernism, even within Sufism.
I don't understand what people see in Puritanism. It's disgusting. (I actually do know the causes behind it. But I just don't understand why on a personal level)
Rebelling against Traditional Authority by Personal Itjihad, I understand. But I don't understand why Muslims would just go
"Ey, Akhi, lets make new Clerical Authorities instead of these weird head-in-the-cloud mystics"
"Oh, like really liberal ones that let me do whatever I want?"
"What?...No! Ones that are so much more strict and get involved in every aspect of my life for me! Get my fuckin' balls in a vice. Make me squeal. Know what I mean bro?!"
"Brother...Why would you want that?"
"Muh literalism faggot."
"...This sounds like that Protestantism thing the Christians tried, bro"
"SHUT UP THIS IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT!!"
*CHOP*

Speaking of scriptural literalism and Protestants... How is it that, among certain subsets thereof, Genesis is Totally Factual and Not Up for Any Debate Whatsoever™, but yet this is My body and this is My blood in Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22 are Just a Figure of Speech™?

r/badtheology that's why *nod*

[Jochizyd Republic]

Modernist Islam is still leagues better than Salafi nutwhackers.

Yeah. I'd argue Salafism is Modernist by definition. But the Islamic Modernist school of thought, while I don't agree with it, *nervously hides copy of Iqbal's Reconstruction of Religious Thought in drawer* is usually better than them by leagues. Still absolutely counterproductive of them to advocate radical reform to the Hadith and even Qur'an and bringing back Mu'tazilism.

And they're absolutely responsible for Salafism.

I'd dare say that Sufism, while great, is not palatable for everyone. Especially considering the conditions of this world.

Maybe not. But people need it.

[Conserative Morality]

Speaking of scriptural literalism and Protestants... How is it that, among certain subsets thereof, Genesis is Totally Factual and Not Up for Any Debate Whatsoever™, but yet this is My body and this is My blood in Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22 are Just a Figure of Speech™?

Because evangelicals make their theology based on what they think is or is not weird.

[The V O I D]

Speaking of scriptural literalism and Protestants... How is it that, among certain subsets thereof, Genesis is Totally Factual and Not Up for Any Debate Whatsoever™, but yet this is My body and this is My blood in Matthew 26, Mark 14, and Luke 22 are Just a Figure of Speech™?

Because evangelicals make their theology based on what they think is or is not weird.

For example. Gays, to evangelicals, are weird. Therefor, they advocate and point out theology against gays and the LGBT Community, because they're "weird" / "different".

I've even heard some evangelicals claim that we should obey some passage in the Bible that supposedly advocates the stoning of gays and the like.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Haven't you heard? They get one side of the horseshoe, and the rest of us get the two ends of the horseshoe right next to each other!

Anarchists are the worst Leftists.

*Instinctively cringes in preparation for a wall of text from Prus*

Worse than Maoists.

[Aelex]

The English are the face of mercy so yes it would be insulting to compare our godly nature to you French.

If your nature was inspired by Gods, it must have been by cruel albeit really humourous chaos deities.

[Conserative Morality]

Anarchists are the worst Leftists.

*Instinctively cringes in preparation for a wall of text from Prus*

Worse than Maoists.

As an anti-anarchist, may I remind you that anarchists just fuck up when they win and make small-scale mob rule societies, whereas when Maoists win they make Stalinism on steroids?

[Jochizyd Republic]

Because evangelicals make their theology based on what they think is or is not weird.

For example. Gays, to evangelicals, are weird. Therefor, they advocate and point out theology against gays and the LGBT Community, because they're "weird" / "different".

I've even heard some evangelicals claim that we should obey some passage in the Bible that supposedly advocates the stoning of gays and the like.

Oh. Yeah theres a disturbing amount of people like that among Evangelicals. They've mostly faded though.

[Jochizyd Republic]

Anarchists are the worst Leftists.

*Instinctively cringes in preparation for a wall of text from Prus*

Worse than Maoists.

As an anti-anarchist, may I remind you that anarchists just fuck up when they win and make small-scale mob rule societies, whereas when Maoists win they make Stalinism on steroids?

Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.

[The V O I D]

For example. Gays, to evangelicals, are weird. Therefor, they advocate and point out theology against gays and the LGBT Community, because they're "weird" / "different".

I've even heard some evangelicals claim that we should obey some passage in the Bible that supposedly advocates the stoning of gays and the like.

Oh. Yeah theres a disturbing amount of people like that among Evangelicals. They've mostly faded though.

Any amount that is above zero that advocates the stoning of LGBT people is a disturbing amount.

[Nusaresa]

Modernist Islam is still leagues better than Salafi nutwhackers.

Yeah. I'd argue Salafism is Modernist by definition. But the Islamic Modernist school of thought, while I don't agree with it, *nervously hides copy of Iqbal's Reconstruction of Religious Thought in drawer* is usually better than them by leagues. Still absolutely counterproductive of them to advocate radical reform to the Hadith and even Qur'an and bringing back Mu'tazilism.

And they're absolutely responsible for Salafism.

I'd dare say that Sufism, while great, is not palatable for everyone. Especially considering the conditions of this world.

Maybe not. But people need it.

True. But it's a necessary method to take in more 'modernist' societies that lack a desire to go to spiritual roots or are more acquainted with such a form of Islam.

I see modernism as a filter. It catches extremists easily in a weird way.

As an anti-anarchist, may I remind you that anarchists just fuck up when they win and make small-scale mob rule societies, whereas when Maoists win they make Stalinism on steroids?

Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.

I'm sigging this.

[Conserative Morality]

Death by honorable child soldier is less humiliating than death by Antifa activist.

Also more likely to result in death, considering the incompetence of Antifas.

1 Child Soldier = 5 Antifas

[Jochizyd Republic]

Oh. Yeah theres a disturbing amount of people like that among Evangelicals. They've mostly faded though.

Any amount that is above zero that advocates the stoning of LGBT people is a disturbing amount.

There are even more among Muslims, sadly.

Probably very close to half.

Which goes for Muslim fundamentalists in the World Muslim community in general.

[United Marxist Nations]

Because evangelicals make their theology based on what they think is or is not weird.

For example. Gays, to evangelicals, are weird. Therefor, they advocate and point out theology against gays and the LGBT Community, because they're "weird" / "different".

I've even heard some evangelicals claim that we should obey some passage in the Bible that supposedly advocates the stoning of gays and the like.

>tfw Evangelicals don't know even basic Church history, so they don't realize that you're not supposed to do the whole Mosaic law thing anymore
The death penalty is pretty much condemned by Christ specifically. We can use plenty of ways of admonishing people without killing them.

[Khadgar]

No longer relevant.