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Postby Major-Tom » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:56 am

Human nature has always been ruthless. The key is to find the slimmers of good nature and selflessness in a sea of barbarism.

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Postby Imperium Sidhicum » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:28 pm

When was the last time humans DIDN'T hate each other with a passion?

In a world of finite resources, there has always been fierce competition between different groups, "us" versus "them", the exact standards that define the difference being subject to change and irrelevant. That is how it was, that is how it is, and that is how it always will be. Even if humanity reduced itself to androgynous clones with a hivemind, they would still find a way to divide in rival groups of more and less orthodox androgynous hiveminded clones that would continue to fight each other.

Since there is obviously nothing that can be done about people hating other people, I find it's best to just embrace things as they are, to care just about one group you are the most closely affiliated with to the exclusion of everyone else. Being a bleeding-heart do-gooder and trying to show sympathy to everyone fundamentally accomplishes nothing and just ends up bringing disappointment.

If you feel the desire to do good, do it to the people who actually matter in your life and accept that you cannot help everyone. And more importantly, recognize that not everyone you wish to help shares the same sentiment about you, there being many who will seek to undermine your efforts to their benefit, and at your expense.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sat Sep 24, 2016 1:23 pm

Humans naturally group together by ideology, race, ethnicity, culture and language.

Nothing has changed, only it's visibility on the internet. Anonymity means the veneer of civilization and social politeness is gone. The 'hateful' people, such as myself, are everywhere. They just aren't as visible in real life because of the potential consequences of stating those opinions.

Think about that.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Sat Sep 24, 2016 4:32 pm

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:What a strange interpretation of a noble goal.
It's the equivalent to saying "being polite to strangers is showing weakness", that's not how it works.

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I think our ancestors had a significant impact on our lives, considering without them we wouldn't be here.

Colonisation wasn't like that, immigration isn't like that.

People can be cruel, that doesn't mean people are always cruel.


Not really. It's pointing out that just because people SAY something is tolerant, doesn't mean it's a good idea. It'd be extraordinarily tolerant of someone to allow someone else to stab them to death as they turn the other cheek. I'd still advise them NOT to do that, because it'd be a terrible idea.

Nonsensical statements are Nonsensical.

That's hardly a significant impact.

Colonization WAS like that, that's why people get pissed off about it. And Immigration is EXACTLY like that.

Who said any of this was cruel? It's just the way things are. If you stick your hand in a campfire and get burned, it's not the one who built the campfires cruelty that caused your pain.
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Postby Scandinavian Nations » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:09 pm

Major-Tom wrote:Human nature has always been ruthless. The key is to find the slimmers of good nature and selflessness in a sea of barbarism.

And stamp them out.
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Postby Ralkovian Grand Island » Sat Sep 24, 2016 7:19 pm

Because our leaders in the West opened our borders and flooded our country with people from the 3rd world. And this would be fine, if they were like East Asians, who generally try to assimilate as quick as possible, but they flooded us with people who can barely hold down a functioning society in their own home country.
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Postby Nusaresa » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:44 pm

So long as humans have ego and desire, there will always be hate, anger, and suffering.

Not that it's a bad thing. One can use desire to change things for the better. But some get drunk on their desires and hate and anger, and tada, you get a good chunk of this world. This slimy, cruel, yet truly beautiful world.
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Postby Herador » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:45 pm

Ralkovian Grand Island wrote:Because our leaders in the West opened our borders and flooded our country with people from the 3rd world. And this would be fine, if they were like East Asians, who generally try to assimilate as quick as possible, but they flooded us with people who can barely hold down a functioning society in their own home country.

Right, this is all new and because of brown people. Sure dude, sure.
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Postby Xadufell » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:46 pm

Pppfffft, NO.

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Postby Aclion » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:46 pm

We've always hated each other, you jerk!
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Postby Lorduex » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:48 pm

People have always been hateful towards each other. It is the human nature, to constantly evolve and advance. Whether that involves having to be hateful or peaceful is up to the human race.
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Postby Nickel Empire » Sat Sep 24, 2016 8:50 pm

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Postby Freefall11111 » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:33 pm

"Become"?

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Postby Mattopilos » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:34 pm

Nusaresa wrote:So long as humans have ego and desire, there will always be hate, anger, and suffering.

Not that it's a bad thing. One can use desire to change things for the better. But some get drunk on their desires and hate and anger, and tada, you get a good chunk of this world. This slimy, cruel, yet truly beautiful world.


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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sat Sep 24, 2016 9:38 pm

Hate is natural, hate is good.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:34 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:Hate is natural, hate is good.

Natural does not equate to good. Smallpox is natural.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:36 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:Hate is natural, hate is good.

Natural does not equate to good. Smallpox is natural.


Hate Drives.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:39 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Natural does not equate to good. Smallpox is natural.


Hate Drives.

Towards ruin.
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Postby Atomic Utopia » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:44 pm

Homo homini lupus est.

And it most probably will always be that way barring major alterations to human thought patterns. Humans are greedy, deeply illogical, horrible at judging risk, impulsive, and excessively violent.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sat Sep 24, 2016 11:59 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Hate Drives.

Towards ruin.


Towards Unity.

Hate is a very powerful unifying force.
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Postby Neanderthaland » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:00 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Towards ruin.


Towards Unity.

Hate is a very powerful unifying force.

If you define unity as factionalism, sure.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:06 am

Neanderthaland wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Towards Unity.

Hate is a very powerful unifying force.

If you define unity as factionalism, sure.


It depends on what you're hating. To be fractional, you must be a part of something larger.

You don't have to hate something that used to be a part of you.
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:07 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Neanderthaland wrote:Towards ruin.


Towards Unity.

Hate is a very powerful unifying force.

I would just love for you to point to a time in history when blind hate won out in a positive way.

Nazi's? Nope.

McCarthy? Nope.

CSA? Nope.

Segregation? Nope.

Rwandan Genocide? Nope.

Cambodian Genocide? Nope.

ISIS/ISIL? Nope.

Armenian Genocide? Nope.

Indian Wars? Nope.

Tibet? Nope.

etc. etc.
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Postby Imperial Union of America » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:09 am

Herador wrote:
Imperial Union of America wrote:
Towards Unity.

Hate is a very powerful unifying force.

I would just love for you to point to a time in history when blind hate won out in a positive way.

Nazi's? Nope.

McCarthy? Nope.

CSA? Nope.

Segregation? Nope.

Rwandan Genocide? Nope.

Cambodian Genocide? Nope.

ISIS/ISIL? Nope.

Armenian Genocide? Nope.

Indian Wars? Nope.

Tibet? Nope.

etc. etc.


As a national socialist, i don't believe i can answer that question. I kind of like staying out of trouble.
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Postby Herador » Sun Sep 25, 2016 12:10 am

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Herador wrote:I would just love for you to point to a time in history when blind hate won out in a positive way.

Nazi's? Nope.

McCarthy? Nope.

CSA? Nope.

Segregation? Nope.

Rwandan Genocide? Nope.

Cambodian Genocide? Nope.

ISIS/ISIL? Nope.

Armenian Genocide? Nope.

Indian Wars? Nope.

Tibet? Nope.

etc. etc.


As a national socialist, i don't believe i can answer that question.

So then you can't think of a time when hate was a legitimate force for good with positive results? Fucking funny that, eh?
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