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Kylaris
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Democratic Socialists

Kylaris Recruitment Thread (ARCHIVED)

Postby Kylaris » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:14 am

K Y L A R I S

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Getting Started:

Grey-lands without established claims are open to be applied for. Each continent and region of the continents has a different culture, so it is best to check in either in this thread or in our Discord if you have any questions. The Help Sheet, which is linked above, is especially helpful for sorting out what culture is where in these unclaimed regions of the map. In addition to applying for unclaimed territories, nations colored in dark-grey on the map are NPCs that can be applied for. If you have any questions about them, please ask in this thread or the Discord. Additional information for the NPCs can generally be found on iiwiki as well.

Application:

As with most regions, Kylaris, while open to new members, does have an application for you to fill out if you wish to join. The application template is below this paragraph, and it is recommended that you try your best to fill out each section to the level that you are capable of. Some aspects of nation-building and nation-roleplaying, such as armed forces, are not present in the application, as for the most part these details will be discussed and worked on later with input from the regional government and the other members of the region. There are two applications: one for the average state and one for players who want to roleplay a great or secondary power. The latter will be required to fill out more information so we can get a feel for how this new major geopolitical player would fit into the canon.

Application for Major Powers:

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[box][b]National information[/b]
[b]Official Name: [/b](What is your official nation name? For example, "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".)
[b]Shortened Name:[/b] (Something that most people know your nation by, something that tends to be shorter than its official name. For example, "Britain" instead of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".)
[b]Requested Location:[/b] (Please provide a map of your desired claims.)
[b]RP Population:[/b] (This is a preliminary number, and is only used to gauge the size you wish for your nation to be. Less than 150 million for the most part; depending on the location, the actual limit may be higher or lower. May be subject to change. Coian nations may be allowed exception to the 150 rule.)
[b]Culture:[/b] (A brief summation of the nation's culture, language, and so forth. If it has a real-world equivalent or inspiration, be sure to list it here.)
[list][*][b]Ethnicity:[/b] (What is the primary ethnic group of your country? What other ethnic groups are present?)
[*][b]Religion:[/b] (What is the dominate religion, if any, in your country? What religious minorities are present?)
[*][b]Languages:[/b] (What language dominates the country? Are there any other official national or regional languages? What languages are present but do not receive a special status?[/list]
[b]Government Type:[/b] (A general classification of your nation's government type - For example, Absolute Monarchy, Single-Party State, Democratic Republic.)
[b]Head of State:[/b] (In most cases, the leading diplomatic authority in the nation, in some cases the most powerful person in nations such as presidential republics.)
[b]Head of Government:[/b] (The Head of Government is usually, though not always, the second-most powerful person in the nation. They lead the governmental apparatus as opposed to the state itself, deriving their power from, in most cases, the nation’s legislature.)

[b]Major Power Status:[/b]
[list][*][b]Predominant Ideology of the Power:[/b] (Hopefully linked to the Kylaris Ideologies)
[*][b]“Bloc Name”: [/b](The way international press or other states will refer to your allegiances; "The EC" for example)
[*][b]Foreign Policy Ambitions of the Power:[/b] (Foreign outlook)
[*][b]GDP Per Capita: [/b](How much money does the average citizen earn)
[*][b]Percentage of GDP spent on Military: [/b](How much of your state's wealth is spent on the military)
[*][b]Capability to Project Power:[/b] (Bases, navies, airforces, cultural ties, borders, programmes: anything that extends your influence)[/list]

[b]History Post the Great War and a Summary of Previous Events:[/b]

"[b]Social views:[/b]
[list][*][b]General population's view on gay rights/gay people:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on religions other than the primary one:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on atheism:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on abortion:[/b]
[*][b]View on other races/ethnic groups other than the primary one(s):[/b]
[*][b]Any big prejudices in your nation [/b]
[*][b]View on immigration into country:[/b]
[*][b]Women's Rights:[/b]
[*][b]Views on tobacco/alcohol/pot/other drugs:[/b][/list]"

[b]Other:[/b]
[list][*][b]Factbook:[/b] (IIWiki preferred. Not required, but helpful if you have one already.)
[*][b]RP Preferences:[/b] (What kind of RPs do you prefer? Military? Diplomatic? Character driven?)
[*][b]RP Samples:[/b] (If not available, ask for a prompt.)
[*][b]Primary/Other NS Nations: [/b]
[*][b]Any troubles with moderation? (If so, a link, please.): [/b]
[*][b]Anything else?:[/b] [/list][/box]


Application for Non-Major Powers:

Code: Select all
[box][b]National information[/b]
[b]Official Name: [/b](What is your official nation name? For example, "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".)
[b]Shortened Name:[/b] (Something that most people know your nation by, something that tends to be shorter than its official name. For example, "Britain" instead of "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland".)
[b]Requested Location:[/b] (Please provide a map of your desired claims.)
[b]RP Population:[/b] (This is a preliminary number, and is only used to gauge the size you wish for your nation to be. Less than 150 million for the most part; depending on the location, the actual limit may be higher or lower. May be subject to change. Coian nations may be allowed exception to the 150 rule.)
[b]Culture:[/b] (A brief summation of the nation's culture, language, and so forth. If it has a real-world equivalent or inspiration, be sure to list it here.)
[list][*][b]Ethnicity:[/b] (What is the primary ethnic group of your country? What other ethnic groups are present?)
[*][b]Religion:[/b] (What is the dominate religion, if any, in your country? What religious minorities are present?)
[*][b]GDP Per Capita: [/b](How much money does the average citizen earn)
[*][b]Languages:[/b] (What language dominates the country? Are there any other official national or regional languages? What languages are present but do not receive a special status?[/list]
[b]Government Type:[/b] (A general classification of your nation's government type - For example, Absolute Monarchy, Single-Party State, Democratic Republic.)
[b]Head of State:[/b] (In most cases, the leading diplomatic authority in the nation, in some cases the most powerful person in nations such as presidential republics.)
[b]Head of Government:[/b] (The Head of Government is usually, though not always, the second-most powerful person in the nation. They lead the governmental apparatus as opposed to the state itself, deriving their power from, in most cases, the nation’s legislature.)
[b]National Overview:[/b] (A brief summary of your nation's general history, political ideology, and society.)

[b]Social views:[/b]
[list][*][b]General population's view on gay rights/gay people:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on religions other than the primary one:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on atheism:[/b]
[*][b]General population's view on abortion:[/b]
[*][b]View on other races/ethnic groups other than the primary one(s):[/b]
[*][b]Any big prejudices in your nation [/b]
[*][b]View on immigration into country:[/b]
[*][b]Women's Rights:[/b]
[*][b]Views on tobacco/alcohol/pot/other drugs:[/b][/list]

[b]Other:[/b]
[list][*][b]Factbook:[/b] (IIWiki preferred. Not required, but helpful if you have one already.)
[*][b]RP Preferences:[/b] (What kind of RPs do you prefer? Military? Diplomatic? Character driven?)
[*][b]RP Samples:[/b] (If not available, ask for a prompt.)
[*][b]RP Intentions:[/b] (What do you plan on doing with this nation? Role-play? World-building? Both? Etc.)
[*][b]Primary/Other NS Nations: [/b]
[*][b]Any troubles with moderation? (If so, a link, please.): [/b]
[*][b]Anything else?:[/b] [/list][/box]
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Lunas Legion
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Psychotic Dictatorship

Postby Lunas Legion » Wed Aug 03, 2016 7:15 am

Dropping this here so I can keep track of this thread.
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Confirmed member of Kylaris Loominarty Membership can be applied for here

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Reatra
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Reatra » Wed Aug 03, 2016 8:28 pm

National information
Official Name: The Great and Grand Revolutionary Proletarian Impirrenship of Reatra
Shortened Name: Reatra, the PIR, Communist Reatra (unofficial)
Requested Location: The orange?
RP Population: I was hoping for this to be the Communist China to our current Soviet Union. I'd think more than 150 million, but if not then 144.64 million.
Culture and Ethnicity: The language, called Rynatoonii, is not-so obviously an Indo-Euclean language, but certain grammatical aspects (such as the "n" sound being used for most negative responses) show its heritage. Centuries ago the vast majority of the Reatrist nation was assimilated into this Rynatoonii language and culture, which is why the nation was able to stick together very well during the May Fifth Revolution. Many aspects of ancient Rynatoonii culture are actively being phased out due to the current "proletarian" ideals of the state. The millennia-old hierarchy, collectivism, and obsession with efficiency are hard to destroy, though, and the CRC is willing to use this to advance the cause of the revolution. Food and dress is still celebrated for being Reatrist, and some small aspects of nationalism are tolerated by the CRC, due to the difficulty in getting rid of them.
Government Type: One party state under the careful guiding hand of Comrade Impirren RyRy
Head of State: Comrade Impirren RyRy (some might say Comrade Eren Danoline might suffice as a head of state)
Head of Government: De jure, Comrade Minister Wolff. De facto, Comrade Impirren RyRy
National Overview: Formerly an absolute monarchy run by a perpetually efficient bureaucracy, class consciousness spread during the decades after the first industrial revolutions. For years the Impirren tried to appease the workers with small concessions, shorter work weeks, better pay, etc., but the oppressive nature of capitalism still stood. The May Fifth Revolution changed that, as petitions turned to protests turned to riots turned to battles turned to guerilla armies fighting the state. Three hundred thousand Reatrists died, but their deaths were not in vain! As the oppressive Impirren and his class-traitors of an army were replaced by the... Uh... Impirren... We don't talk much about that part. The point is, though, that now instead of Reatrism the children are being taught Socialism. The CRC, or Communist Reatrist Council, keeps the citizens safe as we transition to a fully communist country.

The problem, though, is that the revolution a not finished until every country is socialist.

That's why we've been building quite a few million rifles to send to rebels.


Other:
Factbook: I never really got into the actual NS part of NS, so never made a factbook. Any suggestions?
RP Preferences: Less military and more economic and diplomatic RPs, but I can do really anything if I get into it.
RP Samples: Something I wrote about half a year ago and never finished.
The Sun rose quickly, within minutes the slopes and rooftops had been illuminated by the warm light. Chaska looked at the bright rooftops from her perch higher on the hill. A small hamlet, Hatun Q'iru was her birthplace and her home most of the year. Only a hundred people lived here, half of which (the men) raised llamas and alpacas while the other half (the women) weaved wool into colorful clothing. Chaska knew that their shoes and hats came from the Piruwanu cities miles away, most down in the lowlands and full of people and grey buildings. Every so often a few men would make the trek up to the villages of her people and they would sell and trade what they had. Clothes, exotic foods, and other goods. Then the Q'iru people would give them the beautiful clothes and woolen goods they wove, in addition to some excess crops and whatnot. The men who sold things (who called themselves "caravanas") would then be on their way, back down the slopes, back to their cities and their neighbors and their masses of people. What a life to live. The oldest of the village would tell of times years ago when the men who sold things would come to Q'iru lands much more often, when the Q'iru had more of their things and less of the Q'iru things. The oldest of the village spoke of times long ago when their brothers and sons would go down to the big grey cities and learn histories that even the wisest paqos didn't know, and would marry women who were thinner and taller than the Q'iru. They usually would never return. Then, according to the oldest of the village, one year the men who sold things simply didn't come. And the next year they didn't come until the middle of winter. And then after that they would come less and less, and to this day when the men who sold things would come it was a village-wide affair. Everyone gathered in the tiny plaza, and if they were the first village that the men who sold things had visited, then runners would be dispatched to the other villages to tell them of the arrival. The chief elders of that village would greet the men who sold things, with younger learned men translating the Q'iru runasimi into kastillasimi, and then with the elders giving "gifts" (which were really the opening trade items).

Chaska was worried, though, she couldn't remember the last time the men who sold things had come! She asked the oldest of the village, and they too were worried. Perhaps the Piruwanu in the lowlands had once again decided that the Q'iru weren't worth their time.
"This may be another year with none of the Piruwanu shoes" one said.
"Perhaps we should ask the elders of the other villages what they think?" Another suggested.
"I do believe that would be the best action to take." A third elder agreed.

So five fast young men were told to run to the other villages and ask their elders to come to Hatun Q'iro and discuss. They were each given enough food and water to last them the journey (one had to only run for an hour, another for three days), plus some coca leaves if they got sick or fatigued. Some hours later the first one came back, and reported that the elders were on their way, as did the next four over the course of six days.

Chaska was far too young to be immediately notified of any agreements made by this impromptu "council", yet it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because the group of the elders decided to simply wait, continue to herd llamas and weave wool, continue to move down the slopes to till the fields with the foot-plows and harvest the potatoes and maize.

Weeks passed and no men who sold things came to the highlands.

Then months.

Spring came and no new shoes or straw hats were worn.

As did Summer.

As did Autumn.

Winter had come again, and no lowlanders came.

It had been a long time, too long, even longer than the years the oldest of the village lived through, and so the elders of the all the villages met once again, and decided they would send the fast young men down to the lowlands to see why the Piruwanu no longer were selling them goods. For weeks a group of twenty young men prepared themselves, as the rest of the villages prepared for them, with salted meats and preserved crops placed in colored baskets and pouches.

And soon it was time for them to go.

Anything else?: SEIZE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION
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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Wed Aug 03, 2016 9:04 pm

One thing that stands out instantly is your location. You stuck the Chinese in between the Persians and the Arabs, essentially :P

Likewise, we already do have a Chinese state (Songgou, see: http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Songguo) RP'd be Senkaukywhocaresoal or whatever Sen(ka)'s full name is lmfao.

So I would definitely suggest looking at other options, tho the world would not end if we have two Chinese/Han based states. However, this would require a lot of input from Sen. Should this potentially happen, you would share a border with Songgou and potentially nab part of the coastline between Hyndana and Song.

To the others (Liec, Lunas, etc.) feel free to offer your own input on this as well.
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Vredlandia
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Founded: Sep 08, 2012
Right-wing Utopia

Postby Vredlandia » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:29 am

As a smaller nation, I have concerns in regards to the population. We have many strong nations with a high population already, and if we continue with that, all other nations are essentially going to be (even more) irrelevant.

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Caltarania
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Founded: Feb 01, 2013
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 04, 2016 3:37 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Senkaukywhocaresoal or whatever Sen(ka)'s full name is lmfao.


It's Senkaku IIRC.

What follows is a scathing and stringent review of Reatra's application. Not for the faint of heart. Viewer discretion advised.

Reatra wrote:
National information
Official Name: The Great and Grand Revolutionary Proletarian Impirrenship of Reatra Sorry but what the heck is an Impirrenship? It sounds similar to an Imperium, or Empire, so I'll assume it's a bastardisation of that, but then why is there the words "Revolutionary" and "Proletarian"? As a sidenote, Great and Grand aren't both needed, let us be honest, and are rarely if ever used in the naming conventions of Communist states... so in reality this should be closer to the 'Revolutionary Proletarian Republic of Reatra' or something to that degree.
Shortened Name: Reatra, the PIR, Communist Reatra (unofficial) Surely all of these are unofficial?
Requested Location: The orange?
RP Population: I was hoping for this to be the Communist China to our current Soviet Union. I'd think more than 150 million, but if not then 144.64 million. As Glit above mentioned, Songguo is currently our China, and I would assume that Hyndana plays a similar role in terms of a Sino-Soviet Split kinda deal. 144.64 million is a lot considering that, AFAIK, the land you chose above is mostly desert. Anywhere else in Coius, though, would be suited a high population, though perhaps less or more than what you chose.
Culture and Ethnicity: The language, called Rynatoonii, is not-so obviously an Indo-Euclean language, but certain grammatical aspects (such as the "n" sound being used for most negative responses) show its heritage. Centuries ago the vast majority of the Reatrist nation was assimilated into this Rynatoonii language and culture, which is why the nation was able to stick together very well during the May Fifth Revolution. Many aspects of ancient Rynatoonii culture are actively being phased out due to the current "proletarian" ideals of the state. <--- Give some examples. What do you mean by "assimilated" exactly? What was the May Fifth Revolution? The millennia-old hierarchy, collectivism why is a presumably-collectivist state trying to stomp out collectivism? , and obsession with efficiency are hard to destroy, though, and the CRC is willing to use this to advance the cause of the revolution. Food and dress is still celebrated for being Reatrist, and some small aspects of nationalism are tolerated by the CRC, due to the difficulty in getting rid of them.
Government Type: One party state under the careful guiding hand of Comrade Impirren RyRy The fuck is an Impirren? 'Comrade' should not be used in official titles unless it is the title. RyRy? Does he/she have a surname? Are surnames existent in this culture?
Head of State: Comrade Impirren RyRy (some might say Comrade Eren Danoline might suffice as a head of state)
Head of Government: De jure, Comrade Minister Wolff. De facto, Comrade Impirren RyRy Once again, Comrade is not an official title unless it is the only title. Even then it's a bit of a push.
National Overview: Formerly an absolute monarchy run by a perpetually efficient bureaucracy, class consciousness spread during the decades after the first industrial revolutions. For years the Impirren So 'Impirren' is a title for Emperor and Premier? What. Come on, I shouldn't need to even point out why there should be different titles here. tried to appease the workers with small concessions, shorter work weeks, better pay, etc., but the oppressive nature of capitalism still stood. The May Fifth Revolution changed that, as petitions turned to protests turned to riots turned to battles turned to guerilla armies fighting the state. Three hundred thousand Reatrists died Civil war? I doubt that many would die in a single week of revolution, but this is really nitpicking I guess. , but their deaths were not in vain! As the oppressive Impirren ... just... see above and his class-traitors of an army were replaced by the... Uh... Impirren... We don't talk much about that part. Well I have to talk about it. Give them a different title or keep the old system, that's the choice. The point is, though, that now instead of Reatrism the children are being taught Socialism. The CRC, or Communist Reatrist Council, keeps the citizens safe as we transition to a fully communist country.

The problem, though, is that the revolution a not finished until every country is socialist. In actuality this depends on if you subscribe to 'Socialism in One Country' (Stalin's POV) or 'Permanent Revolution' (One of Trotsky's POVs). Most "socialist states", including the USSR and the entirely-communist-not-at-all-capitalist PRC, were the former.

That's why we've been building quite a few million rifles to send to rebels.


Other:
Factbook: I never really got into the actual NS part of NS, so never made a factbook. Any suggestions? This isn't too much of a problem. We can help you make an iiwiki
RP Preferences: Less military and more economic and diplomatic RPs, but I can do really anything if I get into it.
RP Samples: Something I wrote about half a year ago and never finished. (I'm going to leave the review of the sample to someone else.
The Sun rose quickly, within minutes the slopes and rooftops had been illuminated by the warm light. Chaska looked at the bright rooftops from her perch higher on the hill. A small hamlet, Hatun Q'iru was her birthplace and her home most of the year. Only a hundred people lived here, half of which (the men) raised llamas and alpacas while the other half (the women) weaved wool into colorful clothing. Chaska knew that their shoes and hats came from the Piruwanu cities miles away, most down in the lowlands and full of people and grey buildings. Every so often a few men would make the trek up to the villages of her people and they would sell and trade what they had. Clothes, exotic foods, and other goods. Then the Q'iru people would give them the beautiful clothes and woolen goods they wove, in addition to some excess crops and whatnot. The men who sold things (who called themselves "caravanas") would then be on their way, back down the slopes, back to their cities and their neighbors and their masses of people. What a life to live. The oldest of the village would tell of times years ago when the men who sold things would come to Q'iru lands much more often, when the Q'iru had more of their things and less of the Q'iru things. The oldest of the village spoke of times long ago when their brothers and sons would go down to the big grey cities and learn histories that even the wisest paqos didn't know, and would marry women who were thinner and taller than the Q'iru. They usually would never return. Then, according to the oldest of the village, one year the men who sold things simply didn't come. And the next year they didn't come until the middle of winter. And then after that they would come less and less, and to this day when the men who sold things would come it was a village-wide affair. Everyone gathered in the tiny plaza, and if they were the first village that the men who sold things had visited, then runners would be dispatched to the other villages to tell them of the arrival. The chief elders of that village would greet the men who sold things, with younger learned men translating the Q'iru runasimi into kastillasimi, and then with the elders giving "gifts" (which were really the opening trade items).

Chaska was worried, though, she couldn't remember the last time the men who sold things had come! She asked the oldest of the village, and they too were worried. Perhaps the Piruwanu in the lowlands had once again decided that the Q'iru weren't worth their time.
"This may be another year with none of the Piruwanu shoes" one said.
"Perhaps we should ask the elders of the other villages what they think?" Another suggested.
"I do believe that would be the best action to take." A third elder agreed.

So five fast young men were told to run to the other villages and ask their elders to come to Hatun Q'iro and discuss. They were each given enough food and water to last them the journey (one had to only run for an hour, another for three days), plus some coca leaves if they got sick or fatigued. Some hours later the first one came back, and reported that the elders were on their way, as did the next four over the course of six days.

Chaska was far too young to be immediately notified of any agreements made by this impromptu "council", yet it wouldn’t have mattered anyway, because the group of the elders decided to simply wait, continue to herd llamas and weave wool, continue to move down the slopes to till the fields with the foot-plows and harvest the potatoes and maize.

Weeks passed and no men who sold things came to the highlands.

Then months.

Spring came and no new shoes or straw hats were worn.

As did Summer.

As did Autumn.

Winter had come again, and no lowlanders came.

It had been a long time, too long, even longer than the years the oldest of the village lived through, and so the elders of the all the villages met once again, and decided they would send the fast young men down to the lowlands to see why the Piruwanu no longer were selling them goods. For weeks a group of twenty young men prepared themselves, as the rest of the villages prepared for them, with salted meats and preserved crops placed in colored baskets and pouches.

And soon it was time for them to go.

Anything else?: SEIZE THE MEMES OF PRODUCTION
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Reatra
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Posts: 16123
Founded: Sep 02, 2011
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Reatra » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:18 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:One thing that stands out instantly is your location. You stuck the Chinese in between the Persians and the Arabs, essentially :P

Likewise, we already do have a Chinese state (Songgou, see: http://iiwiki.com/wiki/Songguo) RP'd be Senkaukywhocaresoal or whatever Sen(ka)'s full name is lmfao.

So I would definitely suggest looking at other options, tho the world would not end if we have two Chinese/Han based states. However, this would require a lot of input from Sen. Should this potentially happen, you would share a border with Songgou and potentially nab part of the coastline between Hyndana and Song.

To the others (Liec, Lunas, etc.) feel free to offer your own input on this as well.


Oh I didn't mean for the culture to be Chinese, but the fact that it's the "other" socialist power. The one without its own faction but it sort of powerful.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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The Kingdom of Glitter
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Founded: Jan 08, 2014
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:21 am

oh rip me i'm dumb.

I defer to Calt's commentary then.

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Sveltlana
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Posts: 2906
Founded: Mar 01, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Sveltlana » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:26 am

IMO, the most conspicuous problem with your app, Reatra, is being more specific (explaining your material to us). Much more specific. I know that you probably know much about your apped country and have it all fleshed out in your head, but, as amazing as we are, we Kylarites aren't mind readers and we need to know exactly how things happen in your country. That said, let me give a few examples where you could have been more specific.

Reatra wrote:The language, called Rynatoonii, is not-so obviously an Indo-Euclean language, but certain grammatical aspects (such as the "n" sound being used for most negative responses) show its heritage


What heritage? Its Indo-Euclean heritage? Or its other weird heritage of which you haven't talked about at all?

Reatra wrote:Centuries ago the vast majority of the Reatrist nation was assimilated into this Rynatoonii language and culture


What is this "Ryatoonii" language and culture? Is it some sort of a barbarian tribe? A people that lived in Reatra before the Reatrist nation arrived?

Reatra wrote:which is why the nation was able to stick together very well during the May Fifth Revolution


Language/culture have not prevented many important revolutions from breaking out. Why would it be in your case? And don't you say later that like 300,000 people are killed in like a week during the revolution? That's not my definition of sticking together. Again, please get your stuff together.

Reatra wrote:Food and dress is still celebrated for being Reatrist


Wait, so is being Reatrist and being Ryatoonii-ist the same thing? I'm totally lost here.

Reatra wrote:Comrade Impirren RyRy


wat

Reatra wrote:Formerly an absolute monarchy run by a perpetually efficient bureaucracy


"Perpetually efficient bureaucracy?"

Err, no, that's neither how absolute monarchies nor real governments work.

Reatra wrote:after the first industrial revolutions


Okay, "industrial revolutions" are a key part in the history of any nation and you should have explained this period in time much more in depth. Also, how does having several "first industrial revolutions" work in your case? Are there "second industrial revolutions?" Third? Again, the primary problem in your app: Be more specific!

Reatra wrote:The May Fifth Revolution


We need to know what this revolution is, on which year it happened; we need much more information into how it affected your country than you provided.

Reatra wrote:As the oppressive Impirren and his class-traitors of an army were replaced by the... Uh... Impirren... We don't talk much about that part


Well, for god's sake do indeed talk about that part because we're in an OOC context and we need to know what the hell is going on in your country in what appears to be one of your most important periods of history.

Reatra wrote:The point is, though, that now instead of Reatrism


What in god's green earth is 'Reatrism'? Is it some kind of religion? Some type of philosophy? Nobody knows! Again, be more specific (as I've implied like 20 times by now).

Reatra wrote:The CRC, or Communist Reatrist Council, keeps the citizens safe as we transition to a fully communist country


Wait, you aren't a "fully communist country" already? How long has it been since the May Fifth Revolution? How does being a "partially communist country" work in the case of Reatra? Does that mean that Reatra is pretty much a military police/junta state? How willing is the junta/military police to indeed teach 'communism' to the Reatrans? Is the change actually going to take place sometime in the future?

Reatra wrote:The problem, though, is that the revolution a not finished until every country is socialist.


Yeah, about that...
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Postby Elepis » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:31 am

bop
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Elepis » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:37 am

Sveltlana wrote:
Reatra wrote:The CRC, or Communist Reatrist Council, keeps the citizens safe as we transition to a fully communist country


Wait, you aren't a "fully communist country" already?


Also, you can't have a communist country. It is an oxymoron.
"Krugmar - Today at 10:00 PM
Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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Postby Reatra » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:40 am

Sveltlana wrote:IMO, the most conspicuous problem with your app, Reatra, is being more specific (explaining your material to us). Much more specific. I know that you probably know much about your apped country and have it all fleshed out in your head, but, as amazing as we are, we Kylarites aren't mind readers and we need to know exactly how things happen in your country. That said, let me give a few examples where you could have been more specific.

Reatra wrote:The language, called Rynatoonii, is not-so obviously an Indo-Euclean language, but certain grammatical aspects (such as the "n" sound being used for most negative responses) show its heritage


What heritage? Its Indo-Euclean heritage? Or its other weird heritage of which you haven't talked about at all?

Reatra wrote:Centuries ago the vast majority of the Reatrist nation was assimilated into this Rynatoonii language and culture


What is this "Ryatoonii" language and culture? Is it some sort of a barbarian tribe? A people that lived in Reatra before the Reatrist nation arrived?

Reatra wrote:which is why the nation was able to stick together very well during the May Fifth Revolution


Language/culture have not prevented many important revolutions from breaking out. Why would it be in your case? And don't you say later that like 300,000 people are killed in like a week during the revolution? That's not my definition of sticking together. Again, please get your stuff together.

Reatra wrote:Food and dress is still celebrated for being Reatrist


Wait, so is being Reatrist and being Ryatoonii-ist the same thing? I'm totally lost here.

Reatra wrote:Comrade Impirren RyRy


wat

Reatra wrote:Formerly an absolute monarchy run by a perpetually efficient bureaucracy


"Perpetually efficient bureaucracy?"

Err, no, that's neither how absolute monarchies nor real governments work.

Reatra wrote:after the first industrial revolutions


Okay, "industrial revolutions" are a key part in the history of any nation and you should have explained this period in time much more in depth. Also, how does having several "first industrial revolutions" work in your case? Are there "second industrial revolutions?" Third? Again, the primary problem in your app: Be more specific!

Reatra wrote:The May Fifth Revolution


We need to know what this revolution is, on which year it happened; we need much more information into how it affected your country than you provided.

Reatra wrote:As the oppressive Impirren and his class-traitors of an army were replaced by the... Uh... Impirren... We don't talk much about that part


Well, for god's sake do indeed talk about that part because we're in an OOC context and we need to know what the hell is going on in your country in what appears to be one of your most important periods of history.

Reatra wrote:The point is, though, that now instead of Reatrism


What in god's green earth is 'Reatrism'? Is it some kind of religion? Some type of philosophy? Nobody knows! Again, be more specific (as I've implied like 20 times by now).

Reatra wrote:The CRC, or Communist Reatrist Council, keeps the citizens safe as we transition to a fully communist country


Wait, you aren't a "fully communist country" already? How long has it been since the May Fifth Revolution? How does being a "partially communist country" work in the case of Reatra? Does that mean that Reatra is pretty much a military police/junta state? How willing is the junta/military police to indeed teach 'communism' to the Reatrans? Is the change actually going to take place sometime in the future?

Reatra wrote:The problem, though, is that the revolution a not finished until every country is socialist.


Yeah, about that...


Understandable. I'll try to fix it soon. I'm out of the country and have little wifi, so it might be a bit.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Reatra » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:40 am

Elepis wrote:
Sveltlana wrote:

Wait, you aren't a "fully communist country" already?


Also, you can't have a communist country. It is an oxymoron.


You can have a communist country, just not a communist state.
yee haw it's time for mass line

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Postby Elepis » Thu Aug 04, 2016 7:45 am

Reatra wrote:
Elepis wrote:
Also, you can't have a communist country. It is an oxymoron.


You can have a communist country, just not a communist state.


no...you can't? A country is a form of state. You could have a communist confederacy I guess, but not a country and not one ruled by a dictator
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Not sure that'll work on Elepis considering he dislikes (from what I've observed):
A: Nationalism
B: Religion being taken seriously
C: The Irish"

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The APP:

National information
Official Name: Kaiserreich of Ublia
Shortened Name: Ublia
Requested Location: Virap
RP Population: 35, 553,100
Culture and Ethnicity:

Though all citizens of Ublia are known as Ublian the term is more generally used for the large Weranic minority that dominates the countries northern border region with Vredlandia. The descendants of the settlers brought by the Weranic Holy Orders to conquer the pagan Marolev tribe known as the Virapians, the Ublians have remained defiantly similar to their northern neighbors in the face of the Marolev peoples. Peoples who have largely been targeted for assimilation throughout the centuries by the various rulers of the Ublian state as it expanded westward toward the Marolev homelands. As a result there are large numbers of Weranicised Virapians in the countries north, while southern regions of the country are more controlled by the local population. Still these tensions are nothing when compared to both groups disdain of their communist neighbors who sought to conquer and oppress them following the Great War with the Marolevs being briefly conquered. During that time the largely conservative Virapians became increasingly hostile to the atheistic and socialist conquerors to the point after the Ublian Reconquest of the 1990’s they welcomed the Weranics with open arms. Since then an uneasy truce has held between the two with both languages being declared equal (though many favor the more cultured Weranic tongue). At the same time though non-Virapian Marolevs in the country face increased discrimination by both ethnic groups after the Reconquest, being labeled as foreign invaders and targeted for Weranicisation by the Imperial government.

Religiously a fairly tolerant nation. The bulk of the population are Protestant Christians, though Catholic and Orthodox minorities exist in the far south.

Government Type:
Absolute Enlightened Monarchy
Head of State:
HIM Marius II von Streicher, aged 50, Emperor of Ublia, Prince of Virap, Grand Master of the Weranic Knights, Overlord of the Barbarians and Protector of the Faithful
Head of Government:
His Excellency Hugo Winter-Zelinsky, aged 77, Imperial Chancellor and War Minister of Ublia
National Overview: (A brief summary of your nation's general political ideology and society.)

A nation tested by the aftermath of the Great War, the breakup of the Verdo-Samodeian Empire and the subsequent Communist Invasion, Ublia has adopted a radical political agenda pushed by the radical Weranic Revival Front. Driven by a desire to restore the fortunes of the Weranic peoples, the Parties Statist policies included the drive toward total Weranicisation in the north, the establishment of autocratic and military rule while at the same time despising both the capitalist and communist systems. Instead the party declared itself ‘Neither left nor right’ instead embracing a fusion of right-wing nationalism and a leftist state dominated economy resulting in the current hybrid state to emerge. Interestingly though the WRF (Weranic Revival Front) argued for eth restoration of royal power, the party largely dominated n less than 2 Grand Princes of Ublia until the reign of the ultra-nationalistic and militaristic Marius II von Streicher ascended the throne. Using party ideology against them and launching a Princely coup he seized personal power, creating a cult of the personality and using the subsequent reconquest of the south to proclaim himself Emperor of Ublia.

Under Emperor Marius II the Weranicist policies of the government have increased, targeting the largely despised non-Virapian Marolevs of the south by the government for assimilation. Though regarding the Viparians the government remains ambivalent, recognizing the need to tone down their Weranicist views regarding the ethnic group that supported their Reconquest. As a result certain rights regarding language and culture were guaranteed though unofficially the Ministry of Enlightenment and Cultural Unity presses the old agenda behind closed doors, as they begin creating Weranic settlements in the south and encouraging the embrace of the more cosmopolitan Weranic language by the Virapians.
Politically the Kaiserreich has fully embraced the statist absolute monarchy of the WRF, with the Emperor as autocratic leader of the nation while the parliament as little more than a rubber stamp for Imperial ambitions. Indeed many instead prefer to vie for a position on the Imperial Senate headed by the Emperor and even the even more prestigious Imperial High Council. The High Council made up of Chancellor, his/her cabinet, various Imperial favorites and members of the Imperial family, each encouraged to attempt to surpass the other. Leading to such notorious rivalries as that between OSec and InSec (the Inner and Outer Secretariats) or the country’s foreign intelligence agency and secret police with both notorious for attempting to push their agenda’s via upstaging the other. Nonetheless the Emperor seems hardly moved regarding this, preferring to advance the notion of political Darwinism amid his government.

Interestingly despite the presence of a secret police, opposition parties do exist though it has often been wondered if they are not merely government puppets to root out traitors. Whatever the case the government officially rarely intrudes on matters of private life, though again this is dubious. Still civil liberties remain for the most part and with the government preferring to advance a kind of enlightened despotism many have found the reign of Kaiser Marius preferable to the less restrained WRF dictatorship of the past century.

Indeed many have noted societal improvements since Marius’s personal rule began. Beginning with his decision to curtail the privileges of the outdated Ublian aristocracy (Weranic and Virapians alike). These include numerous laws in place since medieval Ublia including the end of preference for government positions based on blood, higher taxation on the nobility and the opening of once aristocratic institutions (all so long as they embrace Marius’s ideology). This oddly egalitarian act is not alone though, despite the government’s disdain of Communism and the breakup of the labor unions, the government has claimed no Ublian will be without work, abolishing the welfare system to ensure this while instituting massive government projects, the providement of housing, vacation and so on. Still one must recall at the same time children are enrolled in the Marian Youth Guard (those seeking military advancement), the Wonder Brigades (future technocrats, scientists, academics and other professionals) or the more mysterious Young Weranic Knights (officially the most skilled of both though many allege it to be a training ground for InSec and OSec) as a means of indoctrination. While workers of all professions themselves are indoctrinated through Toil Rallies and mandatory attendance of the United Workers Association under the supervision of the Ministry of Enlightenment and Cultural Unity.

In short the country renowned for its love of High Weranic culture, heavily regulated economy and seemingly free if suspicious populace is at the same time an ultra-nationalistic autocracy, with a fully operational secret police and pervasive cult of the personality.
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Factbook: (In progress)
RP Preferences: Various RP’s, Usually character/faction driven alternate history, science-fiction, historical or fantasy works.
RP Samples:
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p29472744
https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopi ... #p19754938
Anything else?: Nope
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:02 am

Ublia wrote:The APP:

National information
Official Name: Kaiserreich of Ublia
Shortened Name: Ublia
Requested Location: Virap
RP Population: 70, 553,100


Everything seems to be in order, my only concern is the population. How did you come about it?

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Postby Lunas Legion » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:03 am

Only real gripe from me is the constant misspelling of Marolev as Maroslav. Otherwise, it's going to be funny having two nations with similar political stances in practice yet claim to be completely distinct from each other.
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Postby Ublia » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:13 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:
Ublia wrote:The APP:

National information
Official Name: Kaiserreich of Ublia
Shortened Name: Ublia
Requested Location: Virap
RP Population: 70, 553,100


Everything seems to be in order, my only concern is the population. How did you come about it?


Uh yes I was concerned about it as well. I tried the old how many Czech Rep.'s fit in this one area and so I decided to be generous to start after viewing the other nations wiki to get a sense of standards. Naturally it can be lowered though.

Also will fix the Marolev issue.
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:18 am

Ah, well I'd say anywhere between 20-35 million would be reasonable.

Population density can be worked out later, we can always fit the pop density to you after all.

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Postby Ublia » Sun Aug 07, 2016 11:22 am

The Kingdom of Glitter wrote:Ah, well I'd say anywhere between 20-35 million would be reasonable.

Population density can be worked out later, we can always fit the pop density to you after all.


Uh very good. That was actually what I originally was planning, but I saw the wiki and viewed the area and was like, huh maybe I should up it just so I don't lowball myself.
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"'Whither is God?' He cried; "I will tell you. We have killed him- you and I.'"- F. Neitzsche, The Gay Science
Economic Left/Right: -6.38
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.51
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Machiavellianism, Socialism, Leftism in General, Two State Solution, New Democratic Party of Canada, Neitzschean Theory, LGBTQ rights,Feminism and Deism
Neutral: Eggplants and Switzerland
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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:16 am

You're all set Ublia, welcome to Kylaris!

I'll sent the password your way.

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Postby Fascist Republic Of Bermuda » Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:59 pm

Hello friends I was summoned by Glitter.

I still might try to get in

I think I still have a draft of Not!Nicaragua lying around somewhere.

EDIT: I don't, but that will not stop me.
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N U T S !

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Postby The Kingdom of Glitter » Tue Aug 09, 2016 9:42 pm

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Hello friends I was summoned by Glitter.

I still might try to get in

I think I still have a draft of Not!Nicaragua lying around somewhere.


Oh that would be lovely, we could do with more Romance Asterian nations.

If you have that draft around that could easily be tossed into the app as well.

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Postby Western Pacific Territories » Wed Aug 10, 2016 4:53 pm

Fascist Republic Of Bermuda wrote:Hello friends I was summoned by Glitter.

I still might try to get in

I think I still have a draft of Not!Nicaragua lying around somewhere.

EDIT: I don't, but that will not stop me.

*panics*
*screams internally*
W-w-w want some oil?

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Postby Lunas Legion » Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:49 am

I heard :notNicaragua:. Communist y/n?
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