[NSG Senate] Lobby-ing a Scimitar

[Tuthina]

Hello everyone. I might be back.

[The New Sea Territory]

Hello everyone. I might be back.

Welcome back!

[Normandy and Picardy]

We could have a small Cabinet with a number of positions (Home, Education (Education is too important to give up, for me), Foreign, Treasury, Health, a few others if possible), with a larger cabinet with less power, made up of the undersecretaries, which advises the main cabinet on issues but overall has little influence on policy. It provides the illusion of importance without being important, and also allows for variable amounts of underscretaries. Also, you could have a shadow cabinet. I don't know if this is overcomplicating things, however.

[The Sarian]

If we are going to have 'mega departments', I'd go along the lines of:

Minister for Economic Affairs
- Finance
- Economics
- Commerce
- Labour
- Rural Affairs
- Urban Development

Minister for the Home Department
- the Interior
- Justice
- Environment
- Energy

Minister for Foreign Affairs
- Foreign Affairs
- Defence
- Trade
- International Development

Minister for Public Services
- Health
- Education
- Transport
- Science

Minister for Social Affairs and Citizenship (#TheThickOfIt)
- Communities and Local Government
- Culture
- Employment
- Welfare & Pensions
- Social Policy
- Human Rights
- Sport

[Arkolon]

@Sarian: and your opinion on the Secretaries/Ministers distinction?

[The Sarian]

@Sarian: and your opinion on the Secretaries/Ministers distinction?

I don't think it's a bad idea, and I certainly wouldn't actively oppose it, but I feel it could be done without tbh.

[Britanno 2]

When we talk about restricting (or encouraging the restriction of) cabinet sizes, are we talking from an IC legislative perspective or from an OOC one?

[The Sarian]

When we talk about restricting (or encouraging the restriction of) cabinet sizes, are we talking from an IC legislative perspective or from an OOC one?

Both, at least as far as I am concerned.

Even the UK, famous for it's dislike of codification, has a limit on the size of the Cabinet, so it's hardly a tyrannous or unrealistic thing to implement ICly, whilst there seems to be broad OOC consensus for smaller cabinet sizes.

[The Licentian Isles]

How do I go about getting back into this then ?? Used to be involved a couple of years ago, and I've got a bit more time on my hands this summer, so might as well have a go at this again.

[Zurkerx]

How do I go about getting back into this then ?? Used to be involved a couple of years ago, and I've got a bit more time on my hands this summer, so might as well have a go at this again.

Go here and sign up.

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic ... 5&t=381848

[Stormaen]

When we talk about restricting (or encouraging the restriction of) cabinet sizes, are we talking from an IC legislative perspective or from an OOC one?

Both, at least as far as I am concerned.

Even the UK, famous for it's dislike of codification, has a limit on the size of the Cabinet, so it's hardly a tyrannous or unrealistic thing to implement ICly, whilst there seems to be broad OOC consensus for smaller cabinet sizes.

As far as I'm aware, all European countries have limits on cabinet sizes.

Personally – speaking of the U.K. and taking a leaf from its book – I would say let's set the cabinet at 6 max and allow the prime minister to name secretaries and their portfolios. I don't see any need to codify the specifics secretariats or ministries if/when we codify limits.

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

Any thoughts on the Constitutional Convention proposal? And Admins, any way we could vote on it pre-Chamber (since having a Chamber would assume there was some existing government and in effect a constitution)?

[President Pro-Tempore of the Senate]

Just wondering if you guys feel like we need this old account in the future? I still have access to it since Aurentina I think. If so, just message me. ~Lamaredia

[Britanno 2]

Any thoughts on the Constitutional Convention proposal? And Admins, any way we could vote on it pre-Chamber (since having a Chamber would assume there was some existing government and in effect a constitution)?

I know it makes little sense (as you just pointed out), but I feel like we should get the ball rolling on the RP asap and so I think we should debate it in the senate.

[Lamaredia]

Just wondering if you guys feel like we need this old account in the future? I still have access to it since Aurentina I think. If so, just message me. ~Lamaredia

Or just write here tbh. *shrug*

[Skappola]

14 parties so far, it's like the old Knesset.

[Arachaea]

14 parties so far, it's like the old Knesset.

Maybe I shouldn't have applied for my own party... whoops. Ah well, a young democracy would have many parties in reality.

[Zurkerx]

Any thoughts on the Constitutional Convention proposal? And Admins, any way we could vote on it pre-Chamber (since having a Chamber would assume there was some existing government and in effect a constitution)?

I know it makes little sense (as you just pointed out), but I feel like we should get the ball rolling on the RP asap and so I think we should debate it in the senate.

I have to agree with this.

Just wondering if you guys feel like we need this old account in the future? I still have access to it since Aurentina I think. If so, just message me. ~Lamaredia

Or just write here tbh. *shrug*

We'll keep it in mind.

[Skyviolia]

Good to see it back, cant wait to get started!

[The Nihilistic view]

So how close are we to starting the politics?

[Not a Bang but a Whimper]

In lieu of an actual chamber.

[New Bierstaat]

Not joining, but was just reading a few old Aurentina posts for old time's sake and thought I might as well re-activate and say hello. Lots of good memories.

[Beta Test]

Not joining, but was just reading a few old Aurentina posts for old time's sake and thought I might as well re-activate and say hello. Lots of good memories.

Hello Mr. President

[Beta Test]

Not joining, but was just reading a few old Aurentina posts for old time's sake and thought I might as well re-activate and say hello. Lots of good memories.

Hello Mr. President

[Filimons]

Now that the Coffee Shop has been opened, are we permitted to submit our proposals for portions of the basic law as declared in the Constitutional Convention Act, or do we have to wait for a senior member (an administrator, I presume) to open the convention?