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Postby The East Marches » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:55 pm

Aelex wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Is the culture across France entirely the same? No it isn't. Same for Italy, Spain, Great Britain, etc. America does have an overarching identity however.

France is actually a bad exemple. One century of Hussard Noirs erased the regional differences way more efficiently than any ethnic cleansing could have ever done.
The last thing remaining is accent, and even so, apart from the Marseillais that is still obvious, they almost all disappeared.


I liked the Occitans. They were a bit weird but interesting people. People there are still buttmad over the teachers. It was a real shame.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:57 pm

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Aelex wrote:France is actually a bad exemple. One century of Hussard Noirs erased the regional differences way more efficiently than any ethnic cleansing could have ever done.
The last thing remaining is accent, and even so, apart from the Marseillais that is still obvious, they almost all disappeared.


And yet there are still regional differences.


Not really man. The only real differences I found were in Alsace. The French are very good at... "unifying".
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jun 17, 2016 1:57 pm

Neutraligon wrote:And yet there are still regional differences.

No, you don't understand, France won! France always wins! That's why the Académie française has been so successful in stopping Anglicisms from entering the French language!
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:No, you don't understand, France won! France always wins! That's why the Académie française has been so successful in stopping Anglicisms from entering the French language!

Hé, we gave you 45% of your vocabulary; we can at least take some of it back! :p
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Postby Conserative Morality » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:01 pm

Aelex wrote:Hé, we gave you 45% of your vocabulary; we can at least take some of it back! :p

Gave? We totally stole most of it. ;)
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:And yet there are still regional differences.

No, you don't understand, France won! France always wins! That's why the Académie française has been so successful in stopping Anglicisms from entering the French language!


Our dreaded "e-mail" was stopped by those monsters. We were so close to corrupting them.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:05 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
And yet there are still regional differences.


Not really man. The only real differences I found were in Alsace. The French are very good at... "unifying".


So there is no difference between say Paris, and other cities around France, that is not what I have seen.
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:12 pm

Neutraligon wrote:So there is no difference between say Paris, and other cities around France, that is not what I have seen.

No, actually. If you compare Paris to the second biggest city that's to say Lyon, you will find little difference apart from some words that remained from the Patois in French (if you ever watched the very good tv series Kaamelot, you may actually know a good lot of them) and a small accent (we prononce cahier as cahiè rather than cahié).
Same go with the other smaller ones.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:13 pm

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The East Marches wrote:
Not really man. The only real differences I found were in Alsace. The French are very good at... "unifying".


So there is no difference between say Paris, and other cities around France, that is not what I have seen.


You are aware that France used to be populated by little regional languages?
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:17 pm

The East Marches wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
So there is no difference between say Paris, and other cities around France, that is not what I have seen.


You are aware that France used to be populated by little regional languages?


Yes.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:18 pm

Aelex wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:So there is no difference between say Paris, and other cities around France, that is not what I have seen.

No, actually. If you compare Paris to the second biggest city that's to say Lyon, you will find little difference apart from some words that remained from the Patois in French (if you ever watched the very good tv series Kaamelot, you may actually know a good lot of them) and a small accent (we prononce cahier as cahiè rather than cahié).
Same go with the other smaller ones.


Funny, most people say differently. That Paris is very different from other areas of France.
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Postby The East Marches » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:20 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Aelex wrote:No, actually. If you compare Paris to the second biggest city that's to say Lyon, you will find little difference apart from some words that remained from the Patois in French (if you ever watched the very good tv series Kaamelot, you may actually know a good lot of them) and a small accent (we prononce cahier as cahiè rather than cahié).
Same go with the other smaller ones.


Funny, most people say differently. That Paris is very different from other areas of France.


Inb4 [Insert joke about Algerians here]
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:29 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Funny, most people say differently. That Paris is very different from other areas of France.

Well it is in someway. People are way more prickish and haughty, there. The common stereotype people abroad have about French is mostly based on Parisians' behavior alone, and most of us "provinciaux" can't stand them either.
Apart from this difference in attitude, there isn't any cultural one; however.
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:36 pm

Aelex wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Funny, most people say differently. That Paris is very different from other areas of France.

Well it is in someway. People are way more prickish and haughty, there. The common stereotype people abroad have about French is mostly based on Parisians' behavior alone, and most of us "provinciaux" can't stand them either.
Apart from this difference in attitude, there isn't any cultural one; however.


As I said people have said that there are major cultural differences between Paris and other places. Attitude is just a part of it.
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Postby Aelex » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:41 pm

Neutraligon wrote:As I said people have said that there are major cultural differences between Paris and other places. Attitude is just a part of it.

Could you maybe be a little more precise on what are those differences exactly and elaborate some more?
Because don't take it bad but if you are trying to deny what a frenchman is telling about his own culture, you may need to have something a little less vague than "some people told me so".
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Postby Neutraligon » Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:47 pm

Aelex wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:As I said people have said that there are major cultural differences between Paris and other places. Attitude is just a part of it.

Could you maybe be a little more precise on what are those differences exactly and elaborate some more?
Because don't take it bad but if you are trying to deny what a frenchman is telling about his own culture, you may need to have something a little less vague than "some people told me so".


For one thing Paris tends to have a lot of foreigners, which I would think affect the culture. There is of course the fact that as a city Paris would be different from say a rural part of France.
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Postby Yorkers » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:17 pm

Leftists pushed too hard and made a bunch of people radically opposed to them. Reap what you sow.
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Postby Quokkastan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:21 pm

Yorkers wrote:Leftists pushed too hard and made a bunch of people radically opposed to them. Reap what you sow.

And now that bunch of people is making sure that absolutely every sensible person in the world hates them.

So a win for leftists, I guess.
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Postby Yorkers » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:25 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Yorkers wrote:Leftists pushed too hard and made a bunch of people radically opposed to them. Reap what you sow.

And now that bunch of people is making sure that absolutely every sensible person in the world hates them.

So a win for leftists, I guess.


The leftists are the ones making everybody hate them.
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Postby Waldriech » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:28 pm

Racism? Please it's 2016. Homophobia? No, people like me just agree that the homo and heshe fools are immoral psychos who are hijacking our culture.
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Postby Quokkastan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:30 pm

Yorkers wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:And now that bunch of people is making sure that absolutely every sensible person in the world hates them.

So a win for leftists, I guess.


The leftists are the ones making everybody hate them.

Waldriech wrote:Racism? Please is 2016. Homophobia? No, people like me just agree that the homo fools are immoral psychos.


I win.
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Postby Yorkers » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:34 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
The leftists are the ones making everybody hate them.

Waldriech wrote:Racism? Please is 2016. Homophobia? No, people like me just agree that the homo fools are immoral psychos.


I win.


Clearly. :eyebrow:

The current political trends indicate otherwise. It's best not to ignore the future. The culture is going to change. Trump is going to win and the far-right will sweep Europe, and the SJW-tier leftists will probably have to live in fear. Perhaps we'll give them some retribution. Maybe publicly harass them? Maybe make them unemployable by destroying their reputations? Get them fired from their jobs? Call them privileged even though we are deliberately attacking them?

Oh, it's going to be fun. :twisted:
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:36 pm

Yorkers wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:

I win.


Clearly. :eyebrow:

The current political trends indicate otherwise. It's best not to ignore the future. The culture is going to change. Trump is going to win and the far-right will sweep Europe, and the SJW-tier leftists will probably have to live in fear. Perhaps we'll give them some retribution. Maybe publicly harass them? Maybe make them unemployable by destroying their reputations? Get them fired from their jobs? Call them privileged even though we are deliberately attacking them?

Oh, it's going to be fun. :twisted:

Just cut out the middle man and give them the deathblow. Ignore them.
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Postby Quokkastan » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:37 pm

Yorkers wrote:
Quokkastan wrote:

I win.


Clearly. :eyebrow:

The current political trends indicate otherwise. It's best not to ignore the future. The culture is going to change. Trump is going to win and the far-right will sweep Europe, and the SJW-tier leftists will probably have to live in fear. Perhaps we'll give them some retribution. Maybe publicly harass them? Maybe make them unemployable by destroying their reputations? Get them fired from their jobs? Call them privileged even though we are deliberately attacking them?

Oh, it's going to be fun. :twisted:

Well I don't want to diminish from the sexual glee you derive from your authoritarian fantasies, so I'm going to neglect to comment on that.
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Postby Yorkers » Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:43 pm

Quokkastan wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Clearly. :eyebrow:

The current political trends indicate otherwise. It's best not to ignore the future. The culture is going to change. Trump is going to win and the far-right will sweep Europe, and the SJW-tier leftists will probably have to live in fear. Perhaps we'll give them some retribution. Maybe publicly harass them? Maybe make them unemployable by destroying their reputations? Get them fired from their jobs? Call them privileged even though we are deliberately attacking them?

Oh, it's going to be fun. :twisted:

Well I don't want to diminish from the sexual glee you derive from your authoritarian fantasies, so I'm going to neglect to comment on that.


What? Can SJWs not handle a taste of their own medicine?
"Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people, a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs."
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Dancing in the moonlight.
I wish that every kiss was never-ending.


An alternate history epic.

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