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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:55 am

King Nephmir II wrote:Wait wait wait... so separating restrooms as male/female is considered by many to be discrimination, but separating sports in the same way isn't...?

Exactly who said that?
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Postby Killdash » Thu Jun 09, 2016 6:58 am

Ualla and St Maurice wrote:Success in high school sports can lead to college scholarships.

This reminds me of a case in Africa where a woman had to be tested to prove she wasn't a man.

Potentially, this is the beginning of the end of sex based segregation.

Also, sports parents are crazy, do you think they would force their kids to transition in order to win? (this question isn't intended to be an argument banning transgender people, because it would be weak)


Caster Semenya, the South African woman's sprinter.

She turned out to have LHC syndrome. Biologically female, but with a massive excess of testosterone.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:02 am

Killdash wrote:
Ualla and St Maurice wrote:Success in high school sports can lead to college scholarships.

This reminds me of a case in Africa where a woman had to be tested to prove she wasn't a man.

Potentially, this is the beginning of the end of sex based segregation.

Also, sports parents are crazy, do you think they would force their kids to transition in order to win? (this question isn't intended to be an argument banning transgender people, because it would be weak)


Caster Semenya, the South African woman's sprinter.

She turned out to have LHC syndrome. Biologically female, but with a massive excess of testosterone.

I choose to believe she had Large Hadron Collider syndrome.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:53 am

Ifreann wrote:
Zeinbrad wrote:True females and males (tm)

I have a plan. We get a DNA sample from every cis man and woman on Earth. We put them in two big blenders, and we create the Truest Man and Woman. Then we'll have them compete against each other in every sport, with additional clones for team sports. We'll finally make sports fair and solve the battle of the sexes, thus ushering in world peace.


Assuming they don't decide to reproduce together to create a True Human Master Race to dominate us inferiors.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jun 09, 2016 7:57 am

King Nephmir II wrote:Wait wait wait... so separating restrooms as male/female is considered by many to be discrimination, but separating sports in the same way isn't...?

I will never understand this new form of logic.

What kind of world do you live in where using the toilet is competitive?

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Postby MERIZoC » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:03 am

Freefall11111 wrote:
King Nephmir II wrote:Wait wait wait... so separating restrooms as male/female is considered by many to be discrimination, but separating sports in the same way isn't...?

I will never understand this new form of logic.

What kind of world do you live in where using the toilet is competitive?

Hey. Hey.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jun 09, 2016 8:45 am

Gauthier wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I have a plan. We get a DNA sample from every cis man and woman on Earth. We put them in two big blenders, and we create the Truest Man and Woman. Then we'll have them compete against each other in every sport, with additional clones for team sports. We'll finally make sports fair and solve the battle of the sexes, thus ushering in world peace.


Assuming they don't decide to reproduce together to create a True Human Master Race to dominate us inferiors.

We'll have to make sure they're both gay, just to be safe.
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Postby Nirvash Type TheEND » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:02 am

This creates a humorous quagmire.

If you say she should run with the men because she was born male, then it's transphobic.

If you say she has a competitive advantage against other women because she was born male, it's sexist.
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Postby Prosocial » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:03 am

This very game once offered me the option to reform the system to be in divisions based on ability. I can understand top women being frustrated by competing evenly against mediocre men, but it does seem like the most fair and logical way to do it.

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Postby Killdash » Thu Jun 09, 2016 9:47 am

Ifreann wrote:
Killdash wrote:
Caster Semenya, the South African woman's sprinter.

She turned out to have LHC syndrome. Biologically female, but with a massive excess of testosterone.

I choose to believe she had Large Hadron Collider syndrome.



I actually messed up there. The syndrome is CAH.

Too much Evangelion, :).
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Postby Community Values » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:20 am

Killdash wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I choose to believe she had Large Hadron Collider syndrome.



I actually messed up there. The syndrome is CAH.

Too much Evangelion, :).


CAH? I loved Cards Against Humanity.
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Postby Killdash » Thu Jun 09, 2016 4:46 pm

Community Values wrote:
Killdash wrote:

I actually messed up there. The syndrome is CAH.

Too much Evangelion, :).


CAH? I loved Cards Against Humanity.



That should be the name of a syndrome though. Throw out Tourettes, change it to Cards Against Humanity disease.
How do you take your tea?: Seriously, very seriously.
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Are you always so modest?: Yes, though it takes a man of some character to pull it off.
Hey, your insensitive remark/insult/racial slur has me in a tizzy: Well, if you wish to cyber insult me, then do your worst.
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