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The Order of the Grey Wardens

Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue May 31, 2016 11:12 pm

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The Order of the Grey Wardens

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First Warden: Benevolent Thomas
High-Constable:Tim-opolis
Chamberlain of the Grey: Olevsky
Warden Commanders:Deadeye Jack, Altmoras




About the Grey Wardens

The Grey Wardens are an order of warriors of exceptional ability, dedicated to fighting darkspawn (invaders) throughout NationStates. The Grey Wardens are known for ignoring a recruit's racial, social, national, and even criminal background if they deem the person valuable in terms of character or ability. Of course in the sense of NS this means that we shall accept just about anyone without prejudice. Former invaders are also welcome as long as they stay true to the Wardens and our cause. It is the goal of this order to efficiently defeat as many invaders as possible as frequently as needed. We are not the white knights who clamor for the approval of our peers. We embrace the darkness and shall follow our enemy wherever they attempt to spread the blight.
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Postby Dark Robes » Tue May 31, 2016 11:32 pm

Very interesting to see the Grey Wardens return.
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Postby Cormactopia II » Tue May 31, 2016 11:47 pm

Interesting and exciting development! I hope this works out this time.
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Postby Zacherie » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:07 am

All aboard the hype train, the best NS military org is back!
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:21 am

Yes, We're Back


The rumors were true, the Grey Wardens have returned. All of the major players in the last incarnation knew this would come eventually and I honestly can't believe I went over a year before trying this again.

Why are you back?
The blight is alive and well. The revelations brought on by the Predator scandal showed many of us just how underhanded some of the players of NationStates can be. Hundreds, if not thousands, of regions were invaded at the hands of a tool that has now been proven to be in violation of the site's rules. Not only this, but it was also designed to mask its rules violations. This rule breaking was allowed to continue for well over a year due to the this community's culture of silence and true disdain for their fellow NationStates Players.

After the revelations and the subsequent punishing, we found that the next generation of invaders too have a knack of breaking the site's rules. The invasion of the class region by means of password cracking followed by the flooding of puppets was enough to make gameplayers from all corners cringe. It only gets worse now that we see that one such beastly region was comfortable with exposing their members to reprehensible members of the NationStates community.

Anything new?

Yes. I think this may come as a surprise to some, but I am no longer labeling the Grey Wardens as a defender organization. Many are uncomfortable with a defender organization that invades regions, therefore we won't be one. Yes, that means I intend to invade invader regions. Its one of the founding principles of the Order and if I can no longer call myself a defender because of this, then so be it. This move will just save everyone a lot of trouble.

Finally, before we look to the future, let's reflect on our favorite moments from the past:

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:Oh my god. Thomas, and Cormac have teamed up? Who's next Uni, and AD?

Just wait and see who joins up this time! Oh wait...
Drop Your Pants wrote:While I won't be joining you, I won't be libbing it either. And to those purist defenders who might start yelling about them raiding, at least they remember how to move their WA's :P

Jean Pierre Trudeau wrote:So this is what it has come to? The so called moralistic defenders, are now raiders? And here I read that Cormac was never going to invade another region again. Do you even have any credibility left Cormac? And you Thomas?

Pitiful.

Malevolent Thomas wrote:Where did you get the impression that this org was full of white knights? I take the Grey to heart. And once again, we didn't start this org to impress anyone or seek anyone's approval. We're here to stop invader darkspawn, its what we do. If you do not agree with our methods, that's fine. You go do you boo boo and we're going to do us.

Ikania wrote:Sounds fun. I'd be tempted to join if it weren't for Cormac's signature morality-based holier than thou attitude towards defending.

Affectionate Kitty wrote:That day when defenders are no better than glorified raiders. :(

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Albioney wrote:When I first started raiding, defenders took pride in being the good-guys. Now we've got anti-heros, I guess.

There's 2 types of defenders these days. Armchair defenders who hand out their opinions about everything and mobile defenders who move at updates....every update.

Ikania wrote:It's not even defenderism, it's hypocrisy.

Ambroscus Koth wrote:The Wardens don't need to justify shit, nobody does. It's fun, there's your justification :P

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Ikania wrote:I'm still waiting for an apology about Madrigal.


You'll be waiting at least the time it took from Andoral to Urthemiel, if that. Not happening.

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Ridersyl wrote:Damn, y'all might actually force me back into the game.

As a Warden? :p
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Postby Flanderlion » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:25 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote: Of course in the sense of NS this means that we shall accept just about anyone without prejudice.

I'm guessing that'll exclude Nazis, Forum Destroyers, People like Nuke, People like Feuer, DOS players, and the like? Otherwise I expect the thread to quickly turn dark from the known GP denizens who hide in the walls waiting to pounce.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Jun 01, 2016 12:28 am

Flanderlion wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote: Of course in the sense of NS this means that we shall accept just about anyone without prejudice.

I'm guessing that'll exclude Nazis, Forum Destroyers, People like Nuke, People like Feuer, DOS players, and the like? Otherwise I expect the thread to quickly turn dark from the known GP denizens who hide in the walls waiting to pounce.

I use all of my words with purpose. "Just about anyone" follows "if they deem the person valuable in terms of character or ability".
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Postby Kyorgia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:21 am

Interesting hopefully this leads to some actual fights on the tag fields its getting lonely out there.
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Postby Plagentine » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:21 am

Nice to see this return. Hopefully you guys grow to be quite the challenge.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:41 am

Kyorgia wrote:Interesting hopefully this leads to some actual fights on the tag fields its getting lonely out there.

Not even close to getting off the first page without someone mentioning taglands. I thought hoped tagging was dead.
Ballotonia wrote:Personally, I think there's something seriously wrong with a game if it willfully allows the destruction of longtime player communities in favor of kids whose sole purpose is to enjoy ruining the game for others.

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Postby Kyorgia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 1:47 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
Kyorgia wrote:Interesting hopefully this leads to some actual fights on the tag fields its getting lonely out there.

Not even close to getting off the first page without someone mentioning taglands. I thought hoped tagging was dead.

As long as I have my WA and another friend to help me tagging will not be dead.
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Postby Numero Capitan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:58 am

Kyorgia wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Not even close to getting off the first page without someone mentioning taglands. I thought hoped tagging was dead.

As long as I have my WA and another friend to help me tagging will not be dead.


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Postby Lord Ravenclaw » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:36 am

The Grey Wardens were the only GP Military Organisation that I formally joined. Conversely, I also know a huge amount of Lore for DA and do plan to incorporate DALore, including Mages, the Circles, Wardens and Darkspawn into Alexandria as a result of TGW's existing.
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Postby Kyorgia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:17 am

Numero Capitan wrote:
Kyorgia wrote:As long as I have my WA and another friend to help me tagging will not be dead.


What a legacy

Thank you that means a lot to me coming from such a old armchair defender.
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Postby Cormactopia II » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:25 am

Kyorgia wrote:
Numero Capitan wrote:
What a legacy

Thank you that means a lot to me coming from such a old armchair defender.

I'm not sure he can be considered to be in an armchair when in all likelihood he has infiltrated one or more raider regions that aren't even suspicious of him. His intel aptitude is pretty legendary.
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Postby Revall » Wed Jun 01, 2016 5:57 am

Good to see The Grey Wardens back not only because I'm a huge DA fan but because I thought it was a step in the right direction the first time around.
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Postby Louisistan » Wed Jun 01, 2016 7:29 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Many are uncomfortable with a defender organization that invades regions, therefore we won't e one. Yes, that means I intend to invade invader regions. Its one of the founding principles of the Order and if I can no longer call myself a defender because of this, then so be it.
lol :rofl:

We've been doing that (occasionally) for years. People are so sensitive nowadays :D

Anyway, good luck with that, but don't forget your magic studies :P
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Postby Queen Yuno » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:30 am

Yay!

High hopes for ya :3

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:32 am

So y'all gonna clean up christmas or do I have to keep being disappointing?

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Postby With Malice in My Heart » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:33 am

Carry on and try to conquer the Blight. Have fun.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Jun 01, 2016 8:35 am

Kyorgia wrote:Thank you that means a lot to me coming from such a old armchair defender.

Numero Capitan has been one of the more active defenders in NS during 2016 so far. Respect your elders.
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Postby Ayvari » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:20 am

This time, I'm on the other side of the fence, so I can say...

PRESSURE'S ON YOU, BT, RAID DEFEND THOSE REGIONS.

:hug:

Good luck.
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Postby Korallia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:23 am

Louisistan wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Many are uncomfortable with a defender organization that invades regions, therefore we won't e one. Yes, that means I intend to invade invader regions. Its one of the founding principles of the Order and if I can no longer call myself a defender because of this, then so be it.
lol :rofl:

We've been doing that (occasionally) for years. People are so sensitive nowadays :D

Anyway, good luck with that, but don't forget your magic studies :P

Right? Since when is it such a crazy idea for defenders to want to attack raiders? How the hell did raiders ever opt-out of being raided?

Defenders have cried for years that our work is reactive in nature, but as a whole we have turned away when an opportunity to take charge has presented itself. Too many of us have feared the publicity, the notoriety, or the challenge of having to actually defend our actions. Choosing to purely defend has not made a difference in over a decade.

If all we do is wait for the enemy to strike, we can never win. If our enemies can act with impunity, they will never know loss. Would raiders hesitate to take a founderless defender region? How often have they stopped to consider the circumstances that may have led to a founder's CTE?

Too many of my fellow Defenders have agreed to place the aggressors in a protected class. To many of my fellow Defenders have agreed that the best course of actions is to sit, watch, and react.

I do disagree with Thomas on one point though - You should not refrain from calling yourselves Defenders simply because you take the offense. Knowing someone is actively looking for an opening against them will be an unfamiliar feeling to most, if not all, current raiders. Even the threat of offense lends to the cause so many Defenders claim to fight for. You're doing what we should have been doing for ages, I say you carry this torch proudly forward.

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Postby Kyorgia » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:39 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
Kyorgia wrote:Thank you that means a lot to me coming from such a old armchair defender.

Numero Capitan has been one of the more active defenders in NS during 2016 so far. Respect your elders.

If thats the case then I am sorry, you defenders do not have a public place to post these things. That makes it hard too see I assumed Numero was like a lot of other defenders that only talk. Again sorry Numero active defenders make this so much more fun.
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Postby Ayvari » Wed Jun 01, 2016 9:42 am

Kyorgia wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Numero Capitan has been one of the more active defenders in NS during 2016 so far. Respect your elders.

If thats the case then I am sorry, you defenders do not have a public place to post these things. That makes it hard too see I assumed Numero was like a lot of other defenders that only talk. Again sorry Numero active defenders make this so much more fun.

Kyo, this is what happens when you don't talk to defenders or pay attention to what is said where. There have been plenty of mentions of NuCa and activity. AWP's thread is a good one for keeping track of defender activity in public. Also, it's not like he's going to walk around going "Yes, I have been infiltrating your regions since I came back, what's your point?" all the time. Research, Kyo.
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