Oklahoma Declares State of Emergency with Anti-Trans Law

[Chkalovsk]

Let's put it this way;

That was a bad call -- thank god for the veto, this however, is a good call.

I repeat his question.

How?

Give me 20 minutes to get home [can not be tasked with typing paragraphs on mobile] to my PC.

Until then,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dBpR36VFQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFwztGjuqt0

[The TransPecos]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

[Galloism]

I repeat his question.

How?

Give me 20 minutes to get home [can not be tasked with typing paragraphs on mobile] to my PC.

Until then,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dBpR36VFQM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFwztGjuqt0

Great, a youtube video with a loud angry dude who doesn't know what he's talking about. Well, I'm convinced.

[AiliailiA]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

You should go check on your daughter right now. She's probably looking at porn.

[Imperializt Russia]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

The point you seem to be overlooking is that "I'm trans" isn't an excuse to sexually assault or sexually abuse (exposure is abuse) children.

So the entire issue doesn't exist.

[Noraika]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

How many times has your daughter seen the vaginas of other women in the bathroom? How about seeing their buttocks? None? That's the norm. What you're describing is not. There is no reason to assume that the bathroom will operate any differently when we include people's ability to use facilities based upon their gender identity, especially when you consider the fact that your daughter has likely already used the bathroom with a transgender woman, as transgender people have been using the facilities befitting their gender identity for decades already.

Assuming you're male, and identify as such, the likelihood is that you've also shared a bathroom with a transgender man (female-to-male) as well, without realizing it, for the same reason as above.

The laws put in place simply provide the ability for individuals to use facilities based upon gender identity, which's existence is well-studied, well-established, and very important. The law does not legalize any other activity, so sexual harassment, and any other felony for that matter, remains illegal. That's how the law works. I'm curious to how you think this will somehow legalize, or establish a 'grey area' regarding these actions, because it doesn't.

You also seem to be equivocating transgender individuals, with 'perversion', which is a surprising and curious claim, if I'm interpreting what you said correctly. Mind explaining why you think this is the case?

In addition to this, regardless of the non-existence of this problem in the scores of places, such as a myriad of cities, counties, states, and entire countries, which have put in place laws formally establishing the ability for transgender individuals to used the facilities of their gender identity, for over a dozen years in some places, and them all finding that the idea that this compromises bathroom safety being non-existent at best, and a complete falsehood.

Let's not discriminate, harass, or bully people in general, but transgender youth in general also are deserving to be treated with decency and respect, and not the scores of discrimination, stigma, abuse (physical, sexual, verbal, et cetera), harassment, violence, and bullying which transgender people face in school alone, and further in public in general. Let's not reinforce this stigma and encourage discrimination through laws such as these passed in Oklahoma or North Carolina.

Now tell me, what is your reaction to these two pieces of information and pictures?

[Ifreann]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

The point you seem to be overlooking is that "I'm trans" isn't an excuse to sexually assault or sexually abuse (exposure is abuse) children.

So the entire issue doesn't exist.

It's also pretty shitty to think that the knowledge of the existence of trans people is somehow corrupting to children and will take their pwecious innocence away.

[Imperializt Russia]

Don't you see though, all trans are child molesters.
It's so obvious!

[Gauthier]

The point you seem to be overlooking is that "I'm trans" isn't an excuse to sexually assault or sexually abuse (exposure is abuse) children.

So the entire issue doesn't exist.

It's also pretty shitty to think that the knowledge of the existence of trans people is somehow corrupting to children and will take their pwecious innocence away.

Transsexuality is a virus don't you know? The second you know transgenders exists you slowly start becoming uncomfortable with your present gender!

[Ifreann]

Don't you see though, all trans are child molesters.
It's so obvious!

How could I have been so blind? D:

[Vassenor]

Let's put it this way;

That was a bad call -- thank god for the veto, this however, is a good call.

I repeat his question.

How?

Her.

[Galloism]

I repeat his question.

How?

Her.

Apologies. I shall try to remember.

[Hurdegaryp]

Don't you see though, all trans are child molesters.
It's so obvious!

How could I have been so blind? D:

It used to be the gays who were systematically called abusers of the young and the innocent, but apparently that got old. Now we have a new and exciting minority group to slap that label on for propaganda purposes!

[Crysuko]

I weep for humanity sometimes.

[The Last Abode of Pando]

What the hell is wrong with Oklahoma today?

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

[Ifreann]

What the hell is wrong with Oklahoma today?

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

No, we shouldn't.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

How many times has your daughter seen the vaginas of other women in the bathroom? How about seeing their buttocks? None? That's the norm. What you're describing is not. There is no reason to assume that the bathroom will operate any differently when we include people's ability to use facilities based upon their gender identity, especially when you consider the fact that your daughter has likely already used the bathroom with a transgender woman, as transgender people have been using the facilities befitting their gender identity for decades already.

Assuming you're male, and identify as such, the likelihood is that you've also shared a bathroom with a transgender man (female-to-male) as well, without realizing it, for the same reason as above.

The laws put in place simply provide the ability for individuals to use facilities based upon gender identity, which's existence is well-studied, well-established, and very important. The law does not legalize any other activity, so sexual harassment, and any other felony for that matter, remains illegal. That's how the law works. I'm curious to how you think this will somehow legalize, or establish a 'grey area' regarding these actions, because it doesn't.

You also seem to be equivocating transgender individuals, with 'perversion', which is a surprising and curious claim, if I'm interpreting what you said correctly. Mind explaining why you think this is the case?

In addition to this, regardless of the non-existence of this problem in the scores of places, such as a myriad of cities, counties, states, and entire countries, which have put in place laws formally establishing the ability for transgender individuals to used the facilities of their gender identity, for over a dozen years in some places, and them all finding that the idea that this compromises bathroom safety being non-existent at best, and a complete falsehood.

Let's not discriminate, harass, or bully people in general, but transgender youth in general also are deserving to be treated with decency and respect, and not the scores of discrimination, stigma, abuse (physical, sexual, verbal, et cetera), harassment, violence, and bullying which transgender people face in school alone, and further in public in general. Let's not reinforce this stigma and encourage discrimination through laws such as these passed in Oklahoma or North Carolina.

Now tell me, what is your reaction to these two pieces of information and pictures?

That using a few examples to change a national policy is stupid and intellectually dishonest.

[Liriena]

What the hell is wrong with Oklahoma today?

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

While I am sure that all American states have problems (maybe Vermont is not the cute little leftist utopia I was sold by Breitbart)... not really. As I've expressed before, I consider this sort of discriminatory legislation to be harmful, useless and nonsensical. It is clearly policy born from animosity towards trans people, and the excuses used to veil that animosity have no basis in reality.

[USS Monitor]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

Sexual harassment is still illegal. If perverts are willing to break the law by harassing someone in the first place, what makes you think they would hesitate to break the law by going in a bathroom that they are not supposed to be in?

[USS Monitor]

Seems weird to me that complete strangers can wave their **** about in front of the other sex of any age. It isn't about the law-abiding, it's about those who break the laws about display and other perversions that will certainly take advantage. Then a long time through the courts trying to decide if the shade of grey was just a little too dark or a little too white.

In any case my daughter will hence forth be escorted into any public toilet and if any one even remotely suspicious enters, she's out of there. I will also do everything I can to see that this situation does not arise in our local schools.

Dress how you want, call yourself whatever you want, but don't do it in front of the young and innocent. They can never regain that innocence.

How many times has your daughter seen the vaginas of other women in the bathroom? How about seeing their buttocks? None? That's the norm. What you're describing is not. There is no reason to assume that the bathroom will operate any differently when we include people's ability to use facilities based upon their gender identity, especially when you consider the fact that your daughter has likely already used the bathroom with a transgender woman, as transgender people have been using the facilities befitting their gender identity for decades already.

Assuming you're male, and identify as such, the likelihood is that you've also shared a bathroom with a transgender man (female-to-male) as well, without realizing it, for the same reason as above.

The laws put in place simply provide the ability for individuals to use facilities based upon gender identity, which's existence is well-studied, well-established, and very important. The law does not legalize any other activity, so sexual harassment, and any other felony for that matter, remains illegal. That's how the law works. I'm curious to how you think this will somehow legalize, or establish a 'grey area' regarding these actions, because it doesn't.

You also seem to be equivocating transgender individuals, with 'perversion', which is a surprising and curious claim, if I'm interpreting what you said correctly. Mind explaining why you think this is the case?

In addition to this, regardless of the non-existence of this problem in the scores of places, such as a myriad of cities, counties, states, and entire countries, which have put in place laws formally establishing the ability for transgender individuals to used the facilities of their gender identity, for over a dozen years in some places, and them all finding that the idea that this compromises bathroom safety being non-existent at best, and a complete falsehood.

Let's not discriminate, harass, or bully people in general, but transgender youth in general also are deserving to be treated with decency and respect, and not the scores of discrimination, stigma, abuse (physical, sexual, verbal, et cetera), harassment, violence, and bullying which transgender people face in school alone, and further in public in general. Let's not reinforce this stigma and encourage discrimination through laws such as these passed in Oklahoma or North Carolina.

Now tell me, what is your reaction to these two pieces of information and pictures?

Really is impressive how thoroughly some people can transition...

[USS Monitor]

What the hell is wrong with Oklahoma today?

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

Lots of things. Flint, Michigan has toxic drinking water. Mississippi has bad schools. Massachusetts has bad drivers. Alaska's too cold. A bunch of states are full of Republicans.

I don't know what any of it has to do with this thread or with transgender people using the bathroom.

[The Last Abode of Pando]

What the hell is wrong with Oklahoma today?

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

OK. Fine. Guys, how about this. I don't care which bathroom you use, it is just bad for humans to have rights that they will abuse to the point of national debate actually use.

[Liriena]

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

OK. Fine. Guys, how about this. I don't care which bathroom you use, it is just bad for humans to have rights that they will abuse to the point of national debate actually use.

How is it bad that trans people will use the restrooms corresponding to their gender?

[The Last Abode of Pando]

OK. Fine. Guys, how about this. I don't care which bathroom you use, it is just bad for humans to have rights that they will abuse to the point of national debate actually use.

How is it bad that trans people will use the restrooms corresponding to their gender?

Which gender?

[USS Monitor]

Maybe we should be saying, "What the hell is wrong with the parts of America that aren't Oklahoma and North Carolina today?"

While I am sure that all American states have problems (maybe Vermont is not the cute little leftist utopia I was sold by Breitbart)... not really. As I've expressed before, I consider this sort of discriminatory legislation to be harmful, useless and nonsensical. It is clearly policy born from animosity towards trans people, and the excuses used to veil that animosity have no basis in reality.

Vermont is a cute little leftist utopia, but it's got ferocious winters and the gun culture is not for everyone.