by Linux and the X » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:10 pm
by Wallenburg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:38 pm
Linux and the X wrote:RECOGNISING that radio signals cannot be made to respect national boundaries;
BELIEVING that international legislation is needed to ensure that radio systems will not cause international interference;
REALISING that standardisation of radio devices will promote international trade of the same;
DEFINES radio, for purposes of this resolution, as radiated electromagnetic energy with a frequency of 3 kHz – 300 GHz;
ALLOWS unrestricted use of any radio power and frequency necessary for communications that immediately life or property in situations in which normal forms of communication are unavailable or ineffective;
REQUIRES that radio services include amateur, broadcast, experimental, personal communications, business communications, life and safety communications, radiolocation, governmental and military communications, and aerocraft, spacecraft, and watercraft communications;
ESTABLISHES the International Radiocommunications Commission to set more detailed standards, including specific services and frequency allocations (including specific frequencies for emergency calls);
by Sciongrad » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:41 pm
"'Life' and 'property' are not nouns."
by The Imperium Empires » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:42 pm
by Wallenburg » Thu Apr 28, 2016 11:44 pm
"'Life' and 'property' are not nouns."
"Actually, they are. The clause is missing a verb."
by Tinfect » Fri Apr 29, 2016 12:16 am
Linux and the X wrote:Hrm, looks like no one got around to replacing this.
Linux and the X wrote:RECOGNISING that radio signals cannot be made to respect national boundaries;
Linux and the X wrote:BELIEVING that international legislation is needed to ensure that radio systems will not cause international interference;
Linux and the X wrote:REALISING that standardisation of radio devices will promote international trade of the same;
Linux and the X wrote:ALLOWS unrestricted use of any radio power and frequency necessary for communications that immediately life or property in situations in which normal forms of communication are unavailable or ineffective;
Linux and the X wrote:REQUIRES that radio services include amateur, broadcast, experimental, personal communications, business communications, life and safety communications, radiolocation, governmental and military communications, and aerocraft, spacecraft, and watercraft communications;
Linux and the X wrote:CLARIFIES that the standards set by the International Radiocommunications Commission must be followed by all member nations; but
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by Separatist Peoples » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:04 am
Wallenburg wrote:"Transmit signals from areas within one's own borders, with a radius of effective transmission that does not cross into foreign or international territory. I am in no way suggesting that an effort to artificially obstruct such signals from their natural transmission is feasible."
by Wallenburg » Fri Apr 29, 2016 6:31 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:Wallenburg wrote:"Transmit signals from areas within one's own borders, with a radius of effective transmission that does not cross into foreign or international territory. I am in no way suggesting that an effort to artificially obstruct such signals from their natural transmission is feasible."
"A radius of effective transmission would still exceed boundaries on smaller or narrow and long states. Your plan would either leave our segments of a population not is a perfect circle, or would cripple states that are not as wide as they are deep."
by Westercourt » Fri Apr 29, 2016 11:36 pm
If radio spillover is a problem between two nations that are that close to each other, they can work it out locally. We firmly disbelieve and refute the claim that most or even many of the nations in the WA have such a problem. We further note that there have been no major problems regarding radio spillover in the international community and express our disbelief that such a trivial issue would lead to any major problems. This proposal appears to be trying to solve a problem that does not exist, or at the least, does not exist to nearly one-quarter the extent that would require international legislation.Linux and the X wrote:BELIEVING that international legislation is needed to ensure that radio systems will not cause international interference;
We don't see how this helps international trade at all.REALISING that standardisation of radio devices will promote international trade of the same;
Wait, Ambassador, are you actually suggesting that the World Assembly require governments to host radio communication services? Westercourt hasn't used radio for decades. Westercourt's trying to run a planet, Ambassador. Radio communication is far past us. And, as the ambassador to the Imperium has noted, radio communication is easily interceptable and analogue methods of encryption are weak. And would you also have our hospitals run on radio? There is no need, Ambassador, for Westercourtial hospitals to have radio. The speed at which hospitals around Xeon can communicate and transport has saved countless lives. The clause also points out radio communication for spacecraft. That, quite frankly, is ridiculous.REQUIRES that radio services include amateur, broadcast, experimental, personal communications, business communications, life and safety communications, radiolocation, governmental and military communications, and aerocraft, spacecraft, and watercraft communications;
ESTABLISHES the International Radiocommunications Commission to set more detailed standards, including specific services and frequency allocations (including specific frequencies for emergency calls);
This is an unnecessary burden on many nations in the WA, including Westercourt. Westercourt is located on a different planet in a different system than other WA nations. Why does Westercourtial radio need to not only be reestablished, but also conform to standards intended for nations far, far from the Celerian system?CLARIFIES that the standards set by the International Radiocommunications Commission must be followed by all member nations;
by Elke and Elba » Sat Apr 30, 2016 12:44 am
Ratateague wrote:NationStates seems to hate the Geneva Convention. I've lost count in how many times someone has tried to introduce something like it. Why they don't like it is a mystery to me. Probably a lot of jingoist wingnuts.
Ardchoille wrote:When you consider that (violet) once changed the colour of the whole game for one player ... you can understand how seriously NS takes its players.
by Gim » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:43 am
REQUIRES that radio services include amateur, broadcast, experimental, personal communications, business communications, life and safety communications, radiolocation, governmental and military communications, and aerocraft, spacecraft, and watercraft communications;
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun May 01, 2016 12:03 am
Wallenburg wrote:DEFINES radio, for purposes of this resolution, as radiated electromagnetic energy with a frequency of 3 kHz – 300 GHz;
Ogenbond squint at the draft. "Ambassador, do you need medical attention? It appears you are typing gibberish. I haven't the foggiest idea what '3 kHz - 300 GHz' means."
by Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 12:14 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Wallenburg wrote:Ogenbond squint at the draft. "Ambassador, do you need medical attention? It appears you are typing gibberish. I haven't the foggiest idea what '3 kHz - 300 GHz' means."
Electromagnetic radiation which cycles between 3000 times a second and 300 billion times a second.
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun May 01, 2016 12:19 am
by Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 12:22 am
Those numbers aren't really that arbitrary. They are well at the level where it would avoid reabsorption into a molecular matrix or an atomic nucleus so we can avoid photodisintegration.
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun May 01, 2016 12:25 am
Wallenburg wrote:Those numbers aren't really that arbitrary. They are well at the level where it would avoid reabsorption into a molecular matrix or an atomic nucleus so we can avoid photodisintegration.
"I must admit, Ambassador, I have no idea what that means."
by Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 12:33 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Wallenburg wrote:"Ambassador, even Gerald couldn't translate that mess. If Gerald can't do it, it does not work."
OOC: You do realize that many member nations won't use Hertz as a unit, right?
Yes and I don't think we should promote that norm anymore. It's annoying and counterproductive. Next, oh noes! What is a second?!
Wallenburg wrote:"I must admit, Ambassador, I have no idea what that means."
Microwaves heat water by having the same frequency as the vibrations in a water molecule. They are absorbed, increasing the kinetic energy of the water molecule, creating heat. You can also do this to an atomic nucleus when your photon has the same frequency as the vibrations of the nucleus's components. This is way more awesome, since it can destroy stars, and is known as photodisintegration — nuclear fission by light alone.
by Tinfect » Sun May 01, 2016 12:36 am
Wallenburg wrote:OOC: I see. Clearly then, we should not accommodate for players RPing as nations on other worlds. Or alternate histories. Or those not set in the present day.
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by Wallenburg » Sun May 01, 2016 12:42 am
Tinfect wrote:Wallenburg wrote:OOC: I see. Clearly then, we should not accommodate for players RPing as nations on other worlds. Or alternate histories. Or those not set in the present day.
OOC:
As an FT Nation not set on Earth, that doesn't internally use the Metric System, measurements really are not important.
If it becomes an issue, convert as necessary, ICly, Imperial Translators already do it, so you'll never have to figure out how long 13 Vlet is, because it doesn't really matter, and it just causes problems.
by Tinfect » Sun May 01, 2016 12:44 am
Wallenburg wrote:First, wouldn't that count as forced RP, as my nation would have to recognize Tinfect's existence in order to comply with a resolution using its units? Second, if you are going to use units, at least spell them out. "gHz" is just lazy.
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by Imperium Anglorum » Sun May 01, 2016 1:00 am
Wallenburg wrote:OOC: Exactly how does an interwar nation like yours know about nuclear fusion and fission?
by Liagolas » Sun May 01, 2016 1:03 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Well, IA isn't an interwar nation. It just appears to be an Edwardian-era nation.
by Bears Armed » Sun May 01, 2016 5:56 am
by Wrapper » Sun May 01, 2016 6:22 am
Bears Armed wrote:OOC; re units... There was a past Modly ruling that any measurements cited in a proposal's text would actually be converted into appropriate units for each nation by the gnomes, just as they translate all proposals into everybody's languages.
However 'Hz', because it refers to a RL individual's name, might fall foul of the rule against RL references.
by Araraukar » Sun May 01, 2016 6:45 am
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
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