Right-Wing Discussion Thread

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Not if we turn inwards and prepare for the long night.
This next couple of generations is about weathering the storm. Not about successes. And trying to make it about successes just guarantees our failure.

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

Because right now liberals have started the trend and have been gaining momentum for the last century.

I don't think I will see a conservative turn in my lifetime.

[Jochistan]

Wait where did I say a single thing about posessions? Society has worked towards human rights, not posessions. You reject human rights, and therefore I find your position insane.

To hell with human rights.

We're not entitled to anything. No one is owed anything. Everything and anything that is good is through grace and mercy. Not because we are deserving of anything.

This is based on privilege. Not entitlement. God is not indebted to us. WE ARE ALL OWED NOTHING

Rights do not exist.

God didn't detail rights people have in the holy books? People weren't traditionally given rights that wouldn't be transgressed on as part of a contract with a ruling power?

[Traditionalism]

Stop calling me insane. Everything you hold on to is a perversion of Tradition. This temporal world and it's material possessions you keep lusting after tell me everything that's needed to know about what kind of spirit you have, or lack thereof.

You don't even know what tradition is. What traditions are you trying to protect?

>You don't even know what tradition is.

This patronizing attitude is going to get you nowhere.

[Old Tyrannia]

Not if we turn inwards and prepare for the long night.
This next couple of generations is about weathering the storm. Not about successes. And trying to make it about successes just guarantees our failure.

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

Ah, the "Great Man" theory. Where is Herbert Spencer when you need him? No, actually, Spencer can stay away. We have enough Social Darwinists in this thread as it is.

[Diopolis]

Not if we turn inwards and prepare for the long night.
This next couple of generations is about weathering the storm. Not about successes. And trying to make it about successes just guarantees our failure.

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

I know this because traditionalists do not have the strength to survive making a move against liberalism right now. Give it a few generations.

[Traditionalism]

To hell with human rights.

We're not entitled to anything. No one is owed anything. Everything and anything that is good is through grace and mercy. Not because we are deserving of anything.

This is based on privilege. Not entitlement. God is not indebted to us. WE ARE ALL OWED NOTHING

Rights do not exist.

God didn't detail rights people have in the holy books?

....? No.

[United Marxist Nations]

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

I know this because traditionalists do not have the strength to survive making a move against liberalism right now. Give it a few generations.

In a few generations, traditionalism will be dead.

[Traditionalism]

Stop calling me insane. Everything you hold on to is a perversion of Tradition. This temporal world and it's material possessions you keep lusting after tell me everything that's needed to know about what kind of spirit you have, or lack thereof.

It's insane to think your heretical cult can survive a confrontation with liberalism, yes.
Especially when every other traditionalist will happily stab you in the back the moment you try. You're a heretic and a revolutionary; they will denounce you loudly and quickly, then order their members to cooperate with law enforcement against you.

We have a very organized global movement. You don't know what you're talking about. The Day of the Rope is approaching.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

It's insane to think your heretical cult can survive a confrontation with liberalism, yes.
Especially when every other traditionalist will happily stab you in the back the moment you try. You're a heretic and a revolutionary; they will denounce you loudly and quickly, then order their members to cooperate with law enforcement against you.

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

What...?

[United Marxist Nations]

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

What...?

LAWWWWWWW

[Northern Davincia]

It's insane to think your heretical cult can survive a confrontation with liberalism, yes.
Especially when every other traditionalist will happily stab you in the back the moment you try. You're a heretic and a revolutionary; they will denounce you loudly and quickly, then order their members to cooperate with law enforcement against you.

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

Go out and enforce it then.

[Diopolis]

It's insane to think your heretical cult can survive a confrontation with liberalism, yes.
Especially when every other traditionalist will happily stab you in the back the moment you try. You're a heretic and a revolutionary; they will denounce you loudly and quickly, then order their members to cooperate with law enforcement against you.

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

And you are lost here. We have a very organized global movement. You don't know what you're talking about. The Day of the Rope is approaching.

I doubt it.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

It's insane to think your heretical cult can survive a confrontation with liberalism, yes.
Especially when every other traditionalist will happily stab you in the back the moment you try. You're a heretic and a revolutionary; they will denounce you loudly and quickly, then order their members to cooperate with law enforcement against you.

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

And you are lost here. We have a very organized global movement. You don't know what you're talking about. The Day of the Rope is approaching.

No bae. The federal government is the law for the time being. And you have no chance of overthrowing them, though I'd love to see the hilarious failure that would ensue when you tried.

[Diopolis]

I know this because traditionalists do not have the strength to survive making a move against liberalism right now. Give it a few generations.

In a few generations, traditionalism will be dead.

I do not think so. Traditionalism must turn inward to survive. It must prepare for the long night. But it will not die.

[Atelia]

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

Ah, the "Great Man" theory. Where is Herbert Spencer when you need him? No, actually, Spencer can stay away. We have enough Social Darwinists in this thread as it is.

What do you propose instead?

I know this because traditionalists do not have the strength to survive making a move against liberalism right now. Give it a few generations.

In a few generations, traditionalism will be dead.

EXACTLY!

How do you know this? The time of change will be sparked by an event, this event will happen because of a man. Who is to say when that man will come? Why should I believe it isnt now?

I know this because traditionalists do not have the strength to survive making a move against liberalism right now. Give it a few generations.

You westerners can do as you please, in Russia the time to strike is now, and that is the position I speak from. Again though, do you suggest I endure the torture of witnessing the destruction of all I hold dear? Do you expect me to be complacent with this?

[Traditionalism]

I AM the law. I AM law enforcement.

And you are lost here. We have a very organized global movement. You don't know what you're talking about. The Day of the Rope is approaching.

No bae. The federal government is the law for the time being. And you have no chance of overthrowing them, though I'd love to see the hilarious failure that would ensue when you tried.

[Old Tyrannia]

You don't even know what tradition is. What traditions are you trying to protect?

>You don't even know what tradition is.

This patronizing attitude is going to get you nowhere.

And neither is your refusal to directly address any point or question levelled at you. What traditions are you trying to protect? Based on your prior posts in this thread, it seems to me that far from being a traditionalist, you oppose most elements of traditional European culture and society. You reject monarchism and traditional religion, and based on your attitude to the concept of inherent human rights you probably aren't a traditionalist conservative in the American mould, so what is so traditional about your beliefs? What tradition are you following?

[Wallenburg]

No bae. The federal government is the law for the time being. And you have no chance of overthrowing them, though I'd love to see the hilarious failure that would ensue when you tried.

Clearly what I said went over your head. I am the federal government. And I am the law.

http://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/duties.html

That's not how it works. Even assuming you have a nice little badge (and I doubt you do), you're only one tiny cog in the vast machine that is law enforcement. Being that cog does not make you the government, and it certainly doesn't make you the law.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

No bae. The federal government is the law for the time being. And you have no chance of overthrowing them, though I'd love to see the hilarious failure that would ensue when you tried.

Clearly what I said went over your head. I am the federal government. And I am the law.

http://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/duties.html

You are a single US Marshal. Congratulations. That means nothing when every other member of the Marshals, the FBI, the CIA, the US Military, the ATF, the DEA, and all the state and local agencies are vehemently opposed to you. Not to mention you still have to answer to the US Government as a whole. So yeah, you arent the law - you are a singe, tiny molecule in its long arm.

[Old Tyrannia]

Ah, the "Great Man" theory. Where is Herbert Spencer when you need him? No, actually, Spencer can stay away. We have enough Social Darwinists in this thread as it is.

What do you propose instead?

Personally I tend to see history as being driven by a complex interplay of social, economic, cultural and natural factors rather than by the actions of individuals.

[Traditionalism]

Clearly what I said went over your head. I am the federal government. And I am the law.

http://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/duties.html

That's not how it works. Even assuming you have a nice little badge (and I doubt you do), you're only one tiny cog in the vast machine that is law enforcement. Being that cog does not make you the government, and it certainly doesn't make you the law.

Yeah, forget what I said. I was just talking loud. I have no badge.

[Traditionalism]

What do you propose instead?

Personally I tend to see history as being driven by a complex interplay of social, economic, cultural and natural factors rather than by the actions of individuals.

The actions of individuals are the catalyst that tie all those factors together.

Adolf Hitler, one of the greatest men to ever exist, served as this great Hero, and as the Overman.

[Diopolis]

>You don't even know what tradition is.

This patronizing attitude is going to get you nowhere.

And neither is your refusal to directly address any point or question levelled at you. What traditions are you trying to protect? Based on your prior posts in this thread, it seems to me that far from being a traditionalist, you oppose most elements of traditional European culture and society. You reject monarchism and traditional religion, and based on your attitude to the concept of inherent human rights you probably aren't a traditionalist conservative in the American mould, so what is so traditional about your beliefs? What tradition are you following?

Evola's

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Personally I tend to see history as being driven by a complex interplay of social, economic, cultural and natural factors rather than by the actions of individuals.

The actions of individuals are the catalyst that tie all those factors together.

Adolf Hitler, one of the greatest men to ever exist, served as this great Hero, and as the Overman.

Adolf Hitler.... greatest man ever to exist. Jesus Christ! The insanity is never ending!

[Traditionalism]

The actions of individuals are the catalyst that tie all those factors together.

Adolf Hitler, one of the greatest men to ever exist, served as this great Hero, and as the Overman.

Adolf Hitler.... greatest man ever to exist. Jesus Christ! The insanity is never ending!

I said one of the greatest.

You should stop mocking me.