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by The Greater Siriusian Domain » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:49 am
by Lullary » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:57 am
by Verlzonia » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:05 am
The Greater Siriusian Domain wrote:While I can agree with the idea behind this resolution, this is something that should be handled on the national level. Forcing nations that do not have an issue with either crime or law enforcement to waste funding on programs intended for those that do is counter-productive and could, in some cases, result in economic issues.
I will not support this resolution, and I will suggest that the other member nations of the Orion Arm oppose this as well.
by Blackledge » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:59 am
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by Fresynde » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:50 am
by Potted Plants United » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:52 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:"NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE!"
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by Lienastates » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:05 am
by Araraukar » Sun Apr 10, 2016 8:32 am
Lienastates wrote:Other nations may have a corrupt dystopian police regimes who abuse the power.
Our nation is against this legislation and cannot comprehend the overwhelming support for this resolution.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Separatist Peoples » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:10 am
by Astrolinium » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:36 am
by Araraukar » Sun Apr 10, 2016 9:50 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: we need to raise the bloody approval requirement. It may not have helped with this, but it sure would help with this kind of crap. 8% or bust!
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Excidium Planetis » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:00 am
Araraukar wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: we need to raise the bloody approval requirement. It may not have helped with this, but it sure would help with this kind of crap. 8% or bust!
OOC: Pfft, make it a minimum of 30% while you're at it. 10% if you've made at least 1k posts on the GA forum. :P
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by Langersland » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:07 am
Pacifica Solaris wrote:A dictatorship that makes Idi Amin Dada's regime look sane
by Araraukar » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:08 am
Excidium Planetis wrote:Let's not encourage spam.
Apologies for absences, non-COVID health issues leave me with very little energy at times.Giovenith wrote:And sorry hun, if you were looking for a forum site where nobody argued, you've come to wrong one.
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:11 am
Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: we need to raise the bloody approval requirement. It may not have helped with this, but it sure would help with this kind of crap. 8% or bust!
Louisistan wrote:"This resolution presents a non-solution to a problem which does not even exist in many member nations. Fortunately, the regional poll stands firmly opposed and I am quite happy to cast 512 votes against it."
by Yoite » Sun Apr 10, 2016 10:25 am
by Lentus » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:26 am
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Bah. Passive voice is and should never be a reason to oppose or support a resolution. Even if passive is the correct way to write (which it is, because it obscures and thereby protects the actor of an action, i.e. 'Mistakes were made'), it's not compelling as a reason for voting one way or another.
There are much better reasons to oppose.
"Funds will be needed..." from who? The WA or the host nation?
"The host nation will supply funds to Police Education Programs."
by Imperium Anglorum » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:30 am
Lentus wrote:Also, it's not the voice of the resolution that makes me vote against it, it's the fact that the voice makes it ineffective. It's great to use passive voice when talking to your boss to protect an identity (e.g."Mistakes were made today that halted production"), but when passing a law you should be specific."Funds will be needed..." from who? The WA or the host nation?
"The host nation will supply funds to Police Education Programs."
As it is currently written, it simply states funds will be needed. Who has the responsibility of supplying money? If you don't say, it's left up to the interpreter.
Lentus wrote:Who creates the education program, the World Assembly or the host nation? Had you put, "The World Assembly, RECOGNIZING..." in the beginning, or even near the action clause "The World Assembly, HEREBY creates..." then that question would have a clear answer.
Lentus wrote:If the World Assembly creates the program, then I have nothing to do with it but to implement it. If I create it, then I have full control, which presents issues that have been articulated well by others (length of the program, nature of content, how much money to supply, etc).
by Separatist Peoples » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:02 pm
Imperium Anglorum wrote:Separatist Peoples wrote:OOC: we need to raise the bloody approval requirement. It may not have helped with this, but it sure would help with this kind of crap. 8% or bust!
Scion's RAT II barely made quorum. I think we ought keep quorum where it is. At least these bad resolutions encourage activity, if nothing else. The alternative is much worse.
Araraukar wrote:-snip-
by Aaaah Snaaaake » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:36 pm
Langersland wrote:"A trusting relationship? PAH!"
"Fear is all that is required to keep order, not 'understanding' or 'cohesion'"
"If my men want to beat criminals to within an inch of their lives, they don't need education about hearts and minds..."
"This is an unnecessary and flagrant breach of national sovereignty."
"This is tyranny."
by Meridional Indochina » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:37 pm
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