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by Juristonia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:48 am
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.
by Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:52 am
by Juristonia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:56 am
Ifreann wrote:Juristonia wrote:
I personally wouldn't, but what business is it of mine what two consenting adults decide to do, as long as it's not actively hurting someone?
You might think that the sort of far-right poster who wants Muslims expelled from Europe lest they force their religion, morals, Sharia law, and the Arabic language on us would be in favour of letting people do as they please in so far as they don't hurt anyone. But no! What they want is to force their own religion, morals, system of laws, and language on us!
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.
by New Socialist South Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:06 am
Republic of Wreptzle wrote:New Socialist South Africa wrote:
The problem in regards to the argument against necrophillia is that people have far less conviction about spitting in public (which frankly where I come from is not considered a real issue outside of the most elite of circles, we have a slightly rougher view of health and safety) than they do about their sexual preferences. The problem is that if we can ban consenting necrophillia due to health concerns, should we not also consider banning scat play, etc? What is the balance between sexual freedom and public health concern?
The issues with the second argument is that it is already built on a shaky premise (what if the condom breaks through no fault of the couples own AND abortion is turned down / unavailable AND the child turns out particularly handicapped). This is compounded with a failure to really address why, if the concern for the children is really the concern, incest is worse under this view than sex between people one or both of whom have genetic predisposition to mental or physical handicaps.
With necrophilia, people's conviction doesn't have to come into account. Those who want to practice it do not experience the "need" necessary to warrant the rejection of concern for the health risks involved. The difference between necrophilia and scat play is a very distinct one; the scat would have come from a living person whose immune system was intact when the scat was produced. Though the scat could spread some diseases, the total number is far less than what could be spread by a dead human body. As mentioned in the article I linked, the body becomes riddled with a multitude of diseases once the immune system is no longer in operation.
My incest argument is not built on a shaky premise at all. There is a number of ways in which a pregnancy can occur and such an outcome is anything but uncommon. More important than the failure of contraceptives or condemns is the fact that a significant number of couples who have sex choose not to use protection. To be more specific, only 62% of women who don't plan on getting pregnant actively use contraceptives when having sex. That leaves a significant number of the population that leave themselves at risk; a statistic that is likely to be at a similar level in cases of incest.
http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contr_use.html
The difference between those with genetic disorders having children and children being born out of incest is that the children born from those with disorders have less of a chance of suffering from the same disorder as their parent than the children born from siblings who would double their child's chance of displaying a genetic disorder.
Olthar wrote:Anyone who buys "x-ray specs" expecting them to be real deserves to lose their money.
by New Socialist South Africa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:13 am
Belhorizon wrote:Ailiailia wrote:
Incest between family members 15 and older. 15 is the legal age of consent in Sweden.
Necrophilia between (presumably) an adult, and a piece of meat which once was a human person.
How is pedophilia next?
That's an absurd slippery slope. I presume you can't make an argument against incest or necrophilia?
Can you make an argument against Pedophilia with consent?
Olthar wrote:Anyone who buys "x-ray specs" expecting them to be real deserves to lose their money.
by Kaltura » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:48 am
by Esternial » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:53 am
Kaltura wrote:Where the fuck are they gonna get the bodies? I'm pretty sure someone who's on their death bed doesn't want there body to be fucked after they die, let's also think of how the relatives feel about this. Imagine your Mum's just died and a guy knocks on your door and goes: "We heard your mother has unfortunately died, we are sorry for your loss, would you like some random creep to fuck her before you put her in the ground?"
Incest on the other hand I could handle as long as they are not allowed to reproduce, if they want children they can adopt.
by Gauthier » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:54 am
Esternial wrote:Kaltura wrote:Where the fuck are they gonna get the bodies? I'm pretty sure someone who's on their death bed doesn't want there body to be fucked after they die, let's also think of how the relatives feel about this. Imagine your Mum's just died and a guy knocks on your door and goes: "We heard your mother has unfortunately died, we are sorry for your loss, would you like some random creep to fuck her before you put her in the ground?"
Incest on the other hand I could handle as long as they are not allowed to reproduce, if they want children they can adopt.
You can't speak for all people. Some folks are into some very..."kinky" stuff. There are people that find blood arousing.
If you've got a couple of necrophiliacs, I wouldn't find it surprising that they'd both want to let the other realise their fantasy should they die.
by Seraven » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:56 am
Pommerstan wrote:The youth wing of the Swedish Liberal party has filed a motion to legalize necrophilia and incest
They want to legalize sex between two consenting siblings over the age of 15, and sex with a corpse if there is a written permission made before the person died.
'We don't like morality laws in general, and this legislation is not protecting anyone right now,' Cecilia Johnsson, Liberal Youth chairperson in Stockholm told Aftonbladet.
'We are a youth wing and one of our tasks is to think one step further.
It also said that if a person has stated in a written will that they consent to someone having sex with their corpse, this should also be legal.
'It should be your own decision what happens with your body after you die, and if that happens to be that you want to bequeath your remains to a museum or to science, or if you want to bequeath your remains to someone to sleep with them, then that should be ok,' Ms Johnsson adds.
Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... enior.html
Since it is from the Daily Mail I shall post from swedish mainstream media because it was the only english source I could find: http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article22305329.ab
I personally do not agree with this and think it is to bit far. So, what the NSG audience say about this proposal? Should necropfilia and incest be legalised?
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Lamaredia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:57 am
Redsection wrote:Dear god , the left wants to do what ? This is just disturbing ...
by Ifreann » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:58 am
Kaltura wrote:Where the fuck are they gonna get the bodies? I'm pretty sure someone who's on their death bed doesn't want there body to be fucked after they die,
let's also think of how the relatives feel about this. Imagine your Mum's just died and a guy knocks on your door and goes: "We heard your mother has unfortunately died, we are sorry for your loss, would you like some random creep to fuck her before you put her in the ground?"
Incest on the other hand I could handle as long as they are not allowed to reproduce, if they want children they can adopt.
by Seraven » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:01 am
Pommerstan wrote:Lamaredia wrote:The left? The Swedish Liberal Party is center-right.
Actually in Sweden it is a bit different. Every ideology in Sweden is more toward left than its european counterparts. The "conservative" Moderate Party for instance allowed mass immigration to Sweden and flexibiled the laws so migrants cannot be deported.
Is Sweden a weird country?
The Alma Mater wrote:Seraven wrote:I know right! Whites enslaved the natives, they killed them, they converted them forcibly, they acted like a better human beings than the Muslims.
An excellent example of why allowing unrestricted immigration of people with a very different culture might not be the best idea ever :P
by Lamaredia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:01 am
Pommerstan wrote:Lamaredia wrote:The left? The Swedish Liberal Party is center-right.
Actually in Sweden it is a bit different. Every ideology in Sweden is more toward left than its european counterparts. The "conservative" Moderate Party for instance allowed mass immigration to Sweden and flexibiled the laws so migrants cannot be deported.
Is Sweden a weird country?
by Lamaredia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:04 am
Belhorizon wrote:Ailiailia wrote:
Incest between family members 15 and older. 15 is the legal age of consent in Sweden.
Necrophilia between (presumably) an adult, and a piece of meat which once was a human person.
How is pedophilia next?
That's an absurd slippery slope. I presume you can't make an argument against incest or necrophilia?
Can you make an argument against Pedophilia with consent?
by Lamaredia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:05 am
Pommerstan wrote:Lamaredia wrote:The Moderate party isn't conservative. They don't say they are either. They're liberals, and consider themselves as such. (Borgare).
The only real "conservative" parties in Sweden are the Christian Democrats and the Swedish Democrats.
Well ok. I would not consider the Moderate Party a right-leaning as well.
by Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:06 am
Kaltura wrote:Where the fuck are they gonna get the bodies? I'm pretty sure someone who's on their death bed doesn't want there body to be fucked after they die, let's also think of how the relatives feel about this. Imagine your Mum's just died and a guy knocks on your door and goes: "We heard your mother has unfortunately died, we are sorry for your loss, would you like some random creep to fuck her before you put her in the ground?"
Incest on the other hand I could handle as long as they are not allowed to reproduce, if they want children they can adopt.
by Dahon » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:24 am
Italios wrote:Incest can create a higher chance for the baby to have a genetic disorder. Technically, you'd be knowingly passing these disorders to a fetus/child through incest. If we're legalising incest, necrophilia must be too. While diseases can be contracted through necrophilia, they won't impact anyone else except you, so you'll have free will to do it and take the risk.
Explain to me how one is worse than the other without the ew factor.
by The Forsworn Knights » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:36 am
by Kauthar » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:40 am
Pommerstan wrote:Lamaredia wrote:The left? The Swedish Liberal Party is center-right.
Actually in Sweden it is a bit different. Every ideology in Sweden is more toward left than its european counterparts. The "conservative" Moderate Party for instance allowed mass immigration to Sweden and flexibiled the laws so migrants cannot be deported.
Is Sweden a weird country?
by Lamaredia » Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:46 am
Kauthar wrote:Pommerstan wrote:Actually in Sweden it is a bit different. Every ideology in Sweden is more toward left than its european counterparts. The "conservative" Moderate Party for instance allowed mass immigration to Sweden and flexibiled the laws so migrants cannot be deported.
Is Sweden a weird country?
and the democrats are the closest to right-wing in sweden
by Mike the Progressive » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:10 am
by Blakullar » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:34 am
Mike the Progressive wrote:The youth wing are fucking morons.
by Slakonian » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:42 am
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