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If Iran was to attempt to attack Israel with a nuclear weapon, how should the world respond?

Continue to attempt to come to a diplomatic solution with their leaders.
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16%
Press additional sanctions on them.
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2%
Neutralize the threat through targeted air strikes against their nuclear facilities.
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23%
Begin a full-scale air campaign.
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16%
Launch a land invasion.
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Vaporize them.
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Postby Greater Allidron » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:36 am

New Benian Republic wrote:
Greater Allidron wrote:Huh? This is if Iran launched first.

That's never going to happen though, Iran is too smart to launch the first strike. If however they did launch the first strike for me it would matter who they attacked.

I agree that despite all their inflammatory and dangerous remarks they wouldn't resort to launching a nuke at someone. But why would it matter who got nukes? If I was the President of the United States I would respond whether it was Russia nuked or Israel nuked, because nuking anyone is wrong.
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:38 am

Greater Allidron wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:That's never going to happen though, Iran is too smart to launch the first strike. If however they did launch the first strike for me it would matter who they attacked.

I agree that despite all their inflammatory and dangerous remarks they wouldn't resort to launching a nuke at someone. But why would it matter who got nukes? If I was the President of the United States I would respond whether it was Russia nuked or Israel nuked, because nuking anyone is wrong.


Actual Nationstates, even Best Korea have no real incentive to use nuclear weaponry without a threat to their own existence. If anything the only group most likely to use them without provocation would be terrorist groups like Daesh.
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Postby New Benian Republic » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:40 am

Gauthier wrote:
Greater Allidron wrote:I agree that despite all their inflammatory and dangerous remarks they wouldn't resort to launching a nuke at someone. But why would it matter who got nukes? If I was the President of the United States I would respond whether it was Russia nuked or Israel nuked, because nuking anyone is wrong.


Actual Nationstates, even Best Korea have no real incentive to use nuclear weaponry without a threat to their own existence. If anything the only group most likely to use them without provocation would be terrorist groups like Daesh.

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Postby New Benian Republic » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:42 am

Greater Allidron wrote:
New Benian Republic wrote:That's never going to happen though, Iran is too smart to launch the first strike. If however they did launch the first strike for me it would matter who they attacked.

I agree that despite all their inflammatory and dangerous remarks they wouldn't resort to launching a nuke at someone. But why would it matter who got nukes? If I was the President of the United States I would respond whether it was Russia nuked or Israel nuked, because nuking anyone is wrong.

Iran would never nuke Russia since they're kind of allies. And if Iran were to nuke Israel i would side with Iran if it came down to it since it would most likely be instigated by Israel.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 7:54 am

Lupinus wrote:Not sure if this is a realistic scenario. Iran wants nukes because it feels threatened by the US and they think having them will give them some guarantee of sovereignty. Same reason North Korea developed them.

I'm not even convinced Iran wants nukes.

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Postby Teutonic Terror » Mon Jan 25, 2016 8:54 am

The CyberRepublic wrote:
Louis20 wrote:Continue to attempt to come to a diplomatic solution with their leaders. I Would Support Iran


Why in the world would you support a country who launches a surprise nuclear attack against civilians?

Sorry, what? They've done no such thing. In fact, the US is the only country to ever do that.
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:02 am

Teutonic Terror wrote:
The CyberRepublic wrote:
Why in the world would you support a country who launches a surprise nuclear attack against civilians?

Sorry, what? They've done no such thing. In fact, the US is the only country to ever do that.

If they did is what they are talking about. This is all a hypothetical remember?
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:05 am

Alvecia wrote:
Lupinus wrote:Not sure if this is a realistic scenario. Iran wants nukes because it feels threatened by the US and they think having them will give them some guarantee of sovereignty. Same reason North Korea developed them.

I'm not even convinced Iran wants nukes.

They've issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons. They really don't want nukes. One of the head religious guys even said that nuclear weapons are against Islam.
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Postby Teutonic Terror » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:05 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Teutonic Terror wrote:Sorry, what? They've done no such thing. In fact, the US is the only country to ever do that.

If they did is what they are talking about. This is all a hypothetical remember?

Oh, right.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:05 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Teutonic Terror wrote:Sorry, what? They've done no such thing. In fact, the US is the only country to ever do that.

If they did is what they are talking about. This is all a hypothetical remember?


I'm still waiting for the non hypothetical evidence that prompted the question in the first place.

The CyberRepublic wrote:Despite the recent efforts to prevent it, evidence still suggests that the Islamic Republic of Iran is developing technology needed to launch a nuclear attack.
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:06 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:I'm not even convinced Iran wants nukes.

They've issued a fatwa against nuclear weapons. They really don't want nukes. One of the head religious guys even said that nuclear weapons are against Islam.

Sounds close to what I recall.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:07 am

Alvecia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:If they did is what they are talking about. This is all a hypothetical remember?


I'm still waiting for the non hypothetical evidence that prompted the question in the first place.

The CyberRepublic wrote:Despite the recent efforts to prevent it, evidence still suggests that the Islamic Republic of Iran is developing technology needed to launch a nuclear attack.

See Fox News.
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Postby Austria and Bavaria » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:08 am

Vaporize their command structure, send in special forces to seize Tehran, and restore the Shah to his throne.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:09 am

Do you think the Iranian leadership are imbeciles? Of course they won't attack Israel, Iran knows exactly what would happen and has no reasons beyond the ideological to do so. Iran's nuclear program probably has more to do with the fact that it is now the one Shia power in the Islamic world besieged by Saudi-funded Wahabbis...well, and, y'know, they probably began developing this after the leader of the most powerful country on earth gave them involuntary membership of the prestigious "Axis of Evil".
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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:
I'm still waiting for the non hypothetical evidence that prompted the question in the first place.


See Fox News.

Oh. That "evidence".

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:10 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:they probably began developing this after the leader of the most powerful country on earth gave them involuntary membership of the prestigious "Axis of Evil".

Care to elaborate further on this point?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:10 am

Austria and Bavaria wrote:Vaporize their command structure, send in special forces to seize Tehran, and restore the Shah to his throne.

Um one problem. If you vaporize their command structure that basically means that Tehran is no more. This isn't battlefield 3 we don't have tactical nukes.
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Postby White European States » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:11 am

Trollgaard wrote:
Jochistan wrote:Expensive, unnecessary and borderline genocide.


A necessary statement that unprovoked nuclear attacks will result in complete and utter annihilation.


But Israel should be destroyed too.

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:12 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Austria and Bavaria wrote:Vaporize their command structure, send in special forces to seize Tehran, and restore the Shah to his throne.

Um one problem. If you vaporize their command structure that basically means that Tehran is no more. This isn't battlefield 3 we don't have tactical nukes.

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Postby Erstonia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:12 am

If I am the leader of US, I would sit and drink some Tv while watching news report about Israel-Iran Nuclear War.
They both deserves vaporization.

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Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:12 am

Alvecia wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:they probably began developing this after the leader of the most powerful country on earth gave them involuntary membership of the prestigious "Axis of Evil".

Care to elaborate further on this point?


I would guess that a large motivation for Iran's nuclear program lies in the historical hostility of the United States to their regime.
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Postby White European States » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:12 am

Erstonia wrote:If I am the leader of US, I would sit and drink some Tv while watching news report about Israel-Iran Nuclear War.
They both deserves vaporization.


I FULLY AGREE!

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Postby Alvecia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:14 am

Greater Mackonia wrote:
Alvecia wrote:Care to elaborate further on this point?


I would guess that a large motivation for Iran's nuclear program lies in the historical hostility of the United States to their regime.

What nuclear program? Have they begun building reactors?
What do power plants have to do with "American hostility"?

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:17 am

White European States wrote:
Trollgaard wrote:
A necessary statement that unprovoked nuclear attacks will result in complete and utter annihilation.


But Israel should be destroyed too.

Why? Israel has the same right to exist as a nation just as Iran does.
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Postby Greater Mackonia » Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:18 am

Alvecia wrote:
Greater Mackonia wrote:
I would guess that a large motivation for Iran's nuclear program lies in the historical hostility of the United States to their regime.

What nuclear program? Have they begun building reactors?
What do power plants have to do with "American hostility"?


Because when the world's most powerful country accuses your nation of being part of an "axis of evil", and has shown themselves to be quite willing to depose the governments of nearby states on this axis - it is not altogether nonsensical for you to seek some kind of power equity in the form of a good ol' nuke a la Norh Korea.

As I said, I think the motivation primarily stems from Saudi Arabia, not the United States.
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