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by The Alma Mater » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:03 pm
by Caninope » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:06 pm
Grave_n_idle wrote:Caninope wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:Der Teutoniker wrote:Nope, he wasn't at all.
Advocating free-will charity is quite a bit different than"no-state" state enforced wealth redistribution.
And the notion that rich people are potentially less likely to enter the kingdom of God is not communist. It merely demonstrates the truth behind the corrupting allure of wealth, and the amassing of wealth.
One can be rich, and still a Christian (that is to say, a follower of Jesus).
No, one can be rich and call oneself a Christian. Not the same thing.
No, you can be rich and still be a Christian. It just becomes harder as the more wordly riches you have, the harder it is to give your soul to the Lord. That doesn't make them mutually exclusive.
No, you can't. If you're rich, you're not a Christian, you're lying to yourself and paying lip-service to Christ.
Jesus was pretty explicit about giving away your wealth. If you have wealth, you're placing your temporal comfort above Jesus' will - and that means you're no real Christian.
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.
by Allbeama » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:08 pm
Dododecapod wrote:No. The Jesus of the Bible was an ascetic - one who seeks to live simply, without the distractions of goods and ownership, that he may perfect himself spiritually. When asked how to be a good folower of him, he says to do likewise, to give away your worldly goods and follow the ascetic path.
A good communist wants everyone to have equal access to everything. Jesus wanted to have nothing.
by Sebally-Orwitskia » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:13 pm
Tungookska wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.
you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?
by Meryuma » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:13 pm
Niur wrote: my soul has no soul.
Saint Clair Island wrote:The English language sucks. From now on, I will refer to the second definition of sexual as "fucktacular."
Trotskylvania wrote:Alternatively, we could go on an epic quest to Plato's Cave to find the legendary artifact, Ockham's Razor.
Norstal wrote:Gunpowder Plot: America.
Meryuma: "Well, I just hope these hyperboles don't...
*puts on sunglasses*
blow out of proportions."
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
by Tyrandis » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:15 pm
by The Alma Mater » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:15 pm
Okijima Rulz wrote:Liberal, yes. Communist? No.
by Ceannairceach » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:16 pm
by Wales64 » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:20 pm
Sebally-Orwitskia wrote:Tungookska wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.
you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?
Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?
by Pancakes Wrath » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:24 pm
Sebally-Orwitskia wrote:Tungookska wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.
you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?
Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?
by The Adrian Empire » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:25 pm
Faith Hope Charity wrote:I would just like to take this time to say... The Adrian Empire is awesome.
by Ceannairceach » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:26 pm
Pancakes Wrath wrote:Sebally-Orwitskia wrote:Tungookska wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.
you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?
Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?
It isn't anywhere in the Bible. IIRC a sixth-century pope claimed she was a prostitute for some reason.
by Sebally-Orwitskia » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:27 pm
Pancakes Wrath wrote:Sebally-Orwitskia wrote:Tungookska wrote:Lunatic Goofballs wrote:I'm not convinced that an individual can be a communist. Oh, an individual might tout the benefits of communism both real and imagined, but to actually practice communism, he really needs some people to practice communism with.
you mean like the 12 guys and the prostitute that he hung out with?
Dear god this may be old, but, where the heck did it say Mary Magadalene was a prostitute?
It isn't anywhere in the Bible. IIRC a sixth-century pope claimed she was a prostitute for some reason.
by Grave_n_idle » Tue Jul 20, 2010 10:56 pm
Caninope wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:Caninope wrote:Grave_n_idle wrote:Der Teutoniker wrote:Nope, he wasn't at all.
Advocating free-will charity is quite a bit different than"no-state" state enforced wealth redistribution.
And the notion that rich people are potentially less likely to enter the kingdom of God is not communist. It merely demonstrates the truth behind the corrupting allure of wealth, and the amassing of wealth.
One can be rich, and still a Christian (that is to say, a follower of Jesus).
No, one can be rich and call oneself a Christian. Not the same thing.
No, you can be rich and still be a Christian. It just becomes harder as the more wordly riches you have, the harder it is to give your soul to the Lord. That doesn't make them mutually exclusive.
No, you can't. If you're rich, you're not a Christian, you're lying to yourself and paying lip-service to Christ.
Jesus was pretty explicit about giving away your wealth. If you have wealth, you're placing your temporal comfort above Jesus' will - and that means you're no real Christian.
Do not falsely equate being rich with having worldly comforts.
by Sanctus Angelus » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:02 am
Bendira wrote:lol at how the commies dont want to be associated with Jesus, even though they have the same message.
by Mikoyan-Guryevich » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:05 am
Natapoc wrote:yes. He gave everything away for free and insisted the rich give all they had if they wanted to follow him.
by Neo Mittanni » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:09 am
Pandas and Heineken wrote:After watching some religious crap, it seems that Jesus hated the rich and loved the poor. To me, it seems that Jesus constantly stated that the rich had no power over the poor. Jesus even said himself:
"It's very hard for a rich man to get into Heaven. It's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle."
This says to me that unless you're poor, you're going to Hell. Thoughts?
NOTE: PLEASE DON'T TURN THIS INTO A RELIGION DISCUSSION!
by Johz » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:17 am
Living Freedom Land wrote:The Holy Bible wrote:It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. And they were astonished out of measure, saying among themselves, Who then can be saved? And Jesus looking upon them saith, With men it is impossible, but not with God: for with God all things are possible.
The Bible clearly says, with God, all things are possible. The real problem is not wealth, but that men let wealth get between them and God.
by Johz » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:20 am
Rambhutan wrote:More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.
by Sebally-Orwitskia » Wed Jul 21, 2010 2:37 am
Rambhutan wrote:More of a welfare scrounger, never got a job and leeched off the people around him.
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