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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:10 pm

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Old Testament is almost obsolete now, and is followed by Muslims. If it's bad, so is Islam.

Not all followers of the Old Testament - Jews and Muslims - follow it word for word.

Muslims think the OT is corrupted.
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Postby Italios » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:10 pm

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Geilinor wrote:I'm not sure about Muslims, but Jews follow the Old Testament. By that logic, Judaism is bad.


But it's not bad.

"By that logic"

What Geilinor is trying to say is that if you use your reasoning that "The people who follow a bad religious text are bad" you're going to get some questionable results. Right?
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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But it's not bad.

You just said that following the Old Testament is bad.


When? I said IF it's bad, so is Islam. Very simple wording.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not true at all. More than one way to interpret the Koran.


Muhammad interpreted it very violently.

And most Muslims do not.
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Postby Ciliath » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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Ciliath wrote:Don't use a single example to back yourself up
Gallup international did a poll a few years ago in which 7% of Muslims were found to be extremists, or about 116 million. That is the best info we have.

"A man on the Internet once told me that if you cite a poll, people will believe whatever you say."

http://www.gallup.com/poll/104941/what- ... dical.aspx
http://media.gallup.com/WorldPoll/PDF/E ... mWorld.pdf
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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Italios wrote:Not all followers of the Old Testament - Jews and Muslims - follow it word for word.


I know. I never said that.

But you are suggesting that not following the Qur'an makes these people not true Muslims. Why does someone have to follow their faith to the letter (through your translation of the Arabic) to be a "true" member of their religion?
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Postby Italios » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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Italios wrote:Not all followers of the Old Testament - Jews and Muslims - follow it word for word.


I know. I never said that.

So therefore not all Muslims are going to refuse to befriend Christians and Jews. It's that simple.
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Postby Morr » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:11 pm

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Geilinor wrote:I'm not sure about Muslims, but Jews follow the Old Testament. By that logic, Judaism is bad.

Christianity also uses the Old Testament, if anyone's forgotten that bit. :p

But most of it is fulfilled, so it takes on a very different meaning.

See Hebrews 8:13
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:12 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I'm not sure about Muslims, but Jews follow the Old Testament. By that logic, Judaism is bad.

Christianity also uses the Old Testament, if anyone's forgotten that bit. :p


Indeed, and the OT's not bad. i used very simple wording, and none of you understand. Do I need to talk in ebonics?
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:12 pm

Italios wrote:
Visegradian Poland wrote:
I know. I never said that.

So therefore not all Muslims are going to refuse to befriend Christians and Jews. It's that simple.


That verse is in the qu'ran. Which Muslims follow, and is bad.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:13 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Christianity also uses the Old Testament, if anyone's forgotten that bit. :p


Indeed, and the OT's not bad. i used very simple wording, and none of you understand. Do I need to talk in ebonics?

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Postby Ciliath » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:13 pm

Senkaku wrote:
Ciliath wrote:Don't use a single example to back yourself up
Gallup international did a poll a few years ago in which 7% of Muslims were found to be extremists, or about 116 million. That is the best info we have.

"A man on the Internet once told me that if you cite a poll, people will believe whatever you say."

What is wrong with polls? I linked you to both of them
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:13 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Not true at all. More than one way to interpret the Koran.


Muhammad interpreted it very violently.

You do know the Qur'an was written after... never mind.


Visegradian Poland wrote:
Senkaku wrote:Christianity also uses the Old Testament, if anyone's forgotten that bit. :p


Indeed, and the OT's not bad. i used very simple wording, and none of you understand. Do I need to talk in ebonics?

I think you just need to talk sense. Maybe lay off the wodka in your sig a little? Who knows.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:13 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Italios wrote:So therefore not all Muslims are going to refuse to befriend Christians and Jews. It's that simple.


That verse is in the qu'ran. Which Muslims follow, and is bad.

Most Muslims don't follow the Quran word-for-word.
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:14 pm

Senkaku wrote:
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I know. I never said that.

But you are suggesting that not following the Qur'an makes these people not true Muslims. Why does someone have to follow their faith to the letter (through your translation of the Arabic) to be a "true" member of their religion?


Because if they don't follow the qu'ran, they're not Muslims. You need to follow it to be Muslim, or, according to the quran, you're a hypocrite. According to sane people, such as ourselves, it's being a good person.
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Postby Chemaki » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:14 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Geilinor wrote:I'm not sure about Muslims, but Jews follow the Old Testament. By that logic, Judaism is bad.


But it's not bad.


But it is bad, according to your logic there is a global persecution of Muslims by Jews, and thus Judaism is a bad religion... you can't have certain standards for one religion and not another, that's the very definition is discrimination.

The Christian Bible also instructs that homosexuals should be executed. Does that mean you are a bad Christian for tolerating homosexuals? Does that mean Christianity is a bad religion?
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:14 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Italios wrote:So therefore not all Muslims are going to refuse to befriend Christians and Jews. It's that simple.


That verse is in the qu'ran. Which Muslims follow, and is bad.

And most Muslims do not follow word for word, just like many Jews and Christians with their respective texts, unless you know alot of Christians that took their disobedient children to be stoned by the town gates recently. What is your point exactly?
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:14 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Visegradian Poland wrote:
That verse is in the qu'ran. Which Muslims follow, and is bad.

Most Muslims don't follow the Quran word-for-word.


They're not Muslims, they're good people.
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Postby Ciliath » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Does this honestly matter? This is a singular incident that the news is reporting because there is nothing better. It's like the US news reporting every shooting that happens, even though crime rates are basically the same.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Most Muslims don't follow the Quran word-for-word.


They're not Muslims, they're good people.

Then I guess most Christians are not real Christians.
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Visegradian Poland wrote:
That verse is in the qu'ran. Which Muslims follow, and is bad.

And most Muslims do not follow word for word, just like many Jews and Christians with their respective texts, unless you know alot of Christians that took their disobedient children to be stoned by the town gates recently. What is your point exactly?


Lemme guess, part of the obsolete OT? Thought so.
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Postby Italios » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Senkaku wrote:But you are suggesting that not following the Qur'an makes these people not true Muslims. Why does someone have to follow their faith to the letter (through your translation of the Arabic) to be a "true" member of their religion?


Because if they don't follow the qu'ran, they're not Muslims. You need to follow it to be Muslim, or, according to the quran, you're a hypocrite. According to sane people, such as ourselves, it's being a good person.

And most Muslims don't follow the Qu'ran word for word. Which means that the ones who don't probably will disregard the bit about needing to follow it exactly to be a true Muslim.
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:15 pm

Bezkoshtovnya wrote:
Visegradian Poland wrote:
They're not Muslims, they're good people.

Then I guess most Christians are not real Christians.


Christianity teaches peace, unlike Islam.
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Postby Visegradian Poland » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:16 pm

Italios wrote:
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Because if they don't follow the qu'ran, they're not Muslims. You need to follow it to be Muslim, or, according to the quran, you're a hypocrite. According to sane people, such as ourselves, it's being a good person.

And most Muslims don't follow the Qu'ran word for word. Which means that the ones who don't probably will disregard the bit about needing to follow it exactly to be a true Muslim.


Yes, but according to the qu'ran, and by extension, Allah, they're not Muslims.
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Postby Bezkoshtovnya » Tue Dec 22, 2015 5:16 pm

Visegradian Poland wrote:
Bezkoshtovnya wrote:Then I guess most Christians are not real Christians.


Christianity teaches peace, unlike Islam.

Exactly why 1.6 billion of them are peaceful people.
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