It's just the only one that can be taken seriously at this point.
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by The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:21 pm
by Imperium Sidhicum » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:23 pm
by Jochistan » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:23 pm
by The Alma Mater » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:24 pm
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:25 pm
by USS Monitor » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:26 pm
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:26 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Tierra Prime wrote:We don't know the skin colour of early humans, or really were they started. There are other theories other than the Africa hypothesis.
We actually do. White skin was shown to be a mutation several years ago. Which of course nicely supports the "out of Africa" hypothesis; but is independent of it.
by Verdiga » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:27 pm
Imperium Sidhicum wrote:I guess this discovery is going to give a whole new meaning to the term "whigger"...
by Pulau Singapura » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:27 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Tungsten Horde wrote:It's just the only one that can be taken seriously at this point.
It is likely correct, but there is always the chance another skeleton will turn up somewhere else. There's too much we still don't know to be able to say for sure that modern humans were originally all black-skinned. They could have very well been Mediterranean skinned, with darker skinned people emerging from those who remained in Africa, and lighter skinned people emerging from those who left.
by The Alma Mater » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:28 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
We actually do. White skin was shown to be a mutation several years ago. Which of course nicely supports the "out of Africa" hypothesis; but is independent of it.
That depends on what you consider to be "white." The earliest known human whose appearance is known was olive skinned. Does that mean he was white, then?
by The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:28 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Tungsten Horde wrote:It's just the only one that can be taken seriously at this point.
It is likely correct, but there is always the chance another skeleton will turn up somewhere else. There's too much we still don't know to be able to say for sure that modern humans were originally all black-skinned. They could have very well been Mediterranean skinned, with darker skinned people emerging from those who remained in Africa, and lighter skinned people emerging from those who left.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:29 pm
by The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:30 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
We are talking about genetics; not about looking at the earliest remains we have
And does genetics prove that early humans were dark-skinned or olive-skinned?
Geographically, the out of Africa theory includes the Middle East in "Africa" - so it is very possible that the first humans were olive-skinned, as Middle Eastern types tend to be.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:31 pm
The Tungsten Horde wrote:Tierra Prime wrote:It is likely correct, but there is always the chance another skeleton will turn up somewhere else. There's too much we still don't know to be able to say for sure that modern humans were originally all black-skinned. They could have very well been Mediterranean skinned, with darker skinned people emerging from those who remained in Africa, and lighter skinned people emerging from those who left.
Well, we have their DNA, and it has been shown that light skin is a mutation, so...
Yeah, you're pretty much wrong.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:32 pm
The Tungsten Horde wrote:Tierra Prime wrote:And does genetics prove that early humans were dark-skinned or olive-skinned?
Geographically, the out of Africa theory includes the Middle East in "Africa" - so it is very possible that the first humans were olive-skinned, as Middle Eastern types tend to be.
No it doesn't.
In fact, the cross from Africa to Yemen is one of the major events in the Out of Africa theory.
by The Alma Mater » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:33 pm
by Dooom35796821595 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:35 pm
The Alma Mater wrote:Yuganesia wrote:I care, I care about the beauty of the white race. Call me a Nazi or racist whatever, but I will not turn my back on my European heritage that I am proud of.
You realise we all started as blacks, right ?
Though I am certain Magneto would understand your "mutant pride"
by The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:36 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Tungsten Horde wrote:Well, we have their DNA, and it has been shown that light skin is a mutation, so...
Yeah, you're pretty much wrong.
Ah yes, but does it prove that dark-skinned people were the norm, or that olive-skinned people didn't exist at the time?
If olive or Mediterranean-skinned people existed at the time, then so did white-skinned people, technically, because olive-skinned people are considered white.
by USS Monitor » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:39 pm
by The Tungsten Horde (Ancient) » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:39 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Tungsten Horde wrote:No it doesn't.
In fact, the cross from Africa to Yemen is one of the major events in the Out of Africa theory.
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html
From an article supporting the Out of Africa theory as the most likely model.
"Homo sapiens arose in one place, probably Africa (geographically this includes the Middle East)."
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:39 pm
The Tungsten Horde wrote:Tierra Prime wrote:Ah yes, but does it prove that dark-skinned people were the norm, or that olive-skinned people didn't exist at the time?
If olive or Mediterranean-skinned people existed at the time, then so did white-skinned people, technically, because olive-skinned people are considered white.
I'm sure there was variation.
Here:
All of these girls belong to the same ethnic group. I don't care if you want to call them black or white.
by Tierra Prime » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:40 pm
The Tungsten Horde wrote:Tierra Prime wrote:
http://www.actionbioscience.org/evolution/johanson.html
From an article supporting the Out of Africa theory as the most likely model.
"Homo sapiens arose in one place, probably Africa (geographically this includes the Middle East)."
Well far be it from me to question "actionbioscience"
by Napkiraly » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:41 pm
Tierra Prime wrote:The Alma Mater wrote:
You realise we all started as blacks, right ?
Though I am certain Magneto would understand your "mutant pride"
We don't know the skin colour of early humans, or really were they started. There are other theories other than the Africa hypothesis.
The earliest known human whose appearance we were able to reconstruct was actually Mediterranean skinned and had bright blue eyes.
by Wallenburg » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:41 pm
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