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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:53 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How? Please enlighten me

Some kind of brain surgery once we learn more about the brain and develop better techniques to operate on it.

Brain surgery? What are you talking about? Why would anyone want to go through that? And what would you be correcting?
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:54 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How? Please enlighten me

Some kind of brain surgery once we learn more about the brain and develop better techniques to operate on it.


Yeah. No.
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Postby Hurdegaryp » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:55 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How? Please enlighten me

Some kind of brain surgery once we learn more about the brain and develop better techniques to operate on it.

The same hypothetical technique might also be used to make religiousness history, since that is also something that's in the brains and might be considered a mental aberration that should be remedied.
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:55 pm

Kraylandia wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:Some kind of brain surgery once we learn more about the brain and develop better techniques to operate on it.


Yeah. No.

It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:58 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Yeah. No.

It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.

Even if it is which i seriously doubt who would want to go though with it?
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.

Even if it is which i seriously doubt who would want to go though with it?

They wouldn't have a choice.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.

Even if it is which i seriously doubt who would want to go though with it?


Consenting adults. We've been through this.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 5:59 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Even if it is which i seriously doubt who would want to go though with it?

They wouldn't have a choice.


Oh alright then. I'm a bisexual, do you want to force me to have brain surgery? :blink:
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:01 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Even if it is which i seriously doubt who would want to go though with it?

They wouldn't have a choice.

So you'd force all gay men (myself included ) and lesbian woman to have brain surgery? And what if I refuse?
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:01 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
Yeah. No.

It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.

Implying that homosexuality is something that needs curing

Implying that this is about progress


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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:07 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Empire of Narnia wrote:It will be possible someday. Probably much more as well.

Implying that homosexuality is something that needs curing

Implying that this is about progress


Suuuuuure

I agree. I love how people always inevitably claim its something that will be cured one day like its illness. The APA has said its not and its simply who someone is.
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:11 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Val Halla wrote:Implying that homosexuality is something that needs curing

Implying that this is about progress


Suuuuuure

I agree. I love how people always inevitably claim its something that will be cured one day like its illness. The APA has said its not and its simply who someone is.


Couldn't agree more, but I think that if someone is a consenting adult with full mental capacity then they can make a decision to do whatever the hell they wish; no matter how stupid we think it is.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:13 pm

Should we ban something that not only doesn't do what its proponents claim it does but also has never caused anyone anything but harm? Gee, I don't know. Is water wet?
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:15 pm

Empire of Narnia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:How? Please enlighten me

Some kind of brain surgery once we learn more about the brain and develop better techniques to operate on it.


And how, precisely, does locking children in cages aid brain surgery research? Be specific.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:22 pm

The Princes of the Universe wrote:Should we ban something that not only doesn't do what its proponents claim it does but also has never caused anyone anything but harm? Gee, I don't know. Is water wet?


Yes and i fail to to see how outlawing conversion therapy becomes an argument about freedom.
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Postby Stonepeak » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:24 pm

Conversion therapy has it's uses, and should be well-funded by the government.
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:25 pm

Stonepeak wrote:Conversion therapy has it's uses, and should be well-funded by the government.


Name one.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:25 pm

Stonepeak wrote:Conversion therapy has it's uses, and should be well-funded by the government.


No, it doesn't.
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Postby Stonepeak » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:26 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Stonepeak wrote:Conversion therapy has it's uses, and should be well-funded by the government.


Name one.


Conversion.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:26 pm

Stonepeak wrote:Conversion therapy has it's uses, and should be well-funded by the government.

Oh, do enlighten! I'm sure this will be informative
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Postby Kraylandia » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:27 pm

Stonepeak wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Name one.


Conversion.


:rofl:
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Postby Salandriagado » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:27 pm

Stonepeak wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Name one.


Conversion.


That's not a use. Name a real use, that's actually beneficial for the recipient, and to the country as a whole.
Cosara wrote:
Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

Vilatania wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

(read up the quote stack)

Deal. £3000 do?[/quote]

Of course.[/quote]
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Postby Stonepeak » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:32 pm

Salandriagado wrote:
Stonepeak wrote:
Conversion.


That's not a use. Name a real use, that's actually beneficial for the recipient, and to the country as a whole.


Mentally stable individuals.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:32 pm

Stonepeak wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
That's not a use. Name a real use, that's actually beneficial for the recipient, and to the country as a whole.


Mentally stable individuals.

What are you talking about? This is getting off topic.
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Postby Val Halla » Sun Dec 13, 2015 6:33 pm

Stonepeak wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
That's not a use. Name a real use, that's actually beneficial for the recipient, and to the country as a whole.


Mentally stable individuals.

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