Logical argument against Islamophobia?

[Kauthar]

Didn't a far-right party hold a gay pride rally in a muslim enclave of Stockholm... that was condemned by the crusaders of tolerance, love and multiculturalism, the al-Stockholmistan Pride?

It never actually happened due to a lack of interest.

there's videos of it so yeah it did happen.

Notice how when reactionaries get the logical arguments they asked for they either ignore or respond only in anecdotes and news headlines. For people that pride themselves on being so cynical and rational it's amazing how much they trust such small samples and unreliable publications (the daily mail? really?).

Unreliable publications are still more reliable than zionist owned mainstream outlets.

and you'd end up fucking up and get stoned lol


I went to London 5 years ago, and I remember we had a private tour guide and we had to go the long ways to get to some places because he warned us not to go to certain areas due to them being run by islamic extremists, that was in 2010 so I can't imagine how shit it is now.

Did he also tell you about the Islamic people cheering as they watched feed of 9/11?

Can't tell if this is sarcasm, no he didn't and if it is sarcasm it was proven that they did cheer while it happened.

[Galloism]

Notice how when reactionaries get the logical arguments they asked for they either ignore or respond only in anecdotes and news headlines. For people that pride themselves on being so cynical and rational it's amazing how much they trust such small samples and unreliable publications (the daily mail? really?).

Unreliable publications are still more reliable than zionist owned mainstream outlets.

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

[Mavorpen]

Can't tell if this is sarcasm, no he didn't and if it is sarcasm it was proven that they did cheer while it happened.

Sure it was, buddy. Sure it was.

[Italios]

Don't forget the same people who argue "terrorism has no religion" are then happy to turn around and blame anything and everything on Christians.

Terrorism has no religion duh just because statistics and events in the last 15 years show that muslims are the most violent and most likely to commit acts of terror means nothing its all because of the christians, the us and israel you racist conservative

"Terrorism has no religion" has nothing to do with how much is in a religion but how it has been done by basically every religion. The KKK was Protestant, they were essentially terrorists....

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Lo and behold, this thread turned into a Trump rally.

Build a wall around it and force the Trumpsters to pay for it!

[Kauthar]

You're never too late, unless you're a white European realising Islam isn't good for Europe, then you realise it as you get stoned by Muslims in the centre of London while another church is razed.

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Did they?

Yes.
http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/21/sweden-democrats-plan-gay-pride-parade-through-muslim-areas-leftists-and-gay-rights-groups-decry-the-parade-as-racist/

So they get called out for provoking them, and you expect people to side with the rightists. Even the link says that gay rights groups didn't like the parade.

[Newzie]

Those quotes about Britain are wildly out of context are the opinions of individuals.
Of course if you asked a BNP supported and a Green supporter the same question, you'd get two different answers.

It is coincidental that these high-crime areas are Muslim. What is not coincidental is that they are populated by poor immigrants with no local roots because, well, they're poor and are immigrants.
The right and their demands to "integrate", which never seems to be about actually integrating and more just a convenient cover term, seems to do nothing but try and prevent these people from integrating.

So...
Self-fulfilling prophecy if all you're going to do is blame Islam rather than confront the actual issues at play.

Oh yes because Islam isn't the problem and the fact that highly islamic areas have crime problems is just a racist nazi conspiracy

once again, please read a book on basic statistics and why cause=/=correlation

[Henri Picard]

1.Complete bullshit
2.Birth rates of immigrants decline to the national average as education levels increase
3.The Nirvana fallacy and the "what if?" Are at work
4.Because those big bad scary non Christians are our mortal enemies,all to typical half witted conservatard arguement
If you are rational then why can you not use the internet's most basic functions?

I love it when people call degrade themselves by calling the followers of their opposite political ideology as retards, makes me warm inside.Im glad I made you warm inside,because of course you attack a word someone said,not their beliefs.

There is no "Logical" argument against Islamophobia when the Quran calls for violence against non-believers, Muslims rape non-Muslim European women en-masse, attack European cities, and migrate en-masse to our countries.

Quran (8:12) - "I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them"

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/10 ... migration/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham ... on_scandal

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2015/11 ... alled-her/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_righ ... udi_Arabia


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Can you please spoiler that image? Also I would like to know where exactly did you get that graph. Since neither Wikipedia nor Breitbart (Who is an opinionated website) confirm your graph.

[Italios]

It never actually happened due to a lack of interest.

there's videos of it so yeah it did happen.

Notice how when reactionaries get the logical arguments they asked for they either ignore or respond only in anecdotes and news headlines. For people that pride themselves on being so cynical and rational it's amazing how much they trust such small samples and unreliable publications (the daily mail? really?).

Unreliable publications are still more reliable than zionist owned mainstream outlets.

Did he also tell you about the Islamic people cheering as they watched feed of 9/11?

Can't tell if this is sarcasm, no he didn't and if it is sarcasm it was proven that they did cheer while it happened.

Wasn't it said those videos were from a different time and place? And that the New Jersey mayor himself Chris Christie said he didn't remember that every happening. you'd think the mayor of the state where it happened would know.

[Galloism]

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

So all the white people should have been exterminated.

Top kek.

[Gauthier]

Unreliable publications are still more reliable than zionist owned mainstream outlets.

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

Even more kektacular is using "zionist" as a synonym for "islamopologist".

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Unreliable publications are still more reliable than zionist owned mainstream outlets.

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

Wait... did they just accuse zionists of having a pro-Muslim bias?

[The Empire of Pretantia]

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

Actually, it was the immigrati9n by Europeans to the US, and it came in a time of urbanization and economic innovation.

[Galloism]

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

Wait... did they just accuse zionists of having a pro-Muslim bias?

Yep.

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

Even more kektacular is using "zionist" as a synonym for "islamopologist".

It's fantastic.

[Italios]

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

Yeah, that was like.... How many centuries ago? Three? And under completely different circumstances. That's not a very good comparison.

You're not very good at predicting the future, sorry.

[Kauthar]

Terrorism has no religion duh just because statistics and events in the last 15 years show that muslims are the most violent and most likely to commit acts of terror means nothing its all because of the christians, the us and israel you racist conservative

"Terrorism has no religion" has nothing to do with how much is in a religion but how it has been done by basically every religion. The KKK was Protestant, they were essentially terrorists....

Protestants aren't real christians, Martin Luther was a heretic.

Yes.
http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/21/sweden-democrats-plan-gay-pride-parade-through-muslim-areas-leftists-and-gay-rights-groups-decry-the-parade-as-racist/

So they get called out for provoking them, and you expect people to side with the rightists. Even the link says that gay rights groups didn't like the parade.

Exactly! The left is fine forcing gay rights parades down high streets when a lot of people disagree with it but when you do it in area that has a large muslim population it's racist.

Terrorism has no religion duh just because statistics and events in the last 15 years show that muslims are the most violent and most likely to commit acts of terror means nothing its all because of the christians, the us and israel you racist conservative

Care to provide those statistics?

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/10/15/poll-81-of-muslims-around-the-world-support-islamic-state-al-jazeera-arabic-poll/

Oh yes because Islam isn't the problem and the fact that highly islamic areas have crime problems is just a racist nazi conspiracy

Proof?

https://muslimstatistics.wordpress.com/2015/03/19/sweden-77-6-percent-of-all-rapes-in-the-country-committed-by-muslim-males-making-up-2-percent-of-population/

[Ifreann]

Lo and behold, this thread turned into a Trump rally.

But you can't say anything about Muslims on NSG. Everyone knows that the mods and the evil liberals suppress all anti-muslim viewpoints.

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Can't we all just take humanist ideas?

Then leftist will start to go "b-b-but mah precious snowflake!!" when presented with facts or are in, i dunno, a civil discussion, the latter in which is evidently a foreign concept to them.

Because the term phobia is defined as "a persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, or situation that leads to a compelling desire to avoid it."

I would say Islamophobia is irrational by definition alone.

Islamo: Islam. Phobia: as you posted the definition, irrational fear.
Islamophobia =/= fear of Islam. Homophobia =/= fear of homosexuals, contrary to how most people present the respective phrases.

Homophobia, Islamophobia. Both are stupid phrases. You're not afraid of anything. You're just an asshole.

Unfortunately, said phrases are usually used by, ahem, certain people to end arguments they are losing at.

Does Homophobia really exist? I've never seen or hear of people actually being scared of gays only being jerks and avoiding them. If no one is actually scared should it still be called a phobia?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/-phobe

The English suffixes -phobia, -phobic, -phobe (of Greek origin: φόβος/φοβία ) occur in technical usage in psychiatry to construct words that describe irrational, disabling fear as a mental disorder (e.g. agoraphobia), in chemistry to describe chemical aversions (e.g. hydrophobic), in biology to describe organisms that dislike certain conditions (e.g. acidophobia), and in medicine to describe hypersensitivity to a stimulus, usually sensory (e.g. photophobia). In common usage they also form words that describe dislike or hatred of a particular thing or subject. The suffix is antonymic to -phil-.

In common usage they also form words that describe dislike or hatred of a particular thing or subject. The suffix is antonymic to -phil-.

In common usage they also form words that describe dislike or hatred of a particular thing or subject.

dislike or hatred of a particular thing or subject.

dislike or hatred

dislike or hatred

dislike or hatred

[Diopolis]

Terrorism has no religion duh just because statistics and events in the last 15 years show that muslims are the most violent and most likely to commit acts of terror means nothing its all because of the christians, the us and israel you racist conservative

"Terrorism has no religion" has nothing to do with how much is in a religion but how it has been done by basically every religion. The KKK was Protestant, they were essentially terrorists....

Essentially? They were(and still are) terrorists. Ever notice how not having any ecclesiastical authorities tends to bring out the terrorism?

[Newzie]

It always amazes me when people can say this without a hint of sarcasm.

Wait... did they just accuse zionists of having a pro-Muslim bias?

I'm now convinced this is either a troll or lunatic. If a troll, I give 7/10. Otherwise, I'd suggest therapy.

[Saiwania]

Don't forget the same people who argue "terrorism has no religion" are then happy to turn around and blame anything and everything on Christians.

Like I said earlier, this is so because Christianity has come to be strongly associated with western civilization in general since the end of the Roman empire and there is nothing more that the left hates than the spiritual bedrock upon which the developed countries have traditionally had. They think that everything wrong in the world can be blamed on us in some way, shape, or form- such as 19th century imperialism. It is our fault that the poorer countries are poor, we are the rotten apple in their eyes. The left's narrative is that we must change our evil ways when none of it is really bad, if anything it is what has made the west superior to the eastern cultures in the first place.

[Bogdanov Vishniac]

Yes.
http://www.blazingcatfur.ca/2015/07/21/sweden-democrats-plan-gay-pride-parade-through-muslim-areas-leftists-and-gay-rights-groups-decry-the-parade-as-racist/

So they get called out for provoking them, and you expect people to side with the rightists. Even the link says that gay rights groups didn't like the parade.

And again, it never actually happened due to a lack of interest on the part of the LGTB people of Stockholm.

[Everhall]

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

KDo you remember the other times we were afraid of immigrants? nothing happened. Remember before that? Nothing happened. There is only one time it happened in American history and we celebrated it a few weeks ago. Also native Americans went down because of:

Guns, Germs, and Steel.

Germs were the most destructive.

[Alvecia]

This does not and will not happen.

You're right it's not happening but it will happen. Remember the last time natives let in millions of immigrants to their homelands? I do! It was the native american genocide!

You have no proof. Of anything.
You have not provided one single piece of evidence that any of the things you say happen actually happen, or that the things you say happen will actually happen.
You "arguments" are void of anything resembling reason.
They have about as much evidence to them as unicorns.

Actually, unicorns probably have more evidence than your arguments.

[Italios]

"Terrorism has no religion" has nothing to do with how much is in a religion but how it has been done by basically every religion. The KKK was Protestant, they were essentially terrorists....

Protestants aren't real christians, Martin Luther was a heretic.

Nice dodge, a Protestant would say otherwise.

Regardless, Protestanism is still some kind of religion. Ever heard of the crusades?