by The Rouge Christmas State » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:15 am
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:49 am
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by We Are Not the NSA » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:50 am
Noting that these attacks or raids on other regions are not illegal, but have been and should be heavily criticized by many nations in the Nationstates. The tactic of raiding defaces a region and leaves a barren region that destroys unique cultures and communities that exist on Nationstates
Appaled that DEN has conducted numerous raids on regions such as but not only:
[*]The invasion and occupation of Catholic in the 2011, leading to the Security Resolution to Liberate the region.
[*]The occupation of Japan by members of the former Black Riders that now are located and raid under the flag of DEN
[*]The invasion of the region of Christmas.
[*]The memorable conquest of the West Pacific, where DEN was the first raiding organization on Nationstates to conquer a GCR.
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The section about TWP is a load of bollocks.
Further Noting that DEN was the destination of many former Black Riders, and continue to carry the same motives as the Black Riders had.
Shocked that these actions haven't deemed DEN worthy of a condemnation, event though the aurtrocities and war they have declared on every region on Nationstates.
Believing that these actions are an aspect of Nationstates that should not be condoned, but rather discouraged. Filling as though these actions are worthy of international scrutiny
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by The Rouge Christmas State » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:54 am
by The Rouge Christmas State » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:59 am
We Are Not the NSA wrote:
I have to say, I do appreciate the fact that you actually listed our raids instead of just saying we raid. Too many people don't provide the specifics IMO. However, you neglect to mention Paradoxia, Power is Rising, Union of Proletarian States, California and St. Abbaddon.Noting that these attacks or raids on other regions are not illegal, but have been and should be heavily criticized by many nations in the Nationstates. The tactic of raiding defaces a region and leaves a barren region that destroys unique cultures and communities that exist on Nationstates
I'd say raiding overall is more of a strategy than a tactic, while tagging and infiltrating are more like tactics.Appaled that DEN has conducted numerous raids on regions such as but not only:
Personal opinion: I'd put "including, but not limited to" instead of "such as but not only".[*]The invasion and occupation of Catholic in the 2011, leading to the Security Resolution to Liberate the region.
... A pre modern era raid... I... SOMEONE DID RESEARCH?! A small amount, yeah, but still, I've never seen someone include a pre modern era raid done by DEN in a condemnation before. Bravo.[*]The occupation of Japan by members of the former Black Riders that now are located and raid under the flag of DEN
Since you mention that DEN more or less equals TBR later on in the proposal, it really isn't necessary here. Japan wasn't even the first raid the new DEN did. I always think people tend to forget the fact that the current incarnation of DEN was born with an ongoing occupation in Atheist Empire. I know it isn't as BA as it sounds, but still a little hyperbole can go a long way in politics.[*]The invasion of the region of Christmas.
[*]The memorable conquest of the West Pacific, where DEN was the first raiding organization on Nationstates to conquer a GCR.
Hmmm... While I appreciate the inclusion of this most amusing event, I'm sure others will not.
EDIT:Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:The section about TWP is a load of bollocks.
Ninja'dFurther Noting that DEN was the destination of many former Black Riders, and continue to carry the same motives as the Black Riders had.
I actually sort of like this draft. It focuses much more on DEN than on TBR, unlike many of its predecessors.Shocked that these actions haven't deemed DEN worthy of a condemnation, event though the aurtrocities and war they have declared on every region on Nationstates.
Typo: "event" should be "even". Spelling: "aurtrocities" should be "atrocities". Also, I wouldn't say DEN has declared war on every region, partially because we have allies, partially because our raids are never personal. Declaring war isn't really necessary when randomly attacking.Believing that these actions are an aspect of Nationstates that should not be condoned, but rather discouraged. Filling as though these actions are worthy of international scrutiny
"these actions" can just be "raiding" (forget the fancy term I learned in English class, but CinemaSins calls it "the pronoun game"). "Filling" should be "Felling".
by We Are Not the NSA » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:10 am
The rouge Christmas state wrote:I got criticized last time I tried for including "useless raids" such as California.
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by The Rouge Christmas State » Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:12 am
We Are Not the NSA wrote:The rouge Christmas state wrote:I got criticized last time I tried for including "useless raids" such as California.
Ah. In your last proposal the only two raids you specifically mentioned were TWP(which barely even counted as a coup) and California (which was not the most impressive raid ever). With the inclusion of the more important stuff, briefly mentioning the less important DEN raids would be acceptable as a compliment to the bigger stuff. IMO the more region specifically mentioned (while remaining valid, so no tag raids), the more voters will fell sympathy for the raidees and more for votes the proposal will receive.
by Knot II » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:07 pm
[12:18 AM] Knot: No worries, I have better kicking rates when there are more defenders.
[12:20 AM] Chingis Otchigin: Knot's hammer is splash damage konfirmed
by The Silver Sentinel » Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:37 pm
by Kaboomlandia » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:00 pm
by We Are Not the NSA » Sun Dec 06, 2015 7:05 pm
The Silver Sentinel wrote::rofl: The West Pacific was far from conquered. That was nothing more than a shittily planned tag raid, which DEN didn't even plan. Try again?
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by Siberian Districts » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:44 am
The Silver Sentinel wrote::rofl: The West Pacific was far from conquered. That was nothing more than a shittily planned tag raid, which DEN didn't even plan. Try again?
by Bhang Bhang Duc » Mon Dec 07, 2015 5:59 am
Siberian Districts wrote:The Silver Sentinel wrote::rofl: The West Pacific was far from conquered. That was nothing more than a shittily planned tag raid, which DEN didn't even plan. Try again?
Except they still had their WFE pasted for all new nations to see for multiple updates. I'm sure that counts for something.
Pierconium wrote:I see Funk as an opportunistic manipulator that utilises the means available to him to reach his goals. In other words, a nation after my own heart.
RiderSyl wrote:If an enchantress made it so one raid could bring about world peace, Unibot would ask raiders to just sign a petition instead.
Sedgistan wrote:The SC has just has a spate of really shitty ones recently from Northumbria, his Watermelon fanboy…..
by We Are Not the NSA » Mon Dec 07, 2015 9:00 am
Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:Siberian Districts wrote:
Except they still had their WFE pasted for all new nations to see for multiple updates. I'm sure that counts for something.
Not really. They got handed the keys by our petulant former delegate and scrambled to hold it for two updates.
I can even remember NSA posting on our RMB that he didn't really know what was happening and that they were making it up as they went along.
And then they got screwed by Cormac.
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by We Are Not the NSA » Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:38 am
Description: Security Council:
Recognizing that the region known as DEN has committed numerous atrocities throughout Nationstates, and will not quit raiding for the foreseeable future
Noting that these attacks or raids on other regions are not illegal, but have been and should be heavily criticized by many nationson Nationstates. The strategy of raiding defaces a region andleaves a barren region thatdestroys unique cultures and communities that exist on Nationstates
Appaled that DEN has conducted numerous raids on regions including:
The invasion and occupation of Catholic in the 2012, leading to the Security Resolution to Liberate the region.
The occupation of Japan
The invasion of the region of Christmas.
The occupation of California
The most recent invasion of St Abbaddon
Further Noting that the modern day DEN wasthe creationformed from the Black Rider occupation of The Atheist Empire,later on attracting many former Black Riders, becoming the defunct organization's new base of operations, from whichwherethey continue to deploy and use the same strategies and tactics that the Black Riders were condemned for
Shocked that these actions haven't deemed DEN worthy of a condemnation, even though the atrocities they have done to many regions on Nationstates.
Believing that these actions are an aspect of Nationstates that should not be condoned, but rather discouraged. Feeling as though these actions are worthy of international scrutiny
Hereby condemns DEN
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by The German Democratic Reich » Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:06 pm
by Cormac Stark » Mon Dec 07, 2015 4:24 pm
by Cresenthia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 11:08 am
The German Democratic Reich wrote:Raiding is not illegal in the WA
by The Silver Sentinel » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:00 pm
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by Cresenthia » Tue Dec 08, 2015 12:16 pm
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