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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:43 am

Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.
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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:44 am

Turan devleti wrote:because they do not have value system


Who not have value system, Atouk?

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:44 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.


Everything? Really?

Dude, somebody offered you an out with the second language thing. You should take it.

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Postby Vonners » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:45 am

Risottia wrote:
Moriskov wrote:
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Turan devleti wrote:because they do not have value system

You say so.

A typical atheist value system, like mine, would be:

1.Hail Statan the State Devil
2.Hail Myself
3.Get me Sex Androids
4.Get me Booze

You might not agree with it, but it's a value system.

Hmmm...... get rid of number 1 and we should be good to go ;)


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Postby Maynarden » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:45 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Maynarden wrote:
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Maynarden wrote:As this link shows, Arkansas had the second highest divorce rate of any state in 2005. Oklahoma had the fourth highest divorce rate. Also notice that every state with more than 5 divorces per 1,000 people in 2005 voted for Bush in 2004. Five out of the six also voted for McCain in 2008. Apparently the more religious are getting divorced at higher rates, despite the fact that the fear of divine retribution strengthens their relationships (I find the notion that we should behave because God will punish us for not doing so objectionable as well, but that is a subjective matter).


Your post is proof that cursory quantitative analysis is not substitute for careful examination of what you think you're responding too.

Consider that a few extra seconds examining what you're rebutting can save you minutes of looking up internet links.


I know, but I thought it would be interesting to point out anyway. Guess I almost put the thread back on track, eh? ;)


No, you just preached to the choir while simultaneously (and needlessly) politicizing it. I can't stop you from doing that, but as the OP I can tell you that's not the actual track of the thread.

Oh, and wink or whatever.


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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:46 am

Ramsetia wrote:You know, it's really sad when people can't see satire.

Half the thread is taking it seriously, the other half is both laughing and bemoaning the sad state of existence where individuals seriously attempt to dismantle a satirical post.

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:46 am

Risottia wrote:
Moriskov wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Turan devleti wrote:because they do not have value system

You say so.

A typical atheist value system, like mine, would be:

1.Hail Statan the State Devil
2.Hail Myself
3.Get me Sex Androids
4.Get me Booze

You might not agree with it, but it's a value system.

Hmmm...... get rid of number 1 and we should be good to go ;)


No way, I just invented him and I'm going to milk him for all it's worth!


I would so love to do a bit on "Statan: Why Communism Is the Tool of the Devil". I could totally find a shit load of hilarious links, like chick pamphlets and all the batshit pages by guys who grew up in the fifties and do pages and pages on how McCarthy was right and Satan is behind "Communism, Homosexuality, and Women's Rights".

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:47 am

Maynarden wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Maynarden wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Maynarden wrote:As this link shows, Arkansas had the second highest divorce rate of any state in 2005. Oklahoma had the fourth highest divorce rate. Also notice that every state with more than 5 divorces per 1,000 people in 2005 voted for Bush in 2004. Five out of the six also voted for McCain in 2008. Apparently the more religious are getting divorced at higher rates, despite the fact that the fear of divine retribution strengthens their relationships (I find the notion that we should behave because God will punish us for not doing so objectionable as well, but that is a subjective matter).


Your post is proof that cursory quantitative analysis is not substitute for careful examination of what you think you're responding too.

Consider that a few extra seconds examining what you're rebutting can save you minutes of looking up internet links.


I know, but I thought it would be interesting to point out anyway. Guess I almost put the thread back on track, eh? ;)


No, you just preached to the choir while simultaneously (and needlessly) politicizing it. I can't stop you from doing that, but as the OP I can tell you that's not the actual track of the thread.

Oh, and wink or whatever.


Oh, don't worry. Politicizing things is something that comes naturally for me.


Well, at least you're in the right place, site-wise.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:47 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.


Everything? Really?

Dude, somebody offered you an out with the second language thing. You should take it.

Oh, and by the way, having a lover that you have to be with for the rest of your life even if you hate him/her is not the way. Divorce should be the final option if all else fails. That, I agree. i don't agree that it should be made illegial. If you married to a person that you don't love, what's the point of staying with him/her?
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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:49 am

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Ramsetia wrote:You know, it's really sad when people can't see satire.

Half the thread is taking it seriously, the other half is both laughing and bemoaning the sad state of existence where individuals seriously attempt to dismantle a satirical post.


For an interesting look at some of what may be behind it, check the link in the OP of Barringtonia's thread with a pretty sweet article on the value of "slow reading". I don't know if I buy all of it (especially the bit about the iPad), but the overall idea isn't completely without merit.

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:51 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.


Everything? Really?

Dude, somebody offered you an out with the second language thing. You should take it.

Oh, and by the way, having a lover that you have to be with for the rest of your life even if you hate him/her is not the way. Divorce should be the final option if all else fails. That, I agree. i don't agree that it should be made illegial. If you married to a person that you don't love, what's the point of staying with him/her?


So...when you "read" the OP, what you got from it...is that you think I'm Christian and that I favor making divorce illegal.

And your Chinese is the crap?

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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:53 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Ramsetia wrote:You know, it's really sad when people can't see satire.

Half the thread is taking it seriously, the other half is both laughing and bemoaning the sad state of existence where individuals seriously attempt to dismantle a satirical post.


For an interesting look at some of what may be behind it, check the link in the OP of Barringtonia's thread with a pretty sweet article on the value of "slow reading". I don't know if I buy all of it (especially the bit about the iPad), but the overall idea isn't completely without merit.

I already saw the thread. Thanks for the heads-up, though. It's interesting enough to merit further reading.

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:53 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.


Everything? Really?

Dude, somebody offered you an out with the second language thing. You should take it.

Oh, and by the way, having a lover that you have to be with for the rest of your life even if you hate him/her is not the way. Divorce should be the final option if all else fails. That, I agree. i don't agree that it should be made illegial. If you married to a person that you don't love, what's the point of staying with him/her?


So...when you "read" the OP, what you got from it...is that you think I'm Christian and that I favor making divorce illegal.

And your Chinese is the crap?

Yes, my Chinese is the language I am bad at. And yes, all evidence from this thread points towards that.
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Postby Vietdien » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:55 am

Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:

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Postby Islamic Hazarastan » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:55 am

This is hilarious.
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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:57 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Sungai Pusat wrote:Yes, I see..... :eyebrow:

You did not say anything that says you were not Christian. Everything there gives support for the fact that you are Christian.


Everything? Really?

Dude, somebody offered you an out with the second language thing. You should take it.

Oh, and by the way, having a lover that you have to be with for the rest of your life even if you hate him/her is not the way. Divorce should be the final option if all else fails. That, I agree. i don't agree that it should be made illegial. If you married to a person that you don't love, what's the point of staying with him/her?


So...when you "read" the OP, what you got from it...is that you think I'm Christian and that I favor making divorce illegal.

And your Chinese is the crap?

Yes, my Chinese is the language I am bad at. And yes, all evidence from this thread points towards that.


No, all evidence pertaining to you in this thread shows that its your English that could use some work.

In Chinese, are there translations for ideas like satire, parody, subtext, and oops?

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Postby Moriskov » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:58 am

Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:58 am

Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Statan.

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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:59 am

Islamic Hazarastan wrote:This is hilarious.


Whyzzat?

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Postby Sungai Pusat » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:01 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Statan.

You are just showing more and more that you are a Christian, sir or mam.
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Postby RepentNowOrPayLater » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:04 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Statan.

You are just showing more and more that you are a Christian, sir or mam.


So, even after I explain explicitly the satire...you still...

Okay, so it isn't the language difference, its you.

Good luck, sir or man.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:04 am

Vonners wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Moriskov wrote:
Risottia wrote:
Turan devleti wrote:because they do not have value system

You say so.

A typical atheist value system, like mine, would be:

1.Hail Statan the State Devil
2.Hail Myself
3.Get me Sex Androids
4.Get me Booze

You might not agree with it, but it's a value system.

Hmmm...... get rid of number 1 and we should be good to go ;)


No way, I just invented him and I'm going to milk him for all it's worth!


Statan milk? Contains all you daily needs for a balanced budget? (yeah ok that was crap...I'm having breakfast and need more coffee dammit!)


Of course. That's how the State, through Statan, provides for your good health.
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Postby Gauntleted Fist » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:04 am

Sungai Pusat wrote:
RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Statan.

You are just showing more and more that you are a Christian, sir or mam.

You are just showing more and more that you have absolutely no concept of what the OP was talking about. None at all. It's actually pretty funny, but also sad.

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Postby Moriskov » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:04 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Satan.

Please use correct spelling if your in a serious conversation.
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Alowwvia wrote:And for every ATGM, there's a guy with a pistol that can kill him for much cheaper.


True. But can the guy with a pistol kill the tank? Only if he's Mattias Nilsson.

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.........[█|||█████WOT PLAYER████]▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▃▂
..__▂▄▅█████████████████████▄▃▂
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Postby Risottia » Thu Jul 15, 2010 2:07 am

RepentNowOrPayLater wrote:
Vietdien wrote:Actually, recent statistics have shown that liberal atheists have stronger, more faithful relationships than conservative religious individuals. :blush:


That's because the statisticians did not use prayerful, faith based mathematical models, and also because of the influence of Statan.


Yes, of course Statan is behind statistics.

Statan messes up with numbers and groups together conservative religious individuals belonging to false religions and worshipping false gods with Real Conservative Religious Individuals belonging to True Religion and worshipping The One True God.
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