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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Nov 30, 2015 4:58 pm

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:
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Other religions aren't relevant here. Resist the urge to derail the thread like you did last time. And if Muhammad killed, raped and enslaved, and he is the best human on Earth, Muslims should follow in his footsteps. Actually, no they shouldn,'t.


Here is the thing there isn't much historical evidence for what Muhammad actually did contrary to those who like to masturbate to the image of some "pedophile warlord in the dark ages". Of course it doesn't help when Historians no longer acknowledge that the Dark Ages were actual history, but rather a myth created by certain people from the Enlightenment era.


for real? when was this a thing?
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Postby Valystria » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:00 pm

All religious schools should be banned.

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Postby Luziyca » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:02 pm

Herrebrugh wrote:I'd prefer there to be no religious schools at all, but if Christian (pre-)schools are allowed, then Islamic ones should be as well.

This. Religious schools are not great, but if we allow them, then don't use taxpayer money to fund them.
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:04 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:I'd prefer there to be no religious schools at all, but if Christian (pre-)schools are allowed, then Islamic ones should be as well.

This. Religious schools are not great, but if we allow them, then don't use taxpayer money to fund them.


I double this. :p
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Postby Geilinor » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:07 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:
Here is the thing there isn't much historical evidence for what Muhammad actually did contrary to those who like to masturbate to the image of some "pedophile warlord in the dark ages". Of course it doesn't help when Historians no longer acknowledge that the Dark Ages were actual history, but rather a myth created by certain people from the Enlightenment era.


for real? when was this a thing?

That's we call them medieval times or the Middle Ages now.
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for real? when was this a thing?

That's we call them medieval times or the Middle Ages now.


Well this whole time I thought they were used interchangeably. I don't know the dark ages were completely disregared
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Postby The Wolven League » Mon Nov 30, 2015 5:55 pm

Fanosolia wrote:
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Here is the thing there isn't much historical evidence for what Muhammad actually did contrary to those who like to masturbate to the image of some "pedophile warlord in the dark ages". Of course it doesn't help when Historians no longer acknowledge that the Dark Ages were actual history, but rather a myth created by certain people from the Enlightenment era.


for real? when was this a thing?

"Dark Ages" have been considered an archaic and inaccurate term for a while now.

But I'd say you could easily call Europe during the Early Middle Ages (476-1066 CE) "Dark Ages". Invasions, stagnation of culture, and Vikings, oh my!
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Postby Unnamed island state » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:18 pm

Everyone should be able to send their children to religious schools, as long as these schools do not express extremist views. :)
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Postby Fanosolia » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:19 pm

Unnamed island state wrote:Everyone should be able to send their children to religious schools, as long as these schools do not express extremist views. :)

You'd think having non radical religious schools is a first priority.

Here here anyways though. So long as they're privately owned.
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Postby Vektra » Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:30 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:
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So your only example is a country we invaded and imposed a liberal democracy on?

School in Egypt
Nursery in Algeria

And most Muslim countries allow churches, so im sure there are schools there as well. I think there are quite a few of them in Azerbaijan from what i remember reading a while back.


In Morocco is legal build a church, but is illegal to try to christianize an islamic believer.

Wow, they're so tolerant and liberal :roll:

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As far as I know private schools in Sweden always operate thanks due to state funding. Education is universally free.
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Islam is not compatible with democracy because it is an ideology of its own. Europe is being submitted to forced mass muslim immigration despite negative public opinion on the issue. These islamic school do not teach tolerance and are out of phase with libertarian ideas. The situation in Sweden is alarming, anyone who speaks out against the governments irresponsible immigration policy is tagged a nazi by state controled leftish media. Sweden has become the rape capital of Europe, second only to South Africa on the world scene. One swedish woman out of four will be statistically raped in her life. 98 percent of these rapes are commited by muslim immigrants on white women. Young working Swedes cannot move out of their parent's homes because of the housing shortage caused by the government providing free lodging for all the muslims they forced in. The Swedish social-democrat government is importing 80,000 migrants per month in a country that counts around 7,5 million Swedes. All this is organised by converted traitors such as minister Mohna Salin. Sweden is on the road to be the first European country to fall to muslim barbarism. Please do not just believe me, check the facts.

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Postby Kubra » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:30 am

The Hobbesian Metaphysician wrote:
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Other religions aren't relevant here. Resist the urge to derail the thread like you did last time. And if Muhammad killed, raped and enslaved, and he is the best human on Earth, Muslims should follow in his footsteps. Actually, no they shouldn,'t.


Here is the thing there isn't much historical evidence for what Muhammad actually did contrary to those who like to masturbate to the image of some "pedophile warlord in the dark ages". Of course it doesn't help when Historians no longer acknowledge that the Dark Ages were actual history, but rather a myth created by certain people from the Enlightenment era.
Do you mean that they say that the events did not occur, or that "dark ages" as a historiographic term is non-applicable?
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Kaitjan wrote:As far as I know private schools in Sweden always operate thanks due to state funding. Education is universally free.

How is that private then?
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:33 am

Alyakia wrote:if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century


I'm against all religious schools.
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Postby Bill Cosby Island » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:34 am

Royal Denmark wrote: Maybe a few hundred might convert, you never know.

Or a few million might enter and outbreed them.
And hey, once they breed, you need a preschool free of native influence to put the toddlers in, right?

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Postby Bill Cosby Island » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:35 am

Kraylandia wrote:
Alyakia wrote:if you're against islamic pre-schools i hope you're against all religious pre-schools, otherwise you're either 1) inconsistent 2) a bit too mid-20th century


I'm against all religious schools.

What if it's a school run by the Catholic church that doesn't really do anything very catholic except for banal religion classes?
Eh, you'd probably oppose that for the last bit though.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:36 am

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Royal Denmark wrote: Maybe a few hundred might convert, you never know.

Or a few million might enter and outbreed them.
And hey, once they breed, you need a preschool free of native influence to put the toddlers in, right?

You make these human beings who dare to have different beliefs sound like pests. Where did I see that before...
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Bill Cosby Island wrote:
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I'm against all religious schools.

What if it's a school run by the Catholic church that doesn't really do anything very catholic except for banal religion classes?
Eh, you'd probably oppose that for the last bit though.

It's the principal. We can't let some schools go because they aren't yea religious
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:39 am

Bill Cosby Island wrote:
Kraylandia wrote:
I'm against all religious schools.

What if it's a school run by the Catholic church that doesn't really do anything very catholic except for banal religion classes?
Eh, you'd probably oppose that for the last bit though.


Doesn't matter, it's the principle. Still religious, it has to go.
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Postby Kilobugya » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:39 am

I would just ban all religious schools (pre-university at least, vocational training to be priest and such should be an option for those who want it). Children are too easily influenced and manipulated.
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:39 am

Kaitjan wrote:As far as I know private schools in Sweden always operate thanks due to state funding. Education is universally free.


Not exactly private, but alright.
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Postby Kilobugya » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:42 am

Bill Cosby Island wrote:What if it's a school run by the Catholic church that doesn't really do anything very catholic


If the school is runned by the catholic church, it'll very likely be biased by catholic doctrine on many things, from the way it'll teach about the Crusades and the Inquisition in history class, to the way it'll teach sexual education in biology class.

Bill Cosby Island wrote:except for banal religion classes?


Even that is a problem. There should be no "religion classes". Religions should only be studied at school as part of history or geography, and all religions (ancient ones like modern ones) be treated the same way : the core belief and practices of the believers should be stated "they believe that ..." and the effects of the religion on history and geopolitics be studied, but nothing more.
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Postby Kraylandia » Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:43 am

Kilobugya wrote:I would just ban all religious schools (pre-university at least, vocational training to be priest and such should be an option for those who want it). Children are too easily influenced and manipulated.


Couldn't agree more.
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