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by Val Halla » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:48 am
by Hirota » Wed Oct 21, 2015 2:57 am
This is fallacious reasoning. It's reasonable to accept that most of the "1%" happen to be men, but just because the 1% happen to be mainly men fails to consider that the vast majority of men are equally disadvantaged as the vast majority of women. It fails to consider that men are more likely to be homeless, for example.I explained to her, but she was something like "well, men lead the society so MRM is BS...
This is also fallacious reasoning. It's true that women are abused globally, but that fails to recognise men are also abused around the world. It also fails to recognise that what may well hold true in disadvantaged areas such as Africa and Asia, does not neccessarily hold true in the west.Feminists is like totally needed because women are abused all around the world".
by Ostroeuropa » Wed Oct 21, 2015 3:47 am
Teachers are more lenient in their marking of girls' schoolwork, according to an international study.
An OECD report on gender in education, across more than 60 countries, found that girls receive higher marks compared with boys of the same ability.
Researchers suggest girls are better behaved in class and this influences how teachers perceive their work.
by Haktiva » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:19 am
by Hirota » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:13 am
But women never lie right ?
by New Kylifornia » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:56 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:New Grestin wrote:I think the problem was that, at least in the Western world, feminism doesn't really have a lot else to fight. Women are pretty damned equal to men in most places and in the places they aren't, that's probably going to change eventually.
But, without a monster to slay, a movement loses steam and dies, and since Feminism can't lose steam, you get the idea that men control everything.
At least, that's the only way I've been able to rationalize it.
It's a totalizing ideology. Symptomatic of religions and cults.
This is why feminists blame things on patriarchy that other feminists have caused. Everything is proof of their delusional worldview.
by Haktiva » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:23 am
Hirota wrote:But women never lie right ?
(In fairness, I think it's fair to say most allegations are not found to be outright fabrications, and of course it horrific for survivors of rape - but apparently pointing out the fact that women do lie occassionally, and it does inevitabily cause some skeptism of genuine allegations makes me a rape apologist according to at least one dribbling lunatic.)
by Ostroeuropa » Thu Oct 22, 2015 4:39 am
by Valystria » Thu Oct 22, 2015 7:24 pm
New Kylifornia wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's a totalizing ideology. Symptomatic of religions and cults.
This is why feminists blame things on patriarchy that other feminists have caused. Everything is proof of their delusional worldview.
I'm struck by the similarity between feminism and certain strains of conservative Christianity.
by Ostroeuropa » Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:30 pm
by Hirota » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:06 am
Useful resource, I've added that to the first page Links.Ostroeuropa wrote:https://notehub.org/hpp2i
A wonderful booklet containing much of what you need to know to be an MRA.
by Nioya » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:25 am
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 7:56 am
Nioya wrote:what are some mens right issues i should address in my factbook?
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:10 am
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:12 am
by Nioya » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:23 am
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:27 am
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:39 am
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 9:42 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Nioya wrote:
Would you eliminate alimony?
I'd limit alimony. One year only and such.
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/ont ... ircumcised
By the way.
by New Benian Republic » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:29 am
Haktiva wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I'd limit alimony. One year only and such.
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/ont ... ircumcised
By the way.
even amongst the Jewish community, circumcision is being called into question. Old traditions may have served a purpose way back when(personal hygiene not being known, short lifespans, general stupidity), but nowadays people don't think it's entirely necessary.
Personally I think Rabbis are a bit more careful and do a better job, but maybe that's because my Bris never bothered me. Don't advocate for gentiles to be circumcised, nor anyone, however.
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:39 am
New Benian Republic wrote:Haktiva wrote:even amongst the Jewish community, circumcision is being called into question. Old traditions may have served a purpose way back when(personal hygiene not being known, short lifespans, general stupidity), but nowadays people don't think it's entirely necessary.
Personally I think Rabbis are a bit more careful and do a better job, but maybe that's because my Bris never bothered me. Don't advocate for gentiles to be circumcised, nor anyone, however.
It's mutilation so yeah.
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:34 am
Haktiva wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
I'd limit alimony. One year only and such.
http://news.nationalpost.com/health/ont ... ircumcised
By the way.
even amongst the Jewish community, circumcision is being called into question. Old traditions may have served a purpose way back when(personal hygiene not being known, short lifespans, general stupidity), but nowadays people don't think it's entirely necessary.
Personally I think Rabbis are a bit more careful and do a better job, but maybe that's because my Bris never bothered me. Don't advocate for gentiles to be circumcised, nor anyone, however.
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:42 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Haktiva wrote:even amongst the Jewish community, circumcision is being called into question. Old traditions may have served a purpose way back when(personal hygiene not being known, short lifespans, general stupidity), but nowadays people don't think it's entirely necessary.
Personally I think Rabbis are a bit more careful and do a better job, but maybe that's because my Bris never bothered me. Don't advocate for gentiles to be circumcised, nor anyone, however.
Didn't know you were Jewish. Any unique perspectives on mens issues?
by Ostroeuropa » Mon Oct 26, 2015 11:43 am
Haktiva wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Didn't know you were Jewish. Any unique perspectives on mens issues?
can't give much aside from anecdotes, even then I'm not very religious and basically a borderline Atheist. However, growing up and just looking around, the relations between men and women are pretty stereotypical, which kinda pisses me off. I can get more specific if you ask the right questions, just don't have the time for a whole bunch of nonsensical bullet points right now.
by Haktiva » Mon Oct 26, 2015 5:12 pm
Ostroeuropa wrote:Haktiva wrote:can't give much aside from anecdotes, even then I'm not very religious and basically a borderline Atheist. However, growing up and just looking around, the relations between men and women are pretty stereotypical, which kinda pisses me off. I can get more specific if you ask the right questions, just don't have the time for a whole bunch of nonsensical bullet points right now.
Ahh. Yeh, same in my area.
Lots of tradcon relationships. Fuck that.
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