The Black Hawks | Still Winning

[Consular]

So much for Regional Officers being effective and making it impossible for liberations to succeed. >_>

I've got 17 defender updaters banjected before update. Great effort by all RO's.

With this many sleepers, this many jumpers, and this tight of a trigger ... this should have been easier

I'm getting a feeling the RO feature made it at least harder.

Unfortunately activity born from opposition to something is kinda fragile and doesn't last. It more serves your amusement than any long term benefit to their region.

I'm not sure this is true. I mean, you can say activity born from anything "doesn't last" because rarely does any region or org go without any inactive periods. But activity born from opposition did quite well for the ADN for years, and more recently TNI's and LKE's opposition to the FRA and UDL...

To be frank I'm not sure the siege mentality of TNI and the LKE was beneficial. I know Cerebella has been quite critical of basing a region's activity and unity on such, and he was actively involved in both places.

But I was talking more about small UCRs. The activity from raids doesn't last much longer than the raid.

Activity born from an internal desire to better the community is much more productive and lasts longer I think.

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

As can be seen from RMB posts, the short term activity created by invasion also brings with it a loss of willingness to trust new members. My own region, The North Pacific, experienced this quite severely following the UPS Rail and Great Bight invasions of 2004. The prevalent paranoia about outside forces helped lead to suspicion of and clashes with our then-allies and ultimately the Pixiedance wars of the first half of 2005. The North Pacific eventually grew out of these scars, but it has never been quite the same open and inclusive (much less informal) community. There is a cost to invasions, even when repelled.

[Cormac Stark]

Activity born from an internal desire to better the community is much more productive and lasts longer I think.

That is probably true. Maybe Asia will see that kind of activity as well now though; conflict sometimes brings a community together, and sometimes that lasts long after the conflict is over. I don't think anyone can really predict the effect any given raid will have on any given community, but I do think it's safe to say the effects are not always negative.

Congratulations again to TBH -- it was a fun raid, so congrats are still deserved -- as well as to defenders on a successful operation.

[Luckies]

A fun raid indeed.

[Tim-Opolis]

Good stuff, happy to participate. Congratulations to Asia on its once again found freedom. Nice that our run out didn't end up just being a failed "guinea pig" test for Administration, and hopefully they'll realize that regardless of success, which was very evidently due to a fantastically coordinated sleeper effort, 18 nations banned within the span of 10 seconds by about three nations is not a sustainable way to continue R/D. Afterall, they banned the sharing of raider point nations at update due to allegedly at least some claims of imbalance, seems odd that they added the mechanic back in with even more strength.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Good stuff, happy to participate. Congratulations to Asia on its once again found freedom. Nice that our run out didn't end up just being a failed "guinea pig" test for Administration, and hopefully they'll realize that regardless of success, which was very evidently due to a fantastically coordinated sleeper effort, 18 nations banned within the span of 10 seconds by about three nations is not a sustainable way to continue R/D. Afterall, they banned the sharing of raider point nations at update due to allegedly at least some claims of imbalance, seems odd that they added the mechanic back in with even more strength.

While clashing, Ivo averaged about 1 ejection a second. In some bursts, he averages between 1.5 and 2 ejections a second. Taking the middle number and extrapolating to ten seconds, he might have gotten as many as 15 solo. Don't think 18's really a massive change.

[Kazmr]

Happy to have helped as a sleeper

But seriously, this still goes to show that BC is incredibly broken. For how tight a trigger was used 18 ejections is an insane number. No way with how many defenders jumped on time this should have been as close as it is. And thats neglecting the fact that, had they wished, raiders could have appointed one, two, three, hell, eight or nine more people to eject.

[Onderkelkia]

The end of the invasion is a most unfortunate outcome, but The Black Hawks fought the battle very well.

The operation confirms that it is more than possible to 'liberate' within the set-up of regional officers.

I'm not sure this is true. I mean, you can say activity born from anything "doesn't last" because rarely does any region or org go without any inactive periods. But activity born from opposition did quite well for the ADN for years, and more recently TNI's and LKE's opposition to the FRA and UDL...

To be frank I'm not sure the siege mentality of TNI and the LKE was beneficial. I know Cerebella has been quite critical of basing a region's activity and unity on such, and he was actively involved in both places.

But I was talking more about small UCRs. The activity from raids doesn't last much longer than the raid.

Activity born from an internal desire to better the community is much more productive and lasts longer I think.

This caricature is misleading. In neither the LKE nor TNI has foreign policy ever been the main basis for domestic activity or the source of regional unity.

LKE and TNI members have historically supported regional foreign policy because of their commitment to their region, not the other way round.

[Drop Your Pants]

I didn't even apply any of my sleepers but i'm still saying i helped by lurking

[Benevolent Thomas]

I didn't even apply any of my sleepers but i'm still saying i helped by lurking

I lost a sleeper I planted over a year ago That's what happens when you're too lazy to log into it weekly though.

[Drop Your Pants]

That's what happens when you're too lazy to log into it weekly though.

Vacation mode is your friend

[Benevolent Thomas]

That's what happens when you're too lazy to log into it weekly though.

Vacation mode is your friend

It was vacation mode. That's the problem. You can't grow influence unless you log in weekly

[The Silver Sentinel]

Vacation mode is your friend

It was vacation mode. That's the problem. You can't grow influence unless you log in weekly

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[Space InRaiders and AstaRaids]

BREAKING: WORST RAID IN GALAXY SOMEHOW SUCCEEDS!

DATE: 10/23/4015
SUBJ: THE UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS
REPORT SOURCE: TBHS SOULS

LAST MAJOR CYCLE, THE BLACK HAWKS' SHIP SOULS, LEADING A TBH ARMADA AND AN ALLIED FLEET WAS ON AN APPROACH VECTOR TO JOIN ADVANCED FORCE ASTARAIDS (AKA WSE - WORST SLEEPER EVER, WITH IT'S NATURE PAINTED ON IT'S HULL TWICE AND A BROADCASTED MOTTO STATING IT'S INTENTIONS), PREVIOUSLY ALLOWED INTO THE SECTOR CONTROLLED BY THE UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS. ON THE ATTACK APPROACH, HOWEVER, A FATAL ERROR IN CALCULATIONS RESULTED IN AN OVERSHOOT BY WELL OVER ONE PARSEC, AND THE DESTRUCTION OF THE ENTIRE ARMADA, EXCUSING ADVANCED FORCE ASTARAIDS (IN FULL ATTACK MODE WITHOUT REINFORCEMENTS) AND ONE ALLIED SHIP WHO'S OWN NAVIGATION WAS SO FAR OFF IT WAS ACTUALLY ON TARGET. NOTING, HOWEVER, THE FACT THAT THE COORDINATES NEEDED TO ENTER THE UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS WERE STILL SOMEWHAT A SECRET, ADVANCE FORCE ASTARAIDS CALLED ON FURTHER REINFORCEMENTS - WHO ARRIVED SPORADICALLY, ALSO BLARING THEIR INTENTIONS OF HARM. APPROXIMATELY FIVE HOURS BEFORE THE MINOR CYCLE, NATIVE POLICE FORCES WERE OBSERVED IN FULL ACTION, AND ADVANCED FORCE ASTARAIDS PREPARED FOR EMERGENCY EVACUATION PROCEDURES - YET THE POLICE FORE INSTEAD MADE PUBLIC THE COORDINATES AND RETURNED TO THEIR BASE WITHOUT FIRING ON OUR FORCES. SHOCKED AT THIS TURN, WE THEN EXPECTED INTERGALACTIC DEFENSE FORCES TO APPEAR AT THIS SECTOR TO CRUSH THE NOW-DEFENSELESS INVADER FLEET, SITTING THERE AWAITING MINOR CYCLE IN ONLY MINOR NUMBERS - YET NOT ONE CRUISER SHOWED. MARVELING AT THE CIRCUMSTANCES, THE TBHS SOULS HAS NOW SEIZED POWER IN THE UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS, TO THE ASTOUNDING SHOCK OF NATIVE RESIDENTS, WHO HAVE SINCE MADE EVERY MOVE TO ABANDON THEIR SECTOR ENTIRELY. SURELY, RAIDERON SMILES ON US TODAY, EVEN IN OUR OWN ABJECT FAILURES. ALSO, PLEASE FORWARD APOLOGIES TO THE KGB FOR WRECKING THEIR FLEET. REPORT END.

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TBH has shockingly somehow managed to raid The United Federation of Planets with sleeper Space InRaiders and AstaRaids (with a motto of " Hide yo passwords hide yo delegacies" somehow going undetected both at entry and since), by missing update by a full minute then piling about half a dozen people (with obviously raider names and flags) in over the next 12 hours, during which the native delegate removed the password he'd set and no defenders showed up. I'm not even sure how this happened. This has literally been my worst raid since I was in TEK. But it worked. So.... yeah. LWU, does this beat your worst raid ever, or nah?

Thanks and apologies to KGB for like, keeping you up for a total failure that provided little good experience. Seriously my bad.

Please don't congratulate me, this is nothing to be proud of xD

[The Silver Sentinel]

Unfrickingbeleivable. It really is a shame that a region with such a great name couldn't even be bothered to protect itself, unless the native delegate was also a sleeper? Either way congrats I guess for having the football go off someones head, get fumbled twice and yet you somehow managed to score the touchdown (or something like that anyway ).

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Please don't congratulate me, this is nothing to be proud of xD

[Cora II]

I love when raiders go to space and write stuff about it. Nice.

[Luckies]

I love when raiders go to space and write stuff about it. Nice.

Aye, it is.

[Riftey]

"Behold, the Great Prophet of the Black Hawks come in peace!"

Original Prophet. Now it's mainstream. Gah.

[Bankai Kurosaki]

So.... yeah. LWU, does this beat your worst raid ever, or nah?

It is certainly a certified Failtacular, but The Worst Raid Ever endured for something like two weeks of nonstop Defendertrash idiocy, if I recall correctly. Have similar events that last that long, and then you'll be in the running.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Natives have tried to take it back a few times, with help from the Galactic Federacy and a few others. They were summarily ejected....after an update or so. No sign of any organized defender attempts at unseating my tiny little endo-count. Guess some RP region just isn't as important as Asia, eh?

[Mad-eye Jack]

Natives have tried to take it back a few times, with help from the Galactic Federacy and a few others. They were summarily ejected....after an update or so. No sign of any organized defender attempts at unseating my tiny little endo-count. Guess some RP region just isn't as important as Asia, eh?

Sure is nice to be able to pick and choose when you want to be active isn't it? And get out of here with this RP region not important enough nonsense. Paradoxia was a large continual liberation effort for an RP region. It wasn't the first and it won't be the last.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Natives have tried to take it back a few times, with help from the Galactic Federacy and a few others. They were summarily ejected....after an update or so. No sign of any organized defender attempts at unseating my tiny little endo-count. Guess some RP region just isn't as important as Asia, eh?

Sure is nice to be able to pick and choose when you want to be active isn't it? And get out of here with this RP region not important enough nonsense. Paradoxia was a large continual liberation effort for an RP region. It wasn't the first and it won't be the last.

It's been five days, and for one of them, there was a six-endo native sitting there And the point there was that it's a tiny barely active region, most of whose interested parties are in another region or fled to it already- they're not making a bunch of noise, and they don;t have a famous name.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Unofficial TBH report -

If I go missing, call the BoS, not the police. Natives rejoice, raids will be on Deathclaws and whatever faction I like least in the near future. Will build my own "native" towns and defend them myself. As if NS wasn't enough of a timesink

[Bradsforth]

You guys don't harm roleplay regions rite?