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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 7:28 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Tbh the real problem is that whenever something flies by my head its go time so I like to use unfair advantages.

Suppressing fire? You bet.
Flanking manuvers? Fuck yeah.


Admittedly I've only spent three hours or so playing paintball, but I found that those more experienced with the game tended to do these anyway (also me because I occasionally pay attention in this thread), and I'm actually surprised that paintball grenades and maneuver and cover elements count as unfair advantages.


People assume because they loose I must be cheating

Totally has nothing to do with the NCO badge :<
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Postby Aqizithiuda » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:09 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Aqizithiuda wrote:
Admittedly I've only spent three hours or so playing paintball, but I found that those more experienced with the game tended to do these anyway (also me because I occasionally pay attention in this thread), and I'm actually surprised that paintball grenades and maneuver and cover elements count as unfair advantages.


People assume because they loose I must be cheating


Sounds like most sports tbh.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:14 pm

Aqizithiuda wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Tbh the real problem is that whenever something flies by my head its go time so I like to use unfair advantages.

Suppressing fire? You bet.
Flanking manuvers? Fuck yeah.


Admittedly I've only spent three hours or so playing paintball, but I found that those more experienced with the game tended to do these anyway (also me because I occasionally pay attention in this thread), and I'm actually surprised that paintball grenades and maneuver and cover elements count as unfair advantages.


Field rules and local practice vary so much it's almost hilarious. It also depends who turns out on a given day. I've been out airsofting on days when it's just the old crew and everyone functions like a well-oiled machine, while on others it's like the bus to summer camp showed up and it's kiddie hour. Lots of kids with really expensive guns their parents bought for them bundled up with enough layers to stop an actual bullet, who don't call their hits but will keep lighting you up well after you've called your own.

Rules can change style of play too. FPS caps, whether running is allowed, full vs. semi-auto, etc.
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:34 pm

tbh the only reason ive ever wanted to do airsoft is those gigantic matches with huge teams in huge areas.

War is weird.
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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Oct 21, 2015 8:38 pm

Puzikas wrote:tbh the only reason ive ever wanted to do airsoft is those gigantic matches with huge teams in huge areas.

War is weird.


I'd love to go to one of those giant games, since the fields in Hawaii are all really small, and airsoft doesn't seem to be too popular in this part of the east coast.
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Postby Alimeria- » Wed Oct 21, 2015 9:20 pm

Totally not a tag
Image Green Norse-based tunic, Stahlhelm/pickelhaube/roman helmet hybrid, WWI German Machine Gunner's armor, belt with pouches and sword bayonet and stuff, and boots based on hunting boots


Image Snikmorder Líkan 1915, 8.5x63mm

Image Sigrún Shipkiller, Undecided Caliber

Image Stígander Vélkarabin and Vélgevär, 8.5x63

Image Sigrún-Björnsson Þungur Vélgevär

Image Arnbjörg Líkan 1912, Undecided 11mm cartridge
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Steampunk Norsemen using bullpup rifles ftw

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:00 pm

The Akasha Colony wrote:
Puzikas wrote:tbh the only reason ive ever wanted to do airsoft is those gigantic matches with huge teams in huge areas.

War is weird.


I'd love to go to one of those giant games, since the fields in Hawaii are all really small, and airsoft doesn't seem to be too popular in this part of the east coast.


Not in New England are you?

Because baring Maine, we are the worst for fun.



Sieuxerrian and Dnieguan MAS Mle. 64/AvK m/64Sr

Originally designed and produced in Sieuxerr in the early 1960s, the MAS Mle. 64 entered service with Dnieguan expeditionary forces as their role in supporting Sieuxerrian forces in Kolenomai grew. Receiving the designation AvK m/64sr, the AvK filled the roll of the previous Ksp m/21-39. The light weight of 6.4 kilograms loaded with a 60 round aluminum magazine provided increased firepower at even lower mass than the KsP, which tipped the scale at 8.45kg with a 30 round magazine. The rifle supplemented a single squad AvG-3 in addition, transforming individual squads to five AvG-3 rifles, a signle KsP-58, and two AvK m/64sr rifles. While lacking the same range and power of 6.5x55mm, the 5.65mm cartridge proved to be capable of reaching to 600m reliably while producing less recoil and being 40% lighter.

The standard load of a gunner was 8+1 60 round magazines loaded with five 72 grain full metal jacket projectiles and a single 40m delayed orange tracer in sequence, chargers were supplied in 12 round batteries. the versions pictured here come from the Dnieguan 62nd Volunteer Expeditionary Rifle brigade, 3rd Reconnisance Squadron, F Troop (top) and the Sieuxerrian 13e RDP (bottom). To emulate their Sieuxerrian allies, Dnieguan troops painted the term "Area forbidden" on their rifle in Cyrillic-derived Sieuxerrian as a reminder to issue a warning before firing; other common phrases included Couchez-vous, Putain, and arrêt.
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Postby Vancon » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:02 pm

For those who aren't french,

Go to sleep, Whore, Stop
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Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Alimeria- » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:06 pm

Vancon wrote:For those who aren't french,

Go to sleep, Whore, Stop

I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour
Steampunk Norsemen using bullpup rifles ftw

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:10 pm

Vancon wrote:For those who aren't french,

Go to sleep, Whore, Stop


Dual meaning in Forgspeak and also in my language, which is funny.

In french,it means "Lay down" and "Go to sleep".

In Dnieguan, the direct translation would be "Go to Sleep", but the term also means "Sleep forever" (splova ikusegevti, "Lay to rest" "sleep Forever", die.)

We're a dark group here.
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Postby Husseinarti » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:12 pm

Puzikas wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
I'd love to go to one of those giant games, since the fields in Hawaii are all really small, and airsoft doesn't seem to be too popular in this part of the east coast.


Not in New England are you?

Because baring Maine, we are the worst for fun.



Sieuxerrian and Dnieguan MAS Mle. 64/AvK m/64Sr

Originally designed and produced in Sieuxerr in the early 1960s, the MAS Mle. 64 entered service with Dnieguan expeditionary forces as their role in supporting Sieuxerrian forces in Kolenomai grew. Receiving the designation AvK m/64sr, the AvK filled the roll of the previous Ksp m/21-39. The light weight of 6.4 kilograms loaded with a 60 round aluminum magazine provided increased firepower at even lower mass than the KsP, which tipped the scale at 8.45kg with a 30 round magazine. The rifle supplemented a single squad AvG-3 in addition, transforming individual squads to five AvG-3 rifles, a signle KsP-58, and two AvK m/64sr rifles. While lacking the same range and power of 6.5x55mm, the 5.65mm cartridge proved to be capable of reaching to 600m reliably while producing less recoil and being 40% lighter.

The standard load of a gunner was 8+1 60 round magazines loaded with five 72 grain full metal jacket projectiles and a single 40m delayed orange tracer in sequence, chargers were supplied in 12 round batteries. the versions pictured here come from the Dnieguan 62nd Volunteer Expeditionary Rifle brigade, 3rd Reconnisance Squadron, F Troop (top) and the Sieuxerrian 13e RDP (bottom). To emulate their Sieuxerrian allies, Dnieguan troops painted the term "Area forbidden" on their rifle in Cyrillic-derived Sieuxerrian as a reminder to issue a warning before firing; other common phrases included Couchez-vous, Putain, and arrêt.


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Postby Vancon » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Vancon wrote:For those who aren't french,

Go to sleep, Whore, Stop


Dual meaning in Forgspeak and also in my language, which is funny.

In french,it means "Lay down" and "Go to sleep".

In Dnieguan, the direct translation would be "Go to Sleep", but the term also means "Sleep forever" (splova ikusegevti, "Lay to rest" "sleep Forever", die.)

We're a dark group here.

More edgy then a car from the apocalypse.

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Vancon wrote:For those who aren't french,

Go to sleep, Whore, Stop

I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

Into the sig you go.
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:16 pm

Vancon wrote:More edgy then a car from the apocalypse.


E) activate milk.

I didnt even make it go that way tbh. I just kind of mashed all the languages I know together and went "Alright thats a language now"
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Postby Vancon » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:16 pm

Puzikas wrote:
Vancon wrote:More edgy then a car from the apocalypse.


E) activate milk.

I didnt even make it go that way tbh. I just kind of mashed all the languages I know together and went "Alright thats a language now"

French, Eng, some kind of russian, what else?
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The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:20 pm

Its actually Swedish, Chechen, Russian, Uralic and OCS.
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Postby Vancon » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:21 pm

Puzikas wrote:Its actually Swedish, Chechen, Russian, Uralic and OCS.

OCS?

The answer better be Original Commie Spanish.
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Mike the Progressive wrote:You know I don't say this often, but this guy... he gets it. Like everything. As in he gets life.

Imperializt Russia wrote:
The balkens wrote:Please tell me that condoms and Hazelnut spread are NOT on the same table.

Well what the fuck do you use for lube?

Krazakistan wrote:How have you not died after being exposed to that much shit on a monthly basis?
Rupudska wrote:I avoid NSG like one would avoid ISIS-occupied Syria.
Alimeria- wrote:I'll go to sleep when I want to, not when some cheese-eating surrender monkey tells me to.

Which just so happens to be within the next half-hour

Shyluz wrote:Van, Sci-fi Generallisimo


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Postby The Akasha Colony » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:24 pm

Puzikas wrote:
The Akasha Colony wrote:
I'd love to go to one of those giant games, since the fields in Hawaii are all really small, and airsoft doesn't seem to be too popular in this part of the east coast.


Not in New England are you?

Because baring Maine, we are the worst for fun.


Mid-Atlantic region. Notionally you'd think Virginia would be great for it, but the Northern Virginia's like a different state.
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:34 pm

Vancon wrote:
Puzikas wrote:Its actually Swedish, Chechen, Russian, Uralic and OCS.

OCS?

The answer better be Original Commie Spanish.


Old Church Slavonic. so kinda.

The Akasha Colony wrote:Mid-Atlantic region. Notionally you'd think Virginia would be great for it, but the Northern Virginia's like a different state.


Yep, thats where the DC Rejects live. I used to live in Stafford (like 4 months) before moving to Newport News.

Both were..odd.
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Postby Slavtania » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:41 pm

I'm kinda dicking around with a family of grenades to be fired from... something. The current idea was a XM25 alike, upped to a 30mm round. I've been looking at the 40mm family clan goddamn bloodline, for an understanding as to how these things function. The problem I'm having is coming up with a decent muzzle velocity between the XM25's 210 m/s (absurd for a 30mm sized round) and 76 m/s (too slow I feel for a not!XM25).

Definitely more reading in my immediate future, what is sleep!

Anyways, here's a crappy render.

Image

EDIT: I realize now if 76 m/s is too slow for my tastes, using the High/Low Pressure setup from a 40mm is probably not a good idea. :P
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:45 pm

Puzikas wrote:snip



That is a strangely appealing firearm, the writeup is great as well.
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Postby Puzikas » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:50 pm

AGS-30 has a m/v of 185-200m/s.

IIRC 16 gram fill weight propellant compound.

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Puzikas wrote:snip



That is a strangely appealing firearm, the writeup is great as well.


Thanks!
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Wed Oct 21, 2015 10:57 pm

Puzikas wrote:Thanks!


What is Sieuxerr exactly (where would it be on the map so-to-speak), and is it the biproduct of strange colonial interests or something?
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Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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Postby Aqizithiuda » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:00 pm

Puzikas wrote:AGS-30 has a m/v of 185-200m/s.

IIRC 16 gram fill weight propellant compound.



16 grams of propellant or explosive?
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Postby Slavtania » Wed Oct 21, 2015 11:10 pm

Puzikas wrote:AGS-30 has a m/v of 185-200m/s.

IIRC 16 gram fill weight propellant compound.

Eisarn-Ara wrote:

That is a strangely appealing firearm, the writeup is great as well.


Thanks!


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As per above firearm, I love how the whole layout stinks of the 60's. Also hon hon baguette.
Already looking at some pics of the 30x29mm Grenade, it looks like the Russians answer was just a small cartridge (compared to the projectile at least), whereas all the 40mm (American albeit) grenades have that weird pressure chamber thing right in the base.

Thanks for the info!

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